Is Cheesequake finikey to start?

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mikeharold

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Greetings nerds! I have a question about my cheesequakes. I started 3 seeds a while back in coco and they didn't do well and wound up dying off on me. I decided a few days ago to start the 2 remaining seeds. I put them in rapid rooters and a humidity dome just as described by Sub and they popped in a matter of a few days. Only a couple of days later they have gone funky on me once again :-?. The baby leaves have turned brown and the tips have begun to turn black, WTF? Anyone else have issues starting their CQ's too? Kind of sucks because the whole 5 pack wound up doing the exact same thing with 2 different techniques. Am I doing something wrong? It's worked with all my other seeds I've sprouted previously. Bad batch of seeds maybe? I would love to hear your thoughts and input.

Setup is a rubbermaid box with cfl's running about 72-80 deg. Thanks for looking.
 

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Well the first go was with coco just for seedling stage and they did this soon as they broke ground. This time I popped em just like you say you do and it's happening again at only a few days old. Not gonna mess with coco, going roots and super soil. I put em in a mix of Humbolt earth soil which isn't as strong as Roots with Roots mixed in in the lower half of the 1 gal. container to give them some time to develop more before they hit the Roots. I have some several years old mystery seeds that I have popped at the same time the same way and they are doing fine. 0 for 5 just kind of sucks...
 
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I tend to agree maybe a better plan would be to actually contact us through the website support I hear were pretty good about stuff like that :)
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mikeharold

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I didn't mean to come off as negative towards you or your genetics, not one of the hater trolls that have been stalking this section, was just curious on thoughts. I've been following you for years and have grown several strains before. No problems previously. Hadn't thought about hitting you up through the website, I know your support is top notch! Thanks.
 
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.......the pics show wee babies in what looks like one gal pots, possibly over watered....try going rapid rooter into a 1/2 gal. or quart pot of an empty base soil medium.....with the inconsistancies of roots as of late, i wouldn't trust it with newborns........good luck bro.
 
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I just transplanted them last night to get them into soil because they were looking bad. I usually will germ and then go staright into 1gal containers without issues. In the past I had done the solo cup thing then into 1gal and finally my finishing container. This is what they started doing in the rapid rooters before any soil. I also mixed the Roots to help mellow it out. I wasn't prepared to transplant yet so I was winging it. We'll see how they react soon. Thanks for the thoughts, always taking in new info. Have LOTS still to learn.
 
nugbuckets

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mikeharold said:
I just transplanted them last night to get them into soil because they were looking bad. I usually will germ and then go staright into 1gal containers without issues. In the past I had done the solo cup thing then into 1gal and finally my finishing container. This is what they started doing in the rapid rooters before any soil. I also mixed the Roots to help mellow it out. I wasn't prepared to transplant yet so I was winging it. We'll see how they react soon. Thanks for the thoughts, always taking in new info. Have LOTS still to learn.
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if i use roots for babies, i will cut it with two parts totally empty base, to one part roots.....i will fill up quarts with this, hollow out a space for the rr, plant dry seed, water the whole thing, and cover with dome.....really good germ rates....be well.
 
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Ahhh, good info, thanks. How long do you let them go in the RR's before you plant into the quarts? I know that method works for you 'cause I've been watching your other threads and give much respect to your style! Would rep ya, but I need to spread the love a little more apparently, thanks.
 
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mikeharold said:
Ahhh, good info, thanks. How long do you let them go in the RR's before you plant into the quarts? I know that method works for you 'cause I've been watching your other threads and give much respect to your style! Would rep ya, but I need to spread the love a little more apparently, thanks.
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i put the rr in the quart of soil, then plant the seed.....that way it is all set and i don't have to fuck with the little fragile baby for a few weeks while she just develops right through the rooter into the soil, then let her get big enough to transplant into a 2 gal......i use rr's instead of just planting directly into the soil, because they have a great air/moisture factor going......and beans love em........also, say the room gets chilly, and you want to use a heat mat, the bean has a quart of soil between it and the mat acting as an insulator protecting it from getting too warm.
 
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mikeharold

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Hmmm, intersting take on things. Haven't heard it done that way, but I like it and it makes lots of sense. I think I will be adopting that method from here on out! Thanks once again for the insight, that's what I love about this place. Happy harvests and big bowls to you!
 
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+1 for nugs technique. I use rockwool to start seeds but rapid rooters are even better. Cheesquake beans performed normally for me, 100% female ratio too!

Seedlings don't need humidity domes (neither do clones for that matter) excess humidity causes more harm than good especially without moving air. Good luck!
 
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SupraSPL said:
+1 for nugs technique. I use rockwool to start seeds but rapid rooters are even better. Cheesquake beans performed normally for me, 100% female ratio too!

Seedlings don't need humidity domes (neither do clones for that matter) excess humidity causes more harm than good especially without moving air. Good luck!
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...right.....i dome the seed set-up until they sprout, then it comes off....
 
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.......here is a pic of my latest tga project.......20 beans 20 sprouts, four different 5 packs.......rapid rooters set in quarts of empty soil, with a splash of castings mixed in.....

.....all "older" strains.....beans from the attitude........qt, vortex, flav, ace.....all up within 12 hours from each other, no deformities....
 
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First time grower here and I've had only a little issue in the first few weeks. I will admit it was just me figuring out what the plants could handle. Its all sorted out now and they are doing lovely. Seems to me she kinda just likes to be left to do her own thing. By comparison I have 1 cotton candy that I've thrown everything at and it just keeps on goin.

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All but the front right in 7gal are cheesequake the front right is a cotton candy, the 1gal are all hashplant haze. Ignore the yellow traps potatoes and residue on leaves as I've been gettin rid of some fungus gnats.
 
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mikeharold said:
Greetings nerds! I have a question about my cheesequakes. I started 3 seeds a while back in coco and they didn't do well and wound up dying off on me. I decided a few days ago to start the 2 remaining seeds. I put them in rapid rooters and a humidity dome just as described by Sub and they popped in a matter of a few days. Only a couple of days later they have gone funky on me once again :-?. The baby leaves have turned brown and the tips have begun to turn black, WTF? Anyone else have issues starting their CQ's too? Kind of sucks because the whole 5 pack wound up doing the exact same thing with 2 different techniques. Am I doing something wrong? It's worked with all my other seeds I've sprouted previously. Bad batch of seeds maybe? I would love to hear your thoughts and input.

Setup is a rubbermaid box with cfl's running about 72-80 deg. Thanks for looking.
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I started to have problems starting seeds then i started to soak what ever im starting them in with PH'd water now it's all good
 
st0wandgrow

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I just sprouted 5 Cheesequake as well. I have always used rockwool cubes in a humidity dome. I soak the rockwool over night in some conditioning solution before placing the seeds in the cubes. Usually around 48 hours later they sprout, then come out of the dome and they stay under some fluorescent lights for a week or so before going in to soil (Happy Frog for seedlings).

I have germinated hundreds of seeds and never had one die on me .... until Cheesequake. Only 1 died, and several weeks later the remaining 4 look beautiful and healthy so it would lead me to believe that perhaps I messed up somewhere.

Either way, I'm very excited to flower these out! I also sprouted 5 Jillybean a few weeks prior to that, and all 5 came out very healthy looking and vigorous!
 
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