Iran Update...

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PadawanBater

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As usual, you are wrong wrong wrong. It is Hamas & Iran who inflicts the casualties upon the Palestinians, not the Israelis.

As usual, ass backwards.... :lol:


If you let go of your hatred, you may just learn something.


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So the thousand plus dead Palestinians aren't because of the Israeli's now huh?

What will you say next, Australia was responsible for the holocaust?!

:lol:

All you are is a big fuckin' joke CrackerJax...

Nobody can be this stupid.

With this exact same logic, according to you it's America's fault we've suffered 4,000 + dead American soldiers. How do you feel about that?
 

CrackerJax

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So the thousand plus dead Palestinians aren't because of the Israeli's now huh?

What will you say next, Australia was responsible for the holocaust?!

:lol:

All you are is a big fuckin' joke CrackerJax...

Nobody can be this stupid.

With this exact same logic, according to you it's America's fault we've suffered 4,000 + dead American soldiers. How do you feel about that?
it is hamas which hides amongst civilians, women and children (so brave).

It is Hamas which does not let the Palestinians use the tunnels during attacks (they need a high body count for you guys, sleep well)

It is Hamas who steals the very aid sent in by the UN to the Palestinains.

Yes, It is Hamas which is responsible for the massacres. Hamas has acknowledged that citizenry death (not their own of course) is the way to get the money flowing in from simps like you guys.

You're all being played. I am hardly surprised. You let your prejudices cloud your objectivity.

Some folks just can't see past the shallow end of the pool.


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PadawanBater

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it is hamas which hides amongst civilians, women and children (so brave).

It is Hamas which does not let the Palestinians use the tunnels during attacks (they need a high body count for you guys, sleep well)

It is Hamas who steals the very aid sent in by the UN to the Palestinains.

Yes, It is Hamas which is responsible for the massacres. Hamas has acknowledged that citizenry death (not their own of course) is the way to get the money flowing in from simps like you guys.

You're all being played. I am hardly surprised. You let your prejudices cloud your objectivity.

Some folks just can't see past the shallow end of the pool.


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Dude, you gotta understand it has become really frustrating trying to explain this stuff to you. I don't know why you think this stuff, like why you would trust the US government 100%. You gotta look at history man, the people in charge of governments are the people willing to do anything to retain power. Don't you ever notice it's always the same types of people who get into these positions, or they all know eachother somehow, or they went to school together, or theyr'e 12th cousins, or it's a father and son... Those people want to stay at the top, they control everything you hear, everything you see, everything you get educated on in the public school system, everything. If you don't look outward at unbiased information you'll only ever get what the American politicians who indirectly control the media want you to get, that's why keeping as much shit uncensored is so important. That's why I asked how old you were earlier, if you're over 30, 35, chances are you aren't all that familiar with what the internet has to offer (generally speaking, as in the people I know) and you don't take advantage of what's there. I don't understand how you can never seem to view the situation from the 'enemies' perspective. You realize that as much motivation you may have for whatever situation you decided to pick up a gun and go kill massive amounts of people over, they have the same, if not more because we have it so good in America and they've been struggling in a 3rd world country simply trying to survive their entire life, and it would probably be in their country, so they would be fighting for their 'homeland' (whatever the fuck that means)... Take this shit into consideration man, don't be advocating UNNECCESSARY, meaning CAN BE SOLVED BY ANOTHER MEANS, and if it can be solved by ANY OTHER means than by the KILLING OF MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, then don't you think we oughta give that a try first? I mean, doesn't that make more sense, why should fighting the shit out always be the first resort? In every single war in history, more civilians have died than military personel, innocent people that had nothing to do with their governments actions, killed, whiped off the planet because of somebody sitting in an office's greed for power or money. And people like you backing them up because your god says so, or you think it's morally justified because they're the terorrists, because your government says they are.

Now it's time for school. Pay attention CrackerJax.

Hamas hides amongst civilians? True, nobody has ever denied this, Hamas commits terrible shit that indirectly winds up killing innocent civilians, but four things about that;

1st. Hamas hides in homes with civilians because the territory they occupy IS COMPLETELY SATURATED WITH CIVILIANS

2nd. One could argue they don't have any other option, there is no zone within their territory that is meant for Hamas fighters and regular civilians

3rd. Hamas hides in civilian houses, ok, that doesn't directly kill anyone, it's Israel's use of 'strategic air strikes' that have caused the most casualties in this conflict, and it's always the damn air strikes, Israel chooses to drop bombs on civilians in order to hopefully kill Hamas members too, when like I said, they pretty much don't have a choice where they hide, easily one of the most questionable tactics, aka TERRORISM, used by Israel. And last but not least

4th.

http://maskofanarchy.blogspot.com/2009/01/israel-using-human-shields.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/02/israel1

(so brave indeed, huh? But I guess when Israel does it "NO NO, Hey! That's a tactic! Hamas is dirty sub-human terrorist scum, they deserve it anyway, and worse!")

Cite sources for your second bullshit statement.

It's Israel bombing the UN and Red Cross;

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/08/israel.gaza/index.html

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24890752-2703,00.html

http://www.military.com/news/article/israeli-strike-near-un-school-kills-30.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/16/world/middleeast/16mideast.html?ex=1389762000&en=b328a37ed0ed6534&ei=5124&partner=digg&exprod=digg

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Red_Cross_ambulances_hit_by_Israeli_strike

(pull you're ingnorant head out of your ass, Israel does the SAME SHIT, EVEN WORSE as they have better technology, but clearly with incompetent people using the shit as they always kill the innocent people... shit, who know's it might be on purpose..)

Yeah clearly, the tactic of 'let your own people be killed by the enemy whose killing everyone to gain sympathy and aid money to help pay for all the damage done by the enemy who keeps killing everyone..." is working out fantastically for Hamas. Think things through first.

I'm being played? Played by who? And to what tune, peace? Who the fuck would that benifit, besides all of humanity?!

The 'objectivity' you speak of is BULLSHIT, it's "all Americans are better than everyone else, and we have the right to keep everyone else completely supressed under our military power because we're the shit and so powerful already that nobody else can do shit to stop us so fuck it". You're in it for yourself, for whatevers best for you, you couldn't give a fuck less about the millions of people who suffer and die because your greedy ass has to be comfortable with consuming 4x's as much resources as you fucking need, and your government has been in power long enough to gain the trust and manipulate idiots like you into thinking they're doing the shit for your benifit. It's so mind boggling it would be funny if it wasn't so fuckin' sad.

Point by point, pwnage CrackerJax. What the fuck else have you got? :finger:
 

CrackerJax

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Excuse me padawon't, but Hamas is fully capable of protecting its citizenry.

When you fight in a cowardly way as hamas does....there will be casualties.

Hamas has miles and miles of tunnels to hide civvies in, but they won't. Now THEY will use the tunnels, but not the regular civilian.

Before Israel retaliates they actually warn the Palestinians..... that's a bit different from Hamas firing rockets into CIVILIAN locations without warning.

So let's just cut to the chase.

YOU THINK IT IS OKAY TO USE TERRORISM.

YOU THINK IT IS OK TO TARGET NON COMBATANTS

YOU THINK IT IS NOT OKAY FOR ISRAEL TO RESPOND

IF THEY DO RESPOND IT MUST BE WITH ONLY EQUAL FORCE

ISRAEL NEEDS TO VACATE THE COUNTRY

Have I missed anything?


If you haven't figured out by now that HAMAS DESIRES a high body count on the part of the Palestinians......... you are not smart at all. One of the easily fooled crowd....but I'm guessing your prejudices are clouding your judgement....let go of the hate.

Israel has never attacked without provocation....the VERY VERY simple thing to do is stop attacking. In the same breath you will say that diplomacy was the answer to iraq, Iran, North Korea, not aggression.

But HERE you make an exception....... you are a hypocrite of the highest order.

You support terrorism.

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CrackerJax

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Yes, your posts have shown you to be quite capable of hate. let it go.

What you cannot stand is my logic. Go get some. You think terrorism is an okay thing to do to people just walking down the street, maybe walking their kids to school, or blowing up a school bus...that would be sweet huh?

You make my stomach turn at your callous disregard for human life. Innocent human lives.


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Woomeister

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Have you ever left America Jax? Probably not, the only media you watch is probably American, the books you read, American etc etc. MY point? You are a brainwashed fool who is unable to look at ALL sides from an objective perspective, you preach to people rather than try and share your opinion. You have to remember that debate is exactly that, discussion with differing viewpoint. You think that throwing a few misguided facts, about a situation you only know through press and news reports, will make people believe you are right is so shortsighted. Do you have any primary evidence for anything you speak of? Your arguement is flawed as everything you accuse others of you are guilty of, and more, so making everything you say, ironically and hypocritically absurd.
 

panhead

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Iran has to put on a strong front becuase history has shown that it will be threatened again and again for the way IT wishes to run itself. It would not fire off a nuke unless it really had too,
You are 100% correct about Iran not firing off a nuclear weapon unless they really have to,it's a good thing god will let them know when that time comes :roll:

Im allways amazed when i see people try & defend any religious maniac let alone a country led by religious fanatics,maybe if we just understood them better things would be different :lol:
 

We Love 1

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It is people like Cracker jax that make me hate Americans, and believe me Im not the only one.
Maybe its not his fault entirely. Maybe hes had too much fluoride to his brain. Its supposed to cause brain damage :-(. (Poor Cracker)

That coupled with the Zionist filled media equals brainwashed dumb american sheeple. Just what they want.

Like I said, the same tactics Hitler used too.

Even though I know the truth, the truth hurts. Who really wants to admit that the superpower of the world is run by some rogue Nazi-like Zionist warmongering banksters that profit off all the wars and whatnot.

Because every country in the world, besides five which include Iran and North Korea both which are under the crosshairs of the USA, are run by central banks all owned by the same cartel. Right?

I don't see too many countries standing up to the USA, you would think they would make alliances and at least publically inform the people of the world whats really going on. But no, they don't because they are also under the grips of these central banks.

Thats what I'm figuring anyways. Feel free to refute My logic Cracker.
 

medicineman

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Maybe its not his fault entirely. Maybe hes had too much fluoride to his brain. Its supposed to cause brain damage :-(. (Poor Cracker)

That coupled with the Zionist filled media equals brainwashed dumb american sheeple. Just what they want.

Like I said, the same tactics Hitler used too.

Even though I know the truth, the truth hurts. Who really wants to admit that the superpower of the world is run by some rogue Nazi-like Zionist warmongering banksters that profit off all the wars and whatnot.

Because every country in the world, besides five which include Iran and North Korea both which are under the crosshairs of the USA, are run by central banks all owned by the same cartel. Right?

I don't see too many countries standing up to the USA, you would think they would make alliances and at least publically inform the people of the world whats really going on. But no, they don't because they are also under the grips of these central banks.

Thats what I'm figuring anyways. Feel free to refute My logic Cracker.
Geeze I don't get it. You pummel the Zionist jews and not a word. I did that a few months back and it was like hitting a hornets nest. They came out from everywhere and pounced on me with rascist rants about how I must hate Jews. I don't hate Jews or Americans or any particular race of people. What I "hate" are their policies, foriegn and domestic. It's a forgone conclusion that Jews have a huge influence on American policy, both foriegn and domestic. It is those policies that I hate, and if you look at all the banking problems, behind all the bullshit, you'll find a parade of Jews.
 

sandmonkey

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Geeze I don't get it. You pummel the Zionist jews and not a word. I did that a few months back and it was like hitting a hornets nest. They came out from everywhere and pounced on me with rascist rants about how I must hate Jews. I don't hate Jews or Americans or any particular race of people. What I "hate" are their policies, foriegn and domestic. It's a forgone conclusion that Jews have a huge influence on American policy, both foriegn and domestic. It is those policies that I hate, and if you look at all the banking problems, behind all the bullshit, you'll find a parade of Jews.
amen brother. My "hate" is not for any people or faith, but for the zionist system that has engulfed our world; our reality.
 

We Love 1

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, you'll find a parade of Jews.
HAHA :lol: @ MedMan.

Just make sure You put the word "Zionist" before the word Jews that way people won't think Your talking about ALL the Jews.

I don't believe the majority of Jews that live in Israel support the Zionist agendas. Maybe I'm wrong? The difference, to Me, is the difference between a German and a Nazi. Just because one lived in Germany doesn't mean they supported Hitler and his ideology.

I believe We, the people of this world, should put the Rothschild family is prison and split up their ~500 trillion dollars between all the countries of the world. That would equl to ~2.6 trillion dollars per country and would fix the depression We are having. Then every country should write a check to each citizen over 18 for their share. Thats what I would do anyways.

Down with the Zionists/Rothschilds! Power to the people and not the Zionist banksters!

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PadawanBater

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Excuse me padawon't, but Hamas is fully capable of protecting its citizenry.
"fully capable" is a fucking lie and you know it. They don't have the money to rebuild shit that's been destroyed in the conflict, they don't have running water, they don't have sanitation, they don't have enough food for everyone because of the blockade, they don't have shit to protect thier population with, everyone is trying to protect themselves the best they can, but I don't know if you've ever seen a 500lb bomb drop on a house before, there is litterally nothing left of the house after. And these tunnels you speak of, yeah, guess what, they also have bombs that are designed to penetrate tunnels then explode, killing everyone inside, so much for that idea.

When you fight in a cowardly way as hamas does....there will be casualties.
How would you expect Hamas to fight? Don't dodge this question. If you were the leader of Hamas, how would you fight?

Hamas has miles and miles of tunnels to hide civvies in, but they won't. Now THEY will use the tunnels, but not the regular civilian.
If I were a Palestinian civilian, I wouldn't feel safe using a tunnel. As I've already said, Israel uses air strikes against the tunnels, that's actually what started this conflict in the first place, and where would you expect them to go? Could you all of a sudden in your current situation just up and leave where you live and relocate somewhere else and live successfully? (not to mention your not in a warzone)

Before Israel retaliates they actually warn the Palestinians..... that's a bit different from Hamas firing rockets into CIVILIAN locations without warning.
The US government warned Japan before they dropped the nuclear bombs, but still 80,000 and 100,000 innocent civilians died. Nuff said.

Hamas uses disgusting tactics, I fully admit this and completely agree with you. I've already said this a half dozen times, I don't support Hamas or the tactics they use, but I understand WHY they use them. Please understand the difference. I don't know why you think because I think Israel is at fault in this conflict that automatically makes me support Hamas and everything Hamas does. That's some well thought out logic right there, clearly.

So let's just cut to the chase.

YOU THINK IT IS OKAY TO USE TERRORISM.
Says the guy advocating death and more endless war that we can't win. I've been advocating PEACE this entire thread, anyone can scroll back and read my posts and see that. Also the same guy who was praising the use of waterboarding a few pages back, whose the one supporting terrorism asshole?

YOU THINK IT IS OK TO TARGET NON COMBATANTS
lmfao, again scroll back and read through the thread to see I've been saying the biggest problem is that innocent civilians are killed that have nothing to do with the shit their corrupt government pulls. These kinds of comments makes me question your reading comprehension ability.

Take one look at the death toll on both sides, Palestinians and Israeli's, it's wierd huh, seems the Palestinians lost over 940 civilians while Israel lost 3. Whose targetting who, and who supports targetting non combatants, asshole?

YOU THINK IT IS NOT OKAY FOR ISRAEL TO RESPOND
I think Israel is using extreme excessive force, and committing war crimes, and killing civilians, and not solving shit, and making everything worse, and since they're the bigger power and they're the agressor, they have the ability to stop it whenever they want, and they choose not to.

IF THEY DO RESPOND IT MUST BE WITH ONLY EQUAL FORCE
The only point of using EXCESSIVE FORCE would be to kill civilians. Why else CrackerJax, answer that.

ISRAEL NEEDS TO VACATE THE COUNTRY
Israel needs to respect the rights of other countries, stop being a dick to everyone because they have the military power to destroy everyone who says anything, and mind it's own fuckin' business. (just like we do)

Have I missed anything?
Yeah dude, you sure have, you've missed EVERYTHING it seems...

If you haven't figured out by now that HAMAS DESIRES a high body count on the part of the Palestinians......... you are not smart at all. One of the easily fooled crowd....but I'm guessing your prejudices are clouding your judgement....let go of the hate.
OK, let's take this further, there's a high body count, say thousands of innocent Palestinians died, now what? What does that get Hamas?

What prejudices? Who do I hate, and how did you come to this conclusion?

Israel has never attacked without provocation....the VERY VERY simple thing to do is stop attacking. In the same breath you will say that diplomacy was the answer to iraq, Iran, North Korea, not aggression.
I'll be back later with examples of Israel's UNPROVOKED agression, just for you buddy.

But HERE you make an exception....... you are a hypocrite of the highest order.
Hamas has the right to protect it's citizens, not only the right, the obligation, same as our government would if we were invaded, your lack of perception doesn't make me a hypocrite, it makes you an idiot.

You support terrorism.
I support peace and non violence, and standing up for what's right, if that means doing things people like you consider terrorism, fuck it, I'm a terrorist.

Again, point by point, howbout you take the time and actually try to refute this post point by point, let's see how well you do...
 
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