Is a node required for clones?

I've done plenty of seed grows, but this is my first time cloning. Using rapid rooters and clonex gel, in tray with humidity dome.

Question: Does there have to be a cut node inside the rapid rooter? Or can the stem simply have a 45 degree cut and a little surface scraping?

No, both methods will work.

budrock61 said:

I've done plenty of seed grows, but this is my first time cloning. Using rapid rooters and clonex gel, in tray with humidity dome.

Question: Does there have to be a cut node inside the rapid rooter? Or can the stem simply have a 45 degree cut and a little surface scraping?

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45 at a node upped my cloning rate and ill never go back to not cutting there.

I cut wherever I want, as long as the stem isn't woody, rarely have one fail to root.

I use rapid rooters and clonex gel as well. I always make the 45 degree cut about a quarter inch under a node and ive had about 90 percent success rate.

A node is not necessary.
Scraping is counter productive to cloning IMHO.
I would also suggest using a powder hormone over clones gel.
GL

I've been wondering the official consensus on this. I always try to have a node but sometimes it's hard so good to know it's not necessary

Renfro said:

I cut wherever I want, as long as the stem isn't woody, rarely have one fail to root.

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Renfro, do you scrape at all, or just 45 cut?

budrock61 said:

Renfro, do you scrape at all, or just 45 cut?

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I scrape. I have noted the roots seem to start there first.

Thanks for all the replies! And while I got ya'll here, what's your preferred lighting for clones?

No node required but desirable.

budrock61 said:

Thanks for all the replies! And while I got ya'll here, what's your preferred lighting for clones?

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Ambient for the first week and then T5's is how I roll. They don't need much light at all until they're rooted.

budrock61 said:

Thanks for all the replies! And while I got ya'll here, what's your preferred lighting for clones?

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I put my fresh clones under one T5 flouro light. Its 6400K at 25 watts, and i do 24 hours of light until rooted. Normally have the light about 20 inches above the clones. With my experience you dont really need a bunch of light.

Its good to see so many using rapid rooters. Easy and cheap.

could someone tell me if they feed nutrients when they have a couple roots pop out in the rapid rooter?
i find when i transplanted rooted ones to rockwool 5.5-6.3ph and 200-380ppm that it stalls and doesn't grow or take up anything, should i be feeding much less until i see the cuttings going almost yellow at the top?

Renfro said:

I scrape. I have noted the roots seem to start there first.

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scrape is good

arcalion said:

could someone tell me if they feed nutrients when they have a couple roots pop out in the rapid rooter?
i find when i transplanted rooted ones to rockwool 5.5-6.3ph and 200-380ppm that it stalls and doesn't grow or take up anything, should i be feeding much less until i see the cuttings going almost yellow at the top?

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I feed my clones quarter strength, i feed with Clonex clone and seedling nutrient. I do that for about 2 weeks after roots show then into soil where i feed half strength with veg+bloom.

Mr. Cheetah said:

scrape is good

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I really think thats why the node is also good, more "cut" tissue where the node is and has been cut off.

arcalion said:

could someone tell me if they feed nutrients when they have a couple roots pop out in the rapid rooter?
i find when i transplanted rooted ones to rockwool 5.5-6.3ph and 200-380ppm that it stalls and doesn't grow or take up anything, should i be feeding much less until i see the cuttings going almost yellow at the top?

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I wait until I have roots popping out of the rooter, then I feed them at full strength, not complicated. Use a pH of about 5.8 since they are hydro at this point. I know a lot of ppl say not to do that but it has always worked just fine for me. Make sure you give them more light after you do this. They need it once they have roots.