Is hydro really that much better than soil?

hellraizer30 said:

I like stinkbud would love to help! Helping is the only reason im still here on riu!

Yes, its fun isn't it, and very rewarding. I enjoy civil discussions with fellow veterans about cultivation of our beloved plant------I definitely don't know everything------but neither does anyone else. I only wish back in the mid 90s there were forums like this------I remember there were no hydro forums at all----anyone remember weed base?

i will not post pics just not going to happen.

OK, fine. If I may ask you? Would you believe 3.6 from a 1K in 60 days flowering ( thats 1.63 grams per watt? think about it. I have seen the amount of space require for 2 per 1 k. Therefore; with our present state of artificial lighting------I don't think its possible even if plant material is surrounding the light/s------not enough space. I hope i'm so wrong!!!!

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good day sir,

A~~

qpwoeirutyalskdjfhgzmxncb said:

I mostly run the same strains in both soil and hydro and they don't taste any different. I always flush both well.

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If you use a volcano as most of my bros do you can tell

There's soil growing from bottled nutes, and then there's super soil true living organic growing... I've read hydro guys posts about how they've never had a plant as healthy running hydro as they did in organic living super soil. It's reusable and growing in it makes it better, it will actually remember it had marijuana in it before and grow plants better after reuse. I can only assume bottled chem nutes vs compost teas will each have a unique alteration to the flavor of the strain.

I personally have done both and Id say the last 10 years I have stuck with hydro/aero with only mom plants in soil. I find its weeks faster from start to finish. Indoors with similar lighting hydro way out does yield. I find hydro much much easier to deal with as its less work easier to correct issues and less to get rid of after grows. To me hydro tastes better then soil not that soil tastes bad but I prefer hydro buds. I also find its easier to fine tune a strain grow in hydro grows.

I loved rDWC, it was alot of fun. But coco is easier for me for my needs.

The very first and only time I grew indoor was 15 years ago. The girls turned hermaphrodite...??....Any-who, for some reason still today, that taste and stone is fresh in my mind like my first kiss................

After 15 years of growing outdoor (NZ has some brilliant micro climates within 20mins travel by car), I have decided to try indoor again. Half way set up with ebb and flow, perpetual cycle in 1m2 sq tent, cloning/mother tent still working on. Hope I can re-capture that smoke, without the nuts this time!

I thought Hermi bud was harsh?

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Nope,

unless you leave the beans in there......LOL....

I just want to make a couple comments here. In general, hydro growth rates are considerably higher than soil, provided you have the rest of the environment dialed in. Light, co2, RH, air movement, and temp.

My other comment is to you guys talking about grams per watt. You could have 2 crops with the same yield under the same wattage, and one vegged for 2 weeks, the other no veg time at all. Grams per kilowatt hour is the real measurement of efficiency. I apologize if that was already mentioned and I missed it.

Illegal Wonder said:

There's soil growing from bottled nutes, and then there's super soil true living organic growing... I've read hydro guys posts about how they've never had a plant as healthy running hydro as they did in organic living super soil. It's reusable and growing in it makes it better, it will actually remember it had marijuana in it before and grow plants better after reuse. I can only assume bottled chem nutes vs compost teas will each have a unique alteration to the flavor of the strain.

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That's because what it takes to create a living Rhyzosphere in a living soil. Not easily done and not easily learned. Farmers know this, but the average Joe does not. Much easier to do Hydro at home than create a living soil. Living soil requires Myko living and symbiotic with all of the soil(compost on steroids) and is an art.

twistedwords said:

That's because what it takes to create a living Rhyzosphere in a living soil. Not easily done and not easily learned. Farmers know this, but the average Joe does not. Much easier to do Hydro at home than create a living soil. Living soil requires Myko living and symbiotic with all of the soil(compost on steroids) and is an art.

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https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i.html Come on over

Illegal Wonder said:

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i.html Come on over

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That's not living soil pal....

Here is living soil. http://www.ext.colostate.edu/mg/gardennotes/212.html

you skimmed the first post congrats... There's been much discussion in that thread.

That's a good link to some college textbook info. Where's the link to actual application? The first thing that hit home was the mentioning of organic mater (organic teas) to promote life in the soil, so how's that not living soil?

Hightimes just did a entire article about why hydro is better then soil.

Get the February 2014 issue.

Of course they did ...........they get more money advertising for these companies selling hydroponic equipment and the array of salts that go with them.If they fully promoted traditional growing methods they would go bankrupt.

Hightimes is a joke.

I have decided to go with 100% perlite 3 gallon hempy buckets. I am using General Hydroponics nutrients and still feeding my plants (G13 Pineapple Express) everyday after two weeks. Does anybody know how long it will be until the roots reach the bottom and I can start feeding every three days or so? The plants look pretty healthy and I like not having to mess with soil. I'll upload pictures later if there is any interest.

twistedwords said:

That's not living soil pal....

Here is living soil. http://www.ext.colostate.edu/mg/gardennotes/212.html

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Nope, didn't think you'd have anything to back up what you say... 4 years and no rep says quite a bit on a forum like this.

Illegal Wonder said:

you skimmed the first post congrats... There's been much discussion in that thread.

That's a good link to some college textbook info. Where's the link to actual application? The first thing that hit home was the mentioning of organic mater (organic teas) to promote life in the soil, so how's that not living soil?

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Now you've stumped him lol. It's an art ..... WTF!!!! Ya it's almost impossible to create living soil from any of the 10,000 recipes out there. And yes tea is a great addition to a living soil grow. Just have a search of this guys threads and you'll understand

Illegal Wonder said:

There's soil growing from bottled nutes, and then there's super soil true living organic growing... I've read hydro guys posts about how they've never had a plant as healthy running hydro as they did in organic living super soil. It's reusable and growing in it makes it better, it will actually remember it had marijuana in it before and grow plants better after reuse. I can only assume bottled chem nutes vs compost teas will each have a unique alteration to the flavor of the strain.

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I just have to ask. How does soil remember? That sounds pretty mystical

Budley Doright said:

I just have to ask. How does soil remember? That sounds pretty mystical

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Magical soil! To each his or her own. I guess I ditched soil cause its dirty, and when it gets wet it turns to mud. I try to keep as clean of a grow as I can, and that sure is hard to do when you enter dirt into the equation. Just my opinion though.