Is 85 degrees dangerous in flowering?

hydroMD

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Will you post a pic of the back side of your trellis?!? Your set up is sweet bro. I have heard about states whos laws are by sq. Ft. rather than plant numbers going to this style. Pretty dope brotha. I couldnt see it very well from your first pics. Dope.

Could you attack a box fan at the end of each mover to create some wind current? Might help.

Also perhaps seperating the two bulbs by a foot or so would help diatribute heat evenly.

I havent ever implemented light movers so I couldnt tell you for certain what the limits are. I error on the side of caution until i have a plant dialed in though.. having your light 12" too far away is going to give you better results than being 6" too close
 

headbandrocker

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I will post some pics behind the canopy for you when lights go on tomorow king,One thing id like to dial in is medium in the 18 gal tubs. The promix i used was not even 50% filled with roots and i never got runoff once:/ I am interested in coco but seems like it would need a shit ton of water to feed. I have been thinking of how to do drip with a rack system like this: maybe have a empty rack with one res on each shelf?
 

hydroMD

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I will post some pics behind the canopy for you when lights go on tomorow king,One thing id like to dial in is medium in the 18 gal tubs. The promix i used was not even 50% filled with roots and i never got runoff once:/ I am interested in coco but seems like it would need a shit ton of water to feed. I have been thinking of how to do drip with a rack system like this: maybe have a empty rack with one res on each shelf?
It would be pretty sweet to use hydroton. Link all your tubs. Run the bottom row into a reservoir that has a pump feeding back i to the top row of tubs and just use a waterfall in current nft ;)

(Hope that made sense)


Id like to do a hydro version of this using vinyl posts and net pots. No medium.
 

headbandrocker

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Ive been on a quest to get plants like I had in hydroton! This last year i spent with promix and havent come close ...I once did a constant drip with hydroton and had the healthiest plant ive ever had,the thing had bark
.Is your idea a constant drip or timed drip? I like it tell me more!
However The bottom rack would be hard to fit anything under in this setup.
I have been playing with the hempy cup idea for all my veg needs this month and am quite impressed so far.This made me wonder if it would be possible in the rack reality..I have a drain hole in each tub so unless i could do it through that fitting i would need new tubs....Not sure if drip or hempy would require more water,but I do have a 70,and 2x100 gal res i could use...My ro is just very slow lol
This room could be bannanas in hydroton!!
*There are 2 wall fans and 3 floor fans and 2 x 8"in/out
 

JointOperation

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85 isn't horrible.. but if u can drop it to 80.. ud be fine.. for sure.. but ive had some plants love it up at 83.. and some hate it..

the only thing is.. by the end of flower if u keep temps high .. theres a chance for mold.. so if temps are higher.. just toss a few extra wall fans or osc fans to get that rooms air moving more if ur worried
 

purplehays1

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i have never been able to run a bare bulb, as much fun as bare backing is :). I always find the heat to distance ratio is just not good enough, the glass blocks a lot more heat then light, it is better to have the glass and get the light 1/2 the distance away IMHO.
 

hydroMD

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Ive been on a quest to get plants like I had in hydroton! This last year i spent with promix and havent come close ...I once did a constant drip with hydroton and had the healthiest plant ive ever had,the thing had bark
.Is your idea a constant drip or timed drip? I like it tell me more!
However The bottom rack would be hard to fit anything under in this setup.
I have been playing with the hempy cup idea for all my veg needs this month and am quite impressed so far.This made me wonder if it would be possible in the rack reality..I have a drain hole in each tub so unless i could do it through that fitting i would need new tubs....Not sure if drip or hempy would require more water,but I do have a 70,and 2x100 gal res i could use...My ro is just very slow lol
This room could be bannanas in hydroton!!
*There are 2 wall fans and 3 floor fans and 2 x 8"in/out

First off!!! Low 80's arent bad, butI highly recomend dropping things to 74-78f your last week!! Your terpen profile should be much more established :)

On to your badass setup,


I would just run a constant flow.

How far off the ground is the bottom of your tray?

You could use a 18 gallon tub with a float valve in it below the drain on your bottom row of trays. Run a line from the float valve to a big 30gallon tub with air stones above it.. As the water is pumped from the small tub below to your system, the float valve will keep the water level below your bottom trays creating good circulatiin. When your olants drink enough that the water level goes down in your control bucket, you top off will fill it back up until the float valve is back to the proper level. You would only need a tiny pump, so getting too much water in your system from your big res. up top shouldnt be a problem.

Could actually make for a really simple grow! And most of your water is always in your reservoirs making ph changes quick and painless!!
 

hydroMD

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I would actually recomend using vinyl posts with net pots in them. Run them with a real slight grade zigzagging down. If you wanted to get really boss, install quick releases on each row so you can add and remove levels at will and have a perperual vert setup!

OH MY GOODNESS!!!
 

headbandrocker

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i may be able to reach that temp by turning off 3 lights and only running 3,do you think that would that work?
You talking about the HD white fence post? How far would net pot be from bottom of post where water runs? Would i need to rootprune to maintain flow? Do you know if the posts are 6ft? I might be willing to try it on a rack or 2 if i can put it together cheaply,ive never done nft ,you could even veg the posts in a table in another room for a week then just move em to the ziggyrackythingy every week,baddass but how would you feed if rows are different ages ? 1000ppm or?
 

headbandrocker

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In a last ditch effort to controll heat I am goin tO flip my exaust into an intake and see if this helps at all... Fingers crossed
 

hydroMD

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i may be able to reach that temp by turning off 3 lights and only running 3,do you think that would that work?
You talking about the HD white fence post? How far would net pot be from bottom of post where water runs? Would i need to rootprune to maintain flow? Do you know if the posts are 6ft? I might be willing to try it on a rack or 2 if i can put it together cheaply,ive never done nft ,you could even veg the posts in a table in another room for a week then just move em to the ziggyrackythingy every week,baddass but how would you feed if rows are different ages ? 1000ppm or?
I run about 800ppm on average, but some strains like more.

I dont think the root mass will stop the flow, perhaps slow things a little, but water should flow through alright.

Wondering how to perperuate things since your trellace is fixed. If you coukd attach a trellace to the row itself so each row was completely independant? then just make some sort of rack you can easily switch levels with one person on each end. Have 3 rows and harvest one every 3 weeks or so :)

Coco would work great. Id suggest a drip system to water rather than a flood/drain with it though.
 

purplehays1

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Even though lights are moving on a lightrail ? The bulb doesn't spend much time in front of the plants ...
Hmm so I will try 14" my light rail moves 5+ ft are you sure they will get enough light?
As with all things in cultivation it seems, it is a delicate balance between maximizing light and minimizing heat stress. i think 14" from a 600w is perfect, but i have honestly never used a 600w just 1000w's and this little 400w ive been running for only a few weeks. I figure a 600w would be a middle between the two and i used to run my 1000's at about 18" (with glass). And when i say 14" i mean from the general top of the canopy, not the tallest nug (in your case closest nug).
 
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