Iran kick off looking iminant?

Iran. The situation with Iran...what do YOU think we should do?

Let's go to James Madison's first Inaugural speach:

To cherish peace and friendly intercourse with all nations having correspondent dispositions; to maintain sincere neutrality toward belligerent nations; to prefer in all cases amicable discussion and reasonable accommodation of differences to a decision of them by an appeal to arms; to exclude foreign intrigues and foreign partialities, so degrading to all countries and so baneful to free ones; to foster a spirit of independence too just to invade the rights of others, too proud to surrender our own, too liberal to indulge unworthy prejudices ourselves and too elevated not to look down upon them in others; to hold the union of the States as the basis of their peace and happiness; to support the Constitution, which is the cement of the Union, as well in its limitations as in its authorities; to respect the rights and authorities reserved to the States and to the people as equally incorporated with and essential to the success of the general system; to avoid the slightest interference with the right of conscience or the functions of religion, so wisely exempted from civil jurisdiction; to preserve in their full energy the other salutary provisions in behalf of private and personal rights, and of the freedom of the press; to observe economy in public expenditures; to liberate the public resources by an honorable discharge of the public debts; to keep within the requisite limits a standing military force, always remembering that an armed and trained militia is the firmest bulwark of republics — that without standing armies their liberty can never be in danger, nor with large ones safe; to promote by authorized means improvements friendly to agriculture, to manufactures, and to external as well as internal commerce; to favor in like manner the advancement of science and the diffusion of information as the best aliment to true liberty; to carry on the benevolent plans which have been so meritoriously applied to the conversion of our aboriginal neighbors from the degradation and wretchedness of savage life to a participation of the improvements of which the human mind and manners are susceptible in a civilized state — as far as sentiments and intentions such as these can aid the fulfillment of my duty, they will be a resource which can not fail me.
 
How long has Israel had nuclear weapons?

How long after Iran gets them do you think that Achmanutjob will use it to bring forth the caliphate or whatever he fervently preaches? I mean.. It isnt a conspiracy theory, the man actually says what he will do.

"Achmanutjob" lol
He is a nut. Someone should put a bullet in him. I can't believe we let him come here and spew his BS.
 
“Some of the US forces that left the Ain al-Assad Air base in Iraq last Thursday, did not come back to the USA or its base in Germany, but were transferred to Jordan during the evening hours.”

Developing Story: Hundreds of US-NATO Soldiers Arrive & Begin Operations on the Jordan-Syria Border



Cripes. Why aren't mainstream media reporting this? A quick search shows the story in more than one place, but no mainstream. And don't give me crap about conspiracies of mainstream media. If there is a story here, they would report it. Probably will too, just behind the ball I'm guessing.
 
Cripes. Why aren't mainstream media reporting this? A quick search shows the story in more than one place, but no mainstream. And don't give me crap about conspiracies of mainstream media. If there is a story here, they would report it. Probably will too, just behind the ball I'm guessing.

Well, directly from the article ...

We contacted our expert sources on US media and intelligence-military and were told that the US media has been told not to report on this latest development until Tuesday, December 13.

They may have been asked not to comment before today.
 
THE REPUBLIC IS DEAD! NDAA was passed, MARTIAL LAW FOOLS!! U CAN NOW B HELD INDEFINITELY WITH OUT A TRIAL, NO LAWYER AND IT LEGAL AND AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS!! Get ready fir the cleansing ....buy food, water bulles! Buy gold /silver! Vote for Ron Paul!
 
Order out of chaos! War for profit, that is what we do.


these are the countries your government sells weapons too.... Makes you proud??? How many these countries harbour terrorists????

Top 25 u.s. Arms recipients in the developing world, fy 2006 and fy 2007
country by rank
1. Pakistan
2. Saudi arabia
3. Israel
4. Iraq
5. Korea
6. United arab emirates (uae)
7. Kuwait
8. Egypt
9. Colombia
10. Singapore
11. Jordan
12. Bahrain
13. Thailand
14. Philippines
15. Brazil
16. India
17. Malaysia
18. Oman
19. Chile
20. Morocco
21. Argentina
22. Lebanon
23. Indonesia
24. Yemen
25. Tunisia

[td="align: Right"] amount of weapons received
combined total for fy 2006 and fy 2007 (dollars in millions) [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $3,662.4 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $2,511.3 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $2,070.1 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,416.7 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,246.8 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $983.5 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $878.7 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $845.0 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $575.1 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $492.7 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $473.6 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $307.5 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $164.0 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $156.1 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $95.4 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $92.3 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $68.7 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $57.1 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $53.8 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $52.3 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $44.0 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $41.9 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $37.3 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $18.1 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $16.6 [/td]

top five recipients of u.s.security assistance, fy2002 to fy2009 (dollars in millions)
country
afghanistan
iraq
israel
egypt
pakistan
total

[td="align: Right"] fy 2002-06 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] fy 2007 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] fy 2008[sup]a[/sup] [/td]
[td="align: Right"] fy 2009[sup]b[/sup] [/td]
[td="align: Right"] total [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $11,520.2 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $9,085.6 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $4,502.6 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $4,656.2 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $29,764.6 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $14,459.5 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $7,658.1 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $3,997.2 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $ 2,397.0 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $27,492.2 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $14,219.7 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $2,460.2 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $2,380.6 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $2,550.0 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $21,610.5 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $9,994.4 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,757.7 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,705.9 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,505.4 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $14,963.4 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $7,600.8 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $616.6 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $738.5 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $798.4 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $9,754.4 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $57,794.6 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $21,578.7 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $13,824.8 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $11,907 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $104,585.1 [/td]

u.s. Arms sales to nations at war,2006/07 (in current dollars)
nation
algeria
burundi
chad
cote d'ivoire (ivory coast)
democratic republic of the congo
ethiopia
kenya
nigeria
somalia
sudan
uganda
afghanistan
burma (myanmar)
india
nepal
pakistan
philippines
sri lanka
thailand
russia-chechnya
turkey
colombia
haiti
iraq
israel
lebanon
yemen

[td="align: Right"] foreign military sales
fy 2006 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] foreign military sales
fy 2007 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] total [/td]

[td="colspan: 4"] africa [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,816,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $100,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,916,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,255,00 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,464,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $2,719,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $8,852,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $3,200,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $12,052,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,600,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $3,853,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $5,453,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $253,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $724,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $977,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $3,017,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $3,017,000 [/td]

[td="colspan: 4"] asia [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,727,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,727,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $92,334,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $92,334,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $100,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $200,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $300,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $3,475,245,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $187,156,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $3,662,401,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $30,578,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $125,502,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $156,080,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,400,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $310,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,710,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $75,576,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $88,439,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $164,015,000 [/td]

[td="colspan: 4"] europe [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $967,776,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $2,033,629,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $3,001,405,000 [/td]

[td="colspan: 4"] the americas [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $139,463,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $435,617,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $575,080,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $200,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $835,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,035,000 [/td]

[td="colspan: 4"] middle east [/td]

[td="align: Right"] -- [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,416,752,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,416,752,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,004,631,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $1,065,541,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $2,070,172,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $1,684,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $40,154,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $41,838,000 [/td]

[td="align: Right"] $4,143,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $14,056,000 [/td]
[td="align: Right"] $18,199,000 [/td]
 
But, if your a white american you have nothing to worry about. We are the third riech.... kill em all.....
The nazis did not lose the war, they just changed venue...
 
Listen... Im tired and stoned and really don't want to fall out with any one on here... I just think its duplitical to go on about Iran like you did above while selling guns and shit to so many other countries that do the same shit (pakistan, Lebanon, iraq, afganstan, egypt, yeman, sudan, somalia, jordan etc all have al Qaeda shit going on)

I have a very good friend ( Dianne) here in Ireland who is Iranian... She is such a beautiful person... funny, hard working, honest, inteligent, incredibly beautiful... Drinks & smokes and love's life more than any one i know... I know for a fact you would like her too... you cant not like her.... And this i why i get so pissed of on here when people talk about bombing the shit out of these countries... When i think of all the "Dianne's" that have died un neccesarly in Iraq / Afganistan... It makes me Sick... And for what??? A safer world???? C'mon...

This is a situation that, regrettably, is NOT about the common Persian. It is about a serious ongoing conflict with the Iranian leadership - it always has been. To make it an issue of the "people" is a sentimentality that belies the true nature of the situation. The reality is that their leadership is, and has been, ready to sacrifice their own people for the preservation of their own power - at all costs. I would highly recommend a book called TREACHEROUS ALLIANCE (written by an Iranian) that pretty much gives an outline of Iran, Israel, and the US since the 1940's. It is strikingly clear that Iran has pursued a path of self-imposed isolation vis a vis their foreign policy.

@ the ruiner

My answer is to let them finish building a bomb.

Let the UN decide what to do while they are doing it and what to do if they use it.

Spending hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars preventing the inevitable seems stupid IMO. There will always be bad people in the world and the USA should not be the policeman for the world.

Once again, we ARE the UN. Try again.

A must watch regarding Iran, and the rest of the middle east.

Dude...read books, just try it...you'll be amazed at what you can learn.
 
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