Is it worth $50 to you?

Would you donate $50 to a legalization effort that might actually work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 81.1%
  • No

    Votes: 54 18.9%

  • Total voters
    286
  • Poll closed .

squints68

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at least let us grow hemp i mean what the fuck we are fucking lossing jobs everyday and hemp could bring alot of money in to the states! Ima bout done trying to get the gov to change! Fuck'em
we are right back at where we were before the revolutionary war. Think about really think about it. People shouldnt be afraid of there government dont they work for us! We are going in the same direction that germany did rigth before hitler took power.

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BCtrippin

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at least let us grow hemp i mean what the fuck we are fucking lossing jobs everyday and hemp could bring alot of money in to the states! ima bout done trying to get the gov to change! fuck'em
we are right back at where we were before the revolutionary war. think about really think about it. people shouldnt be afraid of there government dont they work for us! we are going in the same direction that germany did rigth before hitler took power.
Sad but so True.


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kiddcuruption

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think about it, democracy failed in germeny and the german people wanted a strong socialist leader, and now we all think that this new pres is going to come in and fix this all. and we want our gov to come in and fix everything????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
people are blind!
 

BCtrippin

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I'd pay half a million dollars to keep the shit illegal.

Let me guess.... You sell weed for as much as you can charge? :roll:


The ONLY people who don't want it legalized are the scumbags who keep the prices up. (not pointing any fingers, no offense to anyone here)


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mindphuk

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Let me guess.... You sell weed for as much as you can charge? :roll:


The ONLY people who don't want it legalized are the scumbags who keep the prices up. (not pointing any fingers, no offense to anyone here)


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Oh get real. Dealers don't set the prices, it's a commodity like everything else and supply and demand rule. In this case, the illegal nature adds an extra element of risk that translates into some higher costs but overall its like any other marketplace. There's costs, risks and time involved in growing it and getting that to the street level distributor, then they have to get their cut.
In a certain city I know, a grower can get about $5000/lb for stuff that goes on the street for $5-600/oz. A dealer isn't even doubling his money at the ounce price.
 

BCtrippin

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Oh get real. Dealers don't set the prices, it's a commodity like everything else and supply and demand rule. In this case, the illegal nature adds an extra element of risk that translates into some higher costs but overall its like any other marketplace. There's costs, risks and time involved in growing it and getting that to the street level distributor, then they have to get their cut.
In a certain city I know, a grower can get about $5000/lb for stuff that goes on the street for $5-600/oz. A dealer isn't even doubling his money at the ounce price.

I dunno where you live, but in My world the people who sell it set the prices. I agree, supply and demand sets the guidelines, BUT dealers are the only ones selling it for top dollar, and they will be the ones to raise the price when they feel like it.

I grow, and I sell my product for 40% less then what I could be charging people for it. It doesnt cost me any more to make it so why should I charge more?


Prices go up when a dealer is too lazy to run his phone, so he pays some kid to run it for him. I dont know Any dealers doubling their money selling weed. Not if they are buying and selling.

There's no long term dealers. Every dealers goal is to sit at home and do Nothing while someone runs their phone for them. Now instead of 1 person trying to profit from buying and selling, You have 2 people, so prices go up.

If you take the Dealers out of the equation then the prices Drop. Weed becomes legal, dealing isnt very profitable, prices drop. The dealers are the ONLY ones worried about prices dropping if it gets legalized.

I dont know Any growers who would be mad if weed got legalized and prices dropped. It would still cost the same to produce, its just less risk to grow and sell.


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mindphuk

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I dunno where you live, but in My world the people who sell it set the prices. I agree, supply and demand sets the guidelines, BUT dealers are the only ones selling it for top dollar, and they will be the ones to raise the price when they feel like it.

I grow, and I sell my product for 40% less then what I could be charging people for it. It doesnt cost me any more to make it so why should I charge more?


Prices go up when a dealer is too lazy to run his phone, so he pays some kid to run it for him. I dont know Any dealers doubling their money selling weed. Not if they are buying and selling.

There's no long term dealers. Every dealers goal is to sit at home and do Nothing while someone runs their phone for them. Now instead of 1 person trying to profit from buying and selling, You have 2 people, so prices go up.

If you take the Dealers out of the equation then the prices Drop. Weed becomes legal, dealing isnt very profitable, prices drop. The dealers are the ONLY ones worried about prices dropping if it gets legalized.

I dont know Any growers who would be mad if weed got legalized and prices dropped. It would still cost the same to produce, its just less risk to grow and sell.


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You have no clue what you are talking about. Legality has nothing to do with dealers making money or not. Even where it's legal, there are dealers. They might have a license to sell and run a coffee shop or medical dispensary, but they are still dealers. They will take the place of the street dealer, but they will be getting their markup too, essentially doing the same thing you are blaming the dealers of doing now.
There will still be street dealers even if legal. There will always be a demand for cheap shwag (don't ask me why). They will always try to pedal shit for less. Booze is legal but moonshining is still a big time business in some states.

How about any people in California? Can anyone confirm if street dealers are competing with and maybe at times attempting to undercut the dispensaries?
 

BCtrippin

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You have no clue what you are talking about. Legality has nothing to do with dealers making money or not. Even where it's legal, there are dealers. They might have a license to sell and run a coffee shop or medical dispensary, but they are still dealers. They will take the place of the street dealer, but they will be getting their markup too, essentially doing the same thing you are blaming the dealers of doing now.
There will still be street dealers even if legal. There will always be a demand for cheap shwag (don't ask me why). They will always try to pedal shit for less. Booze is legal but moonshining is still a big time business in some states.

How about any people in California? Can anyone confirm if street dealers are competing with and maybe at times attempting to undercut the dispensaries?

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.....I have no idea what im talking about?

Where did I say there would be no more street dealers? Theres always going to be some kid who wants to drive around selling pot.

Legality has EVERYTHING to do with street dealers making money.... If it was legal (100% legal, not just for med users) the street dealers would be forced to drop their prices to compete. :roll:


Theres more then enough weed going around BC, and its more legal here then in California. I dont know ANY dealers selling high quality product for cheaper then a dispensary, thats unheard of. It cant happen because the street dealer has a lot more expenses then the despensary. Even when decriminalized like it is here, the street dealers keep jacking up prices while the dispensaries keep them lower.

Dispensaries (compassion club in BC) sell the highest quality product cheaper then ANY street dealer. It could be the Exact same weed, BC kush. A street dealer will charge $240 an ounce. The dispensary offers the same products at as little as $3 a gram on discount days.


I dunno about you, I would rather buy the same product for $3 from a legal source as opposed to $8-10 a gram off your local steet dealer.


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BCtrippin

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Na,Cause then they'll start farming hemp,which are shitty males plants,which means bye bye sinsimilla.
Sensimilla is not going ANYWHERE. Period.

Theres no way in hell good weed is just going to disappear. When prohibition ended the booze actually got BETTER. If anything, legalizing cannabis will just open up a lot more opportunities for a lot more people. In the end that will mean a lot of new breakthroughs and innovations in the Cannabis industry, which means Better Weed.


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mindphuk

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:wall:

.....I have no idea what im talking about?

Where did I say there would be no more street dealers? Theres always going to be some kid who wants to drive around selling pot.

Legality has EVERYTHING to do with street dealers making money.... If it was legal (100% legal, not just for med users) the street dealers would be forced to drop their prices to compete. :roll:
Maybe you misunderstood me or I misunderstood you. Of course dealers make more with it illegal, but my point was that dealers don't set the prices, they try but there's always another dealer ready to undercut him. There's supply and demand in the illegal trade too. I see it all of the time. The fact that street dealers make less in California just makes my point. Where there is some legal weed, supply goes up, prices drop. BTW, I had no idea you could get an oz. of kush from a dispensary for under $100. That's amazing. I was under the impression that dispensary prices were higher. However, that goes back to the point that the dealer can't set the price, he has to deal with competition too. If he moves farther away from California, he can make more but his risk goes up too. Of course they try to make as much as they can, but there's going to be a limit because someone else will be willing to step in, that's capitalism.
 

IslandGreenGuy

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Where I am, It's easy for us to make $6,500 off a LB. I've seen upwards of $8,500 for some Blue berry. Thats just the cost out here, being thats it's mainly a tourist Location. Freinds and locals get it for much less thought.
 

BCtrippin

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Maybe you misunderstood me or I misunderstood you. Of course dealers make more with it illegal, but my point was that dealers don't set the prices, they try but there's always another dealer ready to undercut him. There's supply and demand in the illegal trade too. I see it all of the time. The fact that street dealers make less in California just makes my point. Where there is some legal weed, supply goes up, prices drop. BTW, I had no idea you could get an oz. of kush from a dispensary for under $100. That's amazing. I was under the impression that dispensary prices were higher. However, that goes back to the point that the dealer can't set the price, he has to deal with competition too. If he moves farther away from California, he can make more but his risk goes up too. Of course they try to make as much as they can, but there's going to be a limit because someone else will be willing to step in, that's capitalism.

I guess things are a bit different up here in Canada. Like I said before, Supply and demand does set the guidelines, but out here the dealers greed still determine the final prices. You would think there would be people trying to sell for cheaper then others, but its just the opposite here. Once one guy is selling quarters for $60 all the other street dealers wanna start charging $60 too because thats more money in their pocket.


The $3 a gram weed is for Med dispensaries. They have minimum twice a week with $3 gram specials, usually right when they get new stuff. But on average the Dispensaries are way cheaper then street dealers in BC. They have to be out here because there is soo many dealers.

Compassion Club out here even got a court order so they can buy high quality herb off of Any source. Any illegal grower can go in and sell his product to them. They have a limit to how many pounds they buy at a time because they like to buy off of as many different sources as possible so they have a larger selection of product.


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mindphuk

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This brings up an interesting thought. Of course it might deserve it's own thread. If weed was legal, where do you think the price will stabilize? I'm talking 100% legal where you are allowed to grow yourself just like tomatoes out back but you will have large commercial growers supplying the retail outlets like liquor stores are now (maybe the Dam's coffee shops would be a good example but less regulated who and where they buy from). Heck, maybe in some areas we can get it at the local farmer's market like every other piece of produce.
 
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