Interesting read...
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JohnnyPotSeed1969
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every word of that shit was true. except that last bit about aliens.
LOL, glad you enjoyed the read?
dtfan
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I do believe the "conspiracys" of big industry being the reason for hemp becoming illegal in the US, but what's the excuse for most of the rest of the world? I don't know my history there as to why it became illegal. I think it was made illegal in Canada before it was in the US, for example. Did Canada have their own version of Hearst and Anslinger?
What about other countries? I assume it was legal and used worldwide in the 1800's, but then became illegal at some time in the 20th Century.
Anyone have a link to the world history of the legality of hemp/marijuana?
What about other countries? I assume it was legal and used worldwide in the 1800's, but then became illegal at some time in the 20th Century.
Anyone have a link to the world history of the legality of hemp/marijuana?
HumboldtGreenz
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Marijuana is illegal because it would whipe out the agriculture industry. Its price per pound is higher than any other crop and it, even illegally, is the largest cash crop in the U.S. All Agricultural land would be used to grow marijuana. We need our food as we use it a lot for export and bribing small, starving countries. What better way to keep the food here than keep weed illegal? Its simple.
You realize that if everybody grew it that it would be of no value, right?
DND
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Are you sure Canada outlawed it before the USA? One main reason for lots of countries outlawing is fear of economic and trade sanctions from the USA. Look up about Mexico in the last couple years they wanted to legalize all drugs for personal use and the US had their hand in that. Not sure if they passed it anyway or not, but just goes to show. I know some other countries outlawed it before the USA to basically oppress others because of religion and race.
DND
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How not? Some people use it as medicine and depend on it to live pain, anxiety, depression free etc. Value is not only in terms of money.
dtfan
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yea, 1923 for Canada according to this site.
Pot and Politics: Canada and the Marijuana Debate - Life and Society - CBC Archives
HumboldtGreenz
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It would lose value, but would still hold high value even though you could grow mass quantities. Look at tobacco.
Kant
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As much fun as big conspiracy theories are this one is a load of crap. While i'm sure big businesses like the oil industry, alcohol industry, tobacco industry and pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest right now, they're not the original cause or reason for it's continued legal status.
Let's work backwards. Pot was made originally made illicit in 1937 thanks to the hard work of Angslinger. Well laws don't get passed over night. It took a lot of hard campaigning for it to get passed, So lets go back 5 or so years. What was happening in the US in 1932? A: The great depression. When the banks collapsed, lots of business flopped and consequently lots of people lost their jobs. These newly unemployed flooded the welfare offices. This flood of people demanding money is economically very dangerous for governments. So who can we stigmatize to lighten the load? Immigrants! who are these immigrants? To answer that we have to go back another 10 or so years. Early 1920's; WWI just ended and during the war the US industrialized on a scale never before seen. This started an economic boom. But to help feed that boom a large labor force is need. So where can we get lots of cheap labor? A: IMMIGRANTS! HEY! look at that, the country just to the south of us has just such a labor force.
Ok, now let's jump back to early 1930's. lots of people out of work and we need to lighten the load. Now we know who our superfluous population is. In order for us to stop them from taking our scarce money and jobs we need to deport them. How? take something they're doing but the average citizen doesn't do and make it illegal. What is that something? Cannabis.
The fact is, the southwestern states pressured fed to make cannabis illegal so they would have ground to deport this excess population and alleviate the pressure on their welfare offices and therefore free up some money for other things. The man in charge, Anslinger, could only make a law stick by convincing congress and the general public that cannabis was dangerous and that the only solution was prohibition. His attempts at demonizing pot and the fact that prohibition (thx temperance movement) was popular at the time made it possible for cannabis to be outlawed. The reason why it remains illegal is historical baggage. Most of our beliefs come from our parents and those around us. If everyone is saying pot is dangerous and evil, in general we'll belief pot is dangerous and evil. We won't question it and will furiously defend it because it is "common knowledge" or "common sense". Th reason politicians are so slow to changing the laws is because that is what they grew up hearing. That is a strong held belief that won't change anytime soon.
Let's work backwards. Pot was made originally made illicit in 1937 thanks to the hard work of Angslinger. Well laws don't get passed over night. It took a lot of hard campaigning for it to get passed, So lets go back 5 or so years. What was happening in the US in 1932? A: The great depression. When the banks collapsed, lots of business flopped and consequently lots of people lost their jobs. These newly unemployed flooded the welfare offices. This flood of people demanding money is economically very dangerous for governments. So who can we stigmatize to lighten the load? Immigrants! who are these immigrants? To answer that we have to go back another 10 or so years. Early 1920's; WWI just ended and during the war the US industrialized on a scale never before seen. This started an economic boom. But to help feed that boom a large labor force is need. So where can we get lots of cheap labor? A: IMMIGRANTS! HEY! look at that, the country just to the south of us has just such a labor force.
Ok, now let's jump back to early 1930's. lots of people out of work and we need to lighten the load. Now we know who our superfluous population is. In order for us to stop them from taking our scarce money and jobs we need to deport them. How? take something they're doing but the average citizen doesn't do and make it illegal. What is that something? Cannabis.
The fact is, the southwestern states pressured fed to make cannabis illegal so they would have ground to deport this excess population and alleviate the pressure on their welfare offices and therefore free up some money for other things. The man in charge, Anslinger, could only make a law stick by convincing congress and the general public that cannabis was dangerous and that the only solution was prohibition. His attempts at demonizing pot and the fact that prohibition (thx temperance movement) was popular at the time made it possible for cannabis to be outlawed. The reason why it remains illegal is historical baggage. Most of our beliefs come from our parents and those around us. If everyone is saying pot is dangerous and evil, in general we'll belief pot is dangerous and evil. We won't question it and will furiously defend it because it is "common knowledge" or "common sense". Th reason politicians are so slow to changing the laws is because that is what they grew up hearing. That is a strong held belief that won't change anytime soon.