Introducing the aerotunnel...
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Alaric
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Hey jr,
I like to have at least 20psi at each sprayline---I run 9 microjet sprayers per tube. In these veg pics I run leader 3/4 hp high head pressure----two of those in the flower room in tandem.
I have lots more archive pics if there is enough interest. I believe this design solves many problems with current aero systems--But I'm biased.
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I like to have at least 20psi at each sprayline---I run 9 microjet sprayers per tube. In these veg pics I run leader 3/4 hp high head pressure----two of those in the flower room in tandem.
I have lots more archive pics if there is enough interest. I believe this design solves many problems with current aero systems--But I'm biased.
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Alaric
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Sorry to those that responded to this thread---not on line much these days.
The the primary intent of these hanging tubes with vinyl panels:
1) be able to get as much plant material as practical close to the same distance from the light source--- no matter the plant size. I've gone into flowering with 6' plants laid down almost horizontal with the tube---the panels allow that.
2) Each tube has an indedendant adjustable trellis using 1/2" emt pipe (electrical metal pipe).
3) the tubes are supported by a 10' box rail mounted to the ceiling equipted with rollers that allow the tubes to be slid apart horizontally and adjusted vertically using the chain and "S" hooks.
4) There are two inner box rails that support the light rail allowing it to be slid from side to side-----so I'm not bumping my head while working inside the tunnel.
5) There is no medium used from clonning to harvest (grorocks used for starting seed).
There's a lot of information just from looking at the pics. I'm working from archives taken over a 15 year span----this method is the evolution of all the systems I've built.
The the primary intent of these hanging tubes with vinyl panels:
1) be able to get as much plant material as practical close to the same distance from the light source--- no matter the plant size. I've gone into flowering with 6' plants laid down almost horizontal with the tube---the panels allow that.
2) Each tube has an indedendant adjustable trellis using 1/2" emt pipe (electrical metal pipe).
3) the tubes are supported by a 10' box rail mounted to the ceiling equipted with rollers that allow the tubes to be slid apart horizontally and adjusted vertically using the chain and "S" hooks.
4) There are two inner box rails that support the light rail allowing it to be slid from side to side-----so I'm not bumping my head while working inside the tunnel.
5) There is no medium used from clonning to harvest (grorocks used for starting seed).
There's a lot of information just from looking at the pics. I'm working from archives taken over a 15 year span----this method is the evolution of all the systems I've built.
Alaric
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I've been asked to post more pics about this "tunnel" method (just took too long.
These are some shots of the flower room and tubes without plants. The flower room has been reconfigured from two strings of lights running parallel to four 1ks in series (22' x 11' x 9' flower room). This series configuration makes it much easier to get the canopy circled above the lights.
These are some shots of the flower room and tubes without plants. The flower room has been reconfigured from two strings of lights running parallel to four 1ks in series (22' x 11' x 9' flower room). This series configuration makes it much easier to get the canopy circled above the lights.
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Sativied
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Despite your claims about how your system is a result of 15 years evolution of all the systems you've built and that it solved many problems with other aero systems, I can't help wondering, did it take you three years to get at that stage into flowering?
As asked 3 years ago:
You didn't mentioning how long they flowered but frankly it just doesn't look that great to me for 4k light. Cool though but it doesn't seem to be that effective based on the pics so far.
As asked 3 years ago:
And if so what amount of yield do you get from it?
You didn't mentioning how long they flowered but frankly it just doesn't look that great to me for 4k light. Cool though but it doesn't seem to be that effective based on the pics so far.
Alaric
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Yea I hear you guys,
I was dissapointed too.
The goal of this system was to get closer to 3 per 1k than 2 (60 day finisher)---Done 2 many times so I know the canopy space required. Soooooo I thought why not increase the canopy area? Next challenge was how-----and how am going to have easy access to inner plants and the lights and nothing underneath-----did it.
I harvested 1 of 8 tubes every 6-8 days. Then immediately filled the emptied tube with 3'-4' tall plants out of veg----- so the plants in the veg and flower rooms are 6-8 days apart and still near equal distance to the light/s. Did this primarily to reduce the amount of effort required all at once and not lose time between harvest. 8 tubes avering 1 3/4 per is 7lbs------don't want to sit and manicure that long (espically running solo).
Got to go for now, I'll try to address this some more soon with some pics from previous shows.
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I was dissapointed too.
The goal of this system was to get closer to 3 per 1k than 2 (60 day finisher)---Done 2 many times so I know the canopy space required. Soooooo I thought why not increase the canopy area? Next challenge was how-----and how am going to have easy access to inner plants and the lights and nothing underneath-----did it.
I harvested 1 of 8 tubes every 6-8 days. Then immediately filled the emptied tube with 3'-4' tall plants out of veg----- so the plants in the veg and flower rooms are 6-8 days apart and still near equal distance to the light/s. Did this primarily to reduce the amount of effort required all at once and not lose time between harvest. 8 tubes avering 1 3/4 per is 7lbs------don't want to sit and manicure that long (espically running solo).
Got to go for now, I'll try to address this some more soon with some pics from previous shows.
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MrMeanGreen
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Do you not find that the plants at the top of the tubes are more productive than the bottom? top plants will have better roots and bottom plants alot less room for roots to roam.
Also do the tubes not get rammed with roots? Something is a miss though, alot of those plants look over (drowning) or under fed to me.
Also do the tubes not get rammed with roots? Something is a miss though, alot of those plants look over (drowning) or under fed to me.
Alaric
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"Do you not find that the plants at the top of the tubes are more productive than the bottom?"
Overall yes----there is more screen area to fill in the upper most tubes. It was too awkard to position a tube overhead between the two light strings----that's why I reconfigured the room to be in series.
"top plants will have better roots and bottom plants alot less room for roots to roam.
"top plants will have better roots and bottom plants alot less room for roots to roam."
Don't understand how u came to that conclusion?------same amount of room for roots in all tubes.
"Also do the tubes not get rammed with roots?"
No---I've gone into flowering with 5' plants and still had enough root space, the vinyl panels covering the trough of tubes helps with root space a lot-----but I don't like that large because the limbs are difficult to train into the trellis.
"alot of those plants look over (drowning) or under fed to me."
Feed schedule is 15 seconds on, 15 minutes off fed by syncronized 3/4 hp pumps. What I noticed was the lagre fans in the upper plants adjusted toward the light while the stems remain vertical making the plants look funky.
Would like to see someone run sog with this method.
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Overall yes----there is more screen area to fill in the upper most tubes. It was too awkard to position a tube overhead between the two light strings----that's why I reconfigured the room to be in series.
"top plants will have better roots and bottom plants alot less room for roots to roam.
"top plants will have better roots and bottom plants alot less room for roots to roam."
Don't understand how u came to that conclusion?------same amount of room for roots in all tubes.
"Also do the tubes not get rammed with roots?"
No---I've gone into flowering with 5' plants and still had enough root space, the vinyl panels covering the trough of tubes helps with root space a lot-----but I don't like that large because the limbs are difficult to train into the trellis.
"alot of those plants look over (drowning) or under fed to me."
Feed schedule is 15 seconds on, 15 minutes off fed by syncronized 3/4 hp pumps. What I noticed was the lagre fans in the upper plants adjusted toward the light while the stems remain vertical making the plants look funky.
Would like to see someone run sog with this method.
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MrMeanGreen
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I am assuming your tubes run down hill in order to drain and therefore there is a flow of water. Your roots will follow the flow of water downhill so your top plant roots will be able to wander all the way down your tube where as the bottom plant roots won't grow up the tubes only have their alotted space rather than growing through your other plant space. Clear as mud lol.
Alaric
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"I am assuming your tubes run down hill in order to drain and therefore there is a flow of water."
Exactly
"Your roots will follow the flow of water downhill so your top plant roots will be able to wander all the way down your tube where as the bottom plant roots won't grow up the tubes only have their alotted space rather than growing through your other plant space."
Nope----doesn't work that way. The bottom tubes are also tilted toward the drain lines----the minimum heigth of the bottom tubes is 12" to drain back to the rez (12" hihg also.
Here's of pic from a former show.
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Exactly
"Your roots will follow the flow of water downhill so your top plant roots will be able to wander all the way down your tube where as the bottom plant roots won't grow up the tubes only have their alotted space rather than growing through your other plant space."
Nope----doesn't work that way. The bottom tubes are also tilted toward the drain lines----the minimum heigth of the bottom tubes is 12" to drain back to the rez (12" hihg also.
Here's of pic from a former show.
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MrMeanGreen
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I will try one one more time. let assume you have 1 tube with 5 sites. one end of the tube is higher than the other in order to drain. pot 1 is the highest pot, pot 5 is the lowest. The roots of pot 1 will grow down through pots 2,3,4 and stop at pot 5. The roots of pot 2 will grow through pots 3,4,and 5. So on and so on. Pot 5's root space is now occupied by roots from all the pots 1 -5. Pot 1 now has a massive root system and pot 5 is choked. I am not hating at all, just curious.
Alaric
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"pot 1 is the highest pot, pot 5 is the lowest. The roots of pot 1 will grow down through pots 2,3,4 and stop at pot 5."
There are no pots and medinm-----only a 9' trough,that allows flexability in terms of plant numbers. Example: If filling tube with 3' tall plants (seven to nine plants). If filling with 4' to 5 footers-----5 or 6 plants. Only gone into flowering with 6 footer one time----too difficult.
"The roots of pot 2 will grow through pots 3,4,and 5. So on and so on. Pot 5's root space is now occupied by roots from all the pots 1 -5. Pot 1 now has a massive root system and pot 5 is choked."
No---has not been a problem. The roots can be "dressed" into the tube ( why I like the trough and panel method. Also, fewer number plants are spaced out more in the tube. Each tube has a sprayline with 9 microjet sprays.
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There are no pots and medinm-----only a 9' trough,that allows flexability in terms of plant numbers. Example: If filling tube with 3' tall plants (seven to nine plants). If filling with 4' to 5 footers-----5 or 6 plants. Only gone into flowering with 6 footer one time----too difficult.
"The roots of pot 2 will grow through pots 3,4,and 5. So on and so on. Pot 5's root space is now occupied by roots from all the pots 1 -5. Pot 1 now has a massive root system and pot 5 is choked."
No---has not been a problem. The roots can be "dressed" into the tube ( why I like the trough and panel method. Also, fewer number plants are spaced out more in the tube. Each tube has a sprayline with 9 microjet sprays.
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MrMeanGreen
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u might wonna consider switching ducting. If you hold that cheap stuff up to the light you will see thousands of pin holes which if you are venting them lights straight out will be polluted with dirty smelly air. Have you tried accoustic ducting, thicker and excellent noise reduction.
ASMALLVOICE
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The concept is neat for sure. My only concern is I see some electrical devices that are wickedly exposed to water hazards (get them fans out from under anything that has water in it). A bit of stream lining on cordages and piping (that's my ocd typing) 
Thanx for the share
Peace and Safe Grows
Asmallvoice
Thanx for the share
Peace and Safe Grows
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