Is it curtains for Harper?

Gquebed

Gquebed

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doingdishes said:
he's dead....you asked for one person who died by not receiving medicine. i gave you one
if MMJ does nothing really medically but help ease things, what's the use? you say it doesn't "cure" things but i know of several people who used it for cancer and it has reduced their tumours or they went away completely and are cancer free.....is that stupidity? YOU might want to fact check before spouting words like "stupidity"
what does RSO do for cancer?
ask Sam Mellace who has treated over 150 with stage 4 cancer and cured all but 4....was that fluke and the cancer went away?
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If any of that was true then we would not be having this discussion and marijuana would already be curing millions of others.

Sadly, that isnt the case. I can tell you that the earth is flat, but that doesnt make it true.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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Gquebed said:
If any of that was true then we would not be having this discussion and marijuana would already be curing millions of others.

Sadly, that isnt the case. I can tell you that the earth is flat, but that doesnt make it true.
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there are many studies that show promise for MMJ and cancer...and Alzheimer's
so what you are saying is that these people are lying??
 
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medcann

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doingdishes said:
he's dead....you asked for one person who died by not receiving medicine. i gave you one
if MMJ does nothing really medically but help ease things, what's the use? you say it doesn't "cure" things but i know of several people who used it for cancer and it has reduced their tumours or they went away completely and are cancer free.....is that stupidity? YOU might want to fact check before spouting words like "stupidity"
what does RSO do for cancer?
ask Sam Mellace who has treated over 150 with stage 4 cancer and cured all but 4....was that fluke and the cancer went away?
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I find those claims by Sam hard to believe.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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And the kids that go from 300 seizures a day to 5 a week are actually the best actors on the planet?
The mj doesnt help them its a coincedence?
The parents of those kids might disagree but they probably just want a few drops of juniors medicine for themselves.

You do realize this is the patients section of the website right?
 
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medcann

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torontoke said:
And the kids that go from 300 seizures a day to 5 a week are actually the best actors on the planet?
The mj doesnt help them its a coincedence?
The parents of those kids might disagree but they probably just want a few drops of juniors medicine for themselves.

You do realize this is the patients section of the website right?
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It's been amazing to see the results coming in for treating kids with seizures.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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torontoke said:
And the kids that go from 300 seizures a day to 5 a week are actually the best actors on the planet?
The mj doesnt help them its a coincedence?
The parents of those kids might disagree but they probably just want a few drops of juniors medicine for themselves.

You do realize this is the patients section of the website right?
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Actually...that was about 300 to 30 40, if it is the girl i am thinking that was on tv.

That is no cure. She is still ill and has siezures everyday, but it is manageable now.

But i havent arvgued against its benefits as such. In fact i have stated several times that there are many benfits and promise for more.

My argument has always been....NOBoDY has died from being denied weed. Plain and simple. That has been my only argument.

How the hell does that get made into me being against medical weed? Fer f sakes...
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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medcann said:
I find those claims by Sam hard to believe.
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i didn't ask for his back up when i spoke to him..he may exaggerate some for sure but when i looked at his lab and saw the stuff and tried the product...it was VERY good.
sure they are his claims but Rick Simpson has made similar claims about his oil. Sam's is a purer form. you take Rick Simpson's method abd filter it so instead of 60 g a pound, you get 20-25. it's either more concentrated or it's just more crap filtered out.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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Gquebed said:
Actually...that was about 300 to 30 40, if it is the girl i am thinking that was on tv.

That is no cure. She is still ill and has siezures everyday, but it is manageable now.

But i havent arvgued against its benefits as such. In fact i have stated several times that there are many benfits and promise for more.

My argument has always been....NOBoDY has died from being denied weed. Plain and simple. That has been my only argument.
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i gave you somebody and you came back with an old post he did when he was alive.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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doingdishes said:
i gave you somebody and you came back with an old post he did when he was alive.
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He still did not die from being denied medical weed. From what i understand he continued to use it all through his illness, legal or not, right to the very end. And ALL he EVER CLAIMED, was that it improved his quality of life while ill. Nothing more. Sobi dont see how he qualifies for what i asked for.

So to say that died from being denied weed is a flat out lie.
 
doingdishes

doingdishes

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Gquebed said:
He still did not die from being denied medical weed. From what i understand he continued to use it all through his illness, legal or not, right to the very end. And ALL he EVER CLAIMED, was that it improved his quality of life while ill. Nothing more. Sobi dont see how he qualifies for what i asked for.

So to say that died from being denied weed is a flat out lie.
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I'm sorry..i didn't know you knew him.
the people i know who knew him said differently but as you said, they must be lying.
i never met him so I don't have an opinion as strong as yours.
sorry to hear you lost a friend
 
spider9

spider9

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Gquebed said:
You are 100% correct. I let other peoples stupidity goad me into futile arguments...

But the weed does help get me through those, as it does with my medical situation.

As for misreading about organ failure. I apologise. However, the weed is still not responsible for saving your life. You refuse the pharmacueticals that wouldve caused your death. Good. So you live.

What has weed got to do with that? If you can live without those pharm drugs then you can live without the weed. The weed just helps you get through the day easier.

Thanks for helping to make my point.
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if it was not for the weed I would have to take their pharma crap and I would be dead that is a simple fact take it or not it is up to you
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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spider9 said:
if it was not for the weed I would have to take their pharma crap and I would be dead that is a simple fact take it or not it is up to you
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If you can live without the pharma crap then you can live without the weed. Fact. To say youll die without it is stupidity.

Unless of course there is something in the weed that your life depends on. And that is where the real question is.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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Gquebed said:
Actually...that was about 300 to 30 40, if it is the girl i am thinking that was on tv.

That is no cure. She is still ill and has siezures everyday, but it is manageable now.

But i havent arvgued against its benefits as such. In fact i have stated several times that there are many benfits and promise for more.

My argument has always been....NOBoDY has died from being denied weed. Plain and simple. That has been my only argument.

How the hell does that get made into me being against medical weed? Fer f sakes...
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Going from 300 seizures to even 50 is a cure or at the very least a real medicine. The kids we are talking about are still kids who knows what there futures hold. Could be a 100% cure only time will tell.
And for the record statistics work both ways if theres no evidence of people not dying by not getting their mmj its because there was no research done the other way. Who knows how many people could be still alive if they were prescribed mj 20 yrs ago instead of a bunch of other pharma. Its nice to sit back and point the finger at the so called evidence but only if your naive enough to think if there were positive studies and reasearch that they would be made public at the cost of destroying big pharma and the war on drugs.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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torontoke said:
Going from 300 seizures to even 50 is a cure or at the very least a real medicine. The kids we are talking about are still kids who knows what there futures hold. Could be a 100% cure only time will tell.
And for the record statistics work both ways if theres no evidence of people not dying by not getting their mmj its because there was no research done the other way. Who knows how many people could be still alive if they were prescribed mj 20 yrs ago instead of a bunch of other pharma. Its nice to sit back and point the finger at the so called evidence but only if your naive enough to think if there were positive studies and reasearch that they would be made public at the cost of destroying big pharma and the war on drugs.
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Even if it were 500 down to 1 a day, that is not a cure. The problem remains. Dont be an idiot.

Again though...i am not arguing against the benfits of mj. I only ever said that people have not died as a result of being denied mj. Thats all.

And you all got your panties in a bunch because somebody spoke a truth you all want to deny for some strange reason.

And while mj has its benefits, it also has a downside. Just like with every pharma drug there is a trade off for the benfefit. And all of you who use weed regularly as medicine, as i do, know what the trade off is.

But very few of you would ever admit it because like every addict you dont want to face the truth...
 
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rnr

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gq guy wtf are you here?
go get a job with harper since you sound as dumb as ambrose and harper do.
your points are mute and bs, if it slows, helps, or cures, like a few cancer patients I know, then who gives a shit about your points?
wtf would want to be on scripts, or nothing? if they can take mj and it helps or works, why disapprove of it? your no patient or a caregiver. now go away,
propagation artist!
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Gquebed said:
Dont try to guess what i believe.

Just because my straight talk is not 100% pro-weed does not mean i am on the "other side."

I happen to believe that weed has a ton of health benefits. Some ofbthose yet to be discovered. But i also believe that weed is not some miracle wonder medicine that is going to save the entire planet and everyone on it.

And that seems to be the thing in this forum....if youre not 100% for weed then you must be 100% in favour of big pharma....
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Whatever dude. I'm actually objective and have looked at the evidence. You clearly have not. You claim they don't understand how cannabis kills cancer cells - wrong. The mechanisms have been observed many times over by many different scientists.

I'm sick of folks like you who think that because something is highly promising we must disavow because it sounds too good to be true - even though it actually is true.

Especially coming from a position of pure ignorance. Which you have demonstrated. Now go on calling us all wack jobs.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Gquebed said:
Your story is just another one like every other on here. Mine included. You are not telling me anything i have not already lived myself.

All i have said is that nobody has died as a result of being denied weed as medicine. If i am wrong then name those people and their ailments...

As for my family doc...he was not entirely sold on the idea that weed would be effective for me, but he considered signing my forms. The reason he refused in the end was not because of a directive from his college of physicians and surgeons that threatend punishment for signing such forms and not because weed is untested as a remedy for anything. He refused simply because if he signed my forms he would be obligated to sign others for legitimate patients and while that wouldnt be a bad thing he said that to get to those lefit patients he would have to sort through a waiting room full of kooks and crackpots just looking to get high.

I couldnt argue wih that. So i went to BC to pay a doctor i had never seen before sign my forms...

My point? Again...hysterical statements such as people are dying from being denied medical marijuana is the kind of thing that paints us all as kooks. Weed is not saving anybody's life. But it is doing a great deal tobease the pain of those who suffer from particular illnesses. Two veryvdifferent things...

So no...i am not wrong.
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You've already been demonstrated completely 100% wrong. Go away. Just because you don't want to admit you're wrong, that doesn't mean we actually want to hear more of your bullshit. Closed minded idiots are the reason the world sucks ass. Congratulations.

Oxycodone doesn't kill boys and girls! Nope nope! :rolleyes:
 
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