Is Gay Marriage Really That Big Deal?

OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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UncleBuck said:
you're barely literate you fucking retard.

there's a reason why not even your bigoted right wing colleagues come to your defense, you are an embarrassment to them and yourself.
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They wont make the cut either, they don`t exist. (lone wolf) and, I`ll still put up a better argument than you in favor of the gay.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
So what? Why is procreation the basis for your standard of marriage?

"Blacks are different than me. Not equal."

"Women are different than me. Not equal."

"Gays are different than me. Not equal."

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Why are you against homosexual couples receiving the same benefits heterosexual couples receive upon entering into marriage? http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/marriage-rights-benefits-30190.html
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1, It sets the benefit package.

2, you got the drift.

3, It creates and incentive to continue the species, you and buck will not accomplish that without revisiting Sodom and Gomorrah. Plus, It opens doors for abuse and fraud but not the cave.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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OddBall1st said:
It creates and incentive to continue the species
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straight people will procreate anyway, so why don't we take marriage benefits away from them and spend them on helping gays have children instead?

we'd save a ton of money and advance medical science so that we could always continue the species, no matter what.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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UncleBuck said:
400+ pounds?

massive facial deformity?

blind and deaf?



no you won't. your posts here and on the drumming website peg you as old enough to be impotent, and your wife as post-menopausal.

since you two old farts can't procreate anymore, you will now lose all your marriage benefits.

sound good, gramps?
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I can only wish I were shoot`n blanks......
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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UncleBuck said:
straight people will procreate anyway, so why don't we take marriage benefits away from them and spend them on helping gays have children instead?

we'd save a ton of money and advance medical science so that we could always continue the species, no matter what.
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That`s looking like the solution, but those making the change fear the Gay will be angry because they will have to continue on their own afterall and not vote Democrat and those effected will not welcome the Gay making two fronts and an interesting war,...I`m game.......
 
Skuxx

Skuxx

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UncleBuck said:
actually, gay people have been having their own biological kids for some time now.

for example, two gay men would have one be the sperm donor and the egg would come from the close blood relative. DNA from both parents is passed onto the child, just like any heterosexual relation.

try to be less retarded. your best bet is to simply remain silent, or kill yourself.
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It's also possible for both males to be sperm donors, and have fraternal twins. That way no one is left out.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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OddBall1st said:
1, It sets the benefit package.

2, you got the drift.

3, It creates and incentive to continue the species, you and buck will not accomplish that without revisiting Sodom and Gomorrah. Plus, It opens doors for abuse and fraud but not the cave.
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Whatever motivations you have to believe this nonsense it's clear they're not founded in logic or reason. You think equal rights for LGBT's are a ploy from the democratic party to draw more votes...

Nuff said..

Have a good night
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
Whatever motivations you have to believe this nonsense it's clear they're not founded in logic or reason. You think equal rights for LGBT's are a ploy from the democratic party to draw more votes...

Nuff said..

Have a good night
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I mentioned, take away the privileges and the Gay have no fight, I think government reaction was, but not what motivates the gay. It`s monetary for the Gay. It`s bullshit to me.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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OddBall1st said:
I mentioned, take away the privileges and the Gay have no fight, I think government reaction was, but not what motivates the gay. It`s monetary for the Gay. It`s bullshit to me.
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Why shouldn't homosexual married couples enjoy the exact same benefits as heterosexual married couples?
Tax Benefits

Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

Estate Planning Benefits

Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

Government Benefits

Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
Receiving public assistance benefits.

Employment Benefits

Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

Medical Benefits

Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

Death Benefits

Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
Making burial or other final arrangements.

Family Benefits

Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
Applying for joint foster care rights.
Receiving equitable division of property if you divorce.
Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

Housing Benefits

Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

Consumer Benefits

Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.

Other Legal Benefits and Protections

Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Gay people should fight for the right to be free FROM government intervention in their personal lives.

Therefore seeking governments permission to be married, becomes oxymoronic.

Why does government think it it can define what marriage is and confer or withhold that "privilege" , its' none of their fucking business to intervene in anyones personal relationships, gay, straight or all of the above.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Rob Roy said:
Gay people should fight for the right to be free FROM government intervention in their personal lives.

Therefore seeking governments permission to be married, becomes oxymoronic.

Why does government think it it can define what marriage is and confer or withhold that "privilege" , its' none of their fucking business to intervene in anyones personal relationships, gay, straight or all of the above.
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Nothing to do with that, it`s about the benefits the others were getting. The Gay are infringing on them. You know, the Gov. handout shit. They`re your equal.....
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Gay people should fight for the right to be free FROM government intervention in their personal lives.

Therefore seeking governments permission to be married, becomes oxymoronic.

Why does government think it it can define what marriage is and confer or withhold that "privilege" , its' none of their fucking business to intervene in anyones personal relationships, gay, straight or all of the above.
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i notice that you have done nothing to personally lead the charge to get government out of marriage. we all know that this is because you don't mind enjoying the benefits that come with it, just like any freeloading mooch of a bigot.

in your mind, it's the gays that need to "fight for the right to be free from government" in this case.

because we all know how easy it should be for a minority of less than 5% of the population to get congress to rewrite the entire tax code for all people, both gay and straight.

basically, what your statement comes down to is that you're OK with getting the benefits of marriage, you're OK with gays not getting those same benefits, and you feel it is their job to make everyone equal by getting rid of benefits for everyone, an impossible task.

anyone with two brain cells to rub together can read the bigotry and acceptability of unequal status in your post you piece of shit.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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I`m more than OK with Gays not receiving marriage benefits from the Government. That`s the way it has been and should be.

But Democrats at work for you and in need of votes take the decision processes to the wrong court they control to seek their expected results. Fuck the crying Gay and their stealing to get accepted. Looking to fit in means you never did.

They lost twice to the people and still think they fucking matter or have a part in family. They`re as fake as you can get. People who`s highest priority is what they do with their dick or cunt, don`t belong in society, they are a fucking cancer to our future.

More names to follow from the Bucky boy......
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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"I`m more than OK with Blacks not receiving marriage benefits from the Government. That`s the way it has been and should be.

But Democrats at work for you and in need of votes take the decision processes to the wrong court they control to seek their expected results. Fuck the crying black and their stealing to get accepted. Looking to fit in means you never did."


Straight up tard
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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OddBall1st said:
I`m more than OK with Gays not receiving marriage benefits from the Government. That`s the way it has been and should be.

But Democrats at work for you and in need of votes take the decision processes to the wrong court they control to seek their expected results. Fuck the crying Gay and their stealing to get accepted. Looking to fit in means you never did.

They lost twice to the people and still think they fucking matter or have a part in family. They`re as fake as you can get. People who`s highest priority is what they do with their dick or cunt, don`t belong in society, they are a fucking cancer to our future.

More names to follow from the Bucky boy......
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Your preacher called, he wants to rape your little boys again.

But you should totally listen to the (gay) pedophile about how gay people are abhorrent...
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
"I`m more than OK with Blacks not receiving marriage benefits from the Government. That`s the way it has been and should be.

But Democrats at work for you and in need of votes take the decision processes to the wrong court they control to seek their expected results. Fuck the crying black and their stealing to get accepted. Looking to fit in means you never did."


Straight up tard
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That`s not the same and you call me a tard..... typical off topic on the wrong page response.

Blacks did not decide to be Black and therefore do not expect to be corrected. Being Gay is a behavior dude,...like it or not, it cannot be compared to race.

But you did it. Straight up guy......You`re reaching in other topics to stay in this one......
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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OddBall1st said:
That`s not the same and you call me a tard..... typical off topic on the wrong page response.

Blacks did not decide to be Black and therefore do not expect to be corrected. Being Gay is a behavior dude,...like it or not, it cannot be compared to race.

But you did it. Straight up guy......You`re reaching in other topics to stay in this one......
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Totally isn't a genetic thing, some guys just decide "Hey, know what'd make my life easier? Getting abused by retarded people"
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Harrekin said:
Totally isn't a genetic thing, some guys just decide "Hey, know what'd make my life easier? Getting abused by retarded people"
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No. They expect to be accepted but can`t handle rejection. The biggest lie is that most people accept openly Gay activity. Nobody want to be "that one"....
 
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