Hi, have been having trouble getting this auto started. It’s a White Widow Auto from Dinafem seeds. I’m currently using FFOF in a solo cup. Watered soil a little before planting already germinated seed. Tap root was about 1/4” long when I planted. Occasionally I’ve slightly misting the top and covering with a cut water bottle with a few “breathing holes”. I have it about 3” under a 20w CFL. No nutrients of course. It’s been about 2 and half days since I’ve planted the germinated seed. Being this is my first grow would just like some input because this seedling seems to be stunted or I’m just impatient. One of the cotyledons is a tad smaller than the other and seems to be turning yellow from the middle of the leaf. The tips seems to be a nice shade of green. The first set of true leaves seem very light green almost yellow and are very very small. Also the stem seems to be red/purple and I’m hearing like a half/half that this is normal with seedlings and some say it’s not. Just looking for some input on how she looks and what I can do, if there is anything, to make it better. T
Input on seedling needed
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Beachwalker
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Geez Louise it's only been two hours!? (Hint: paragraphs help) What you got going on there Weezy?
Beachwalker
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That ffof looks so different than mine, I don't have any of that bark in my ffof bag so I don't know what the hell is up with that first off?Secondly seedlings grow roots first they don't grow leaves theyre going to sit there and grow roots for anywhere from 7-14 days and then they'll start growing above the cup.
Everything looks fine, just don't flood it don't drown it and take it slow this is a long process Jimmy good luck
Shacks123
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I know people say it's terrible and stress and blahs blahs blahs.....if I have to question whether a seeds gonna sprout or not I go into the shade and gently dig it up to see what's wrong(9 times out of 10 I could have just waited a little longer)......and ph is usually the problem
Tuckatan
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You can’t see too well as the seedling is out of focus but it looks like it’s first leaves are showing some significant yellowing tips?
Tuckatan
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Could you get a better pic of the seedling op? It’s difficult to see the new leaves in your current pic
No my friend it has been 2 and a half days since planting. As for the bark I have no idea man didn’t add anything else to it.
They aren’t yellow yet but seem to be almost yellow. Very light green. Hasn’t gotten any more yellow or any greener. Seem to have stayed the same shade for the passed day almost.
Beachwalker
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It's brand-new fresh foxfarm he says, so why would he check soil PH? that's a new hippie myth and it's got to stop because people are checking soil PH like crazy making adjustments not needed, in another thread one nube's pouring vinegar in one day and baking soda the next! it's not a thing to do, especially if you don't know why you're doing it
Beachwalker
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That's why I gave you a picture of my ffof that I just opened doesn't look the same I think maybe they make it in different places but I don't know
your plant looks okay from what I could see get yourself some proper tools and then you'll know that you're doing your best to keep it correct
the minimum is a pH meter and a PPM pen and main thing don't flood it but don't let it dry out either, I use about 10-15 mL water every 12 to 24 hours in seedlings that size as needed, remember pH of 6.5 always in ffof
Shacks123
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I bought a big brick of soil from home hardware of potting soil soon at it was legalized thinking the same you do....germinated 6 11$ seeds through em in the soil and that was it.....finally got around to getting the stuff to check ph ph was around 4 I bought a brick of cheap coco and never looked back
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I didn’t not check ph of soil but typically is ranges between 6.3 and 6.8. I have Ph’d the water I added and misted with to about 6.4.
Shacks123
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Agreed if you dont know what your doing buy phed soil
Beachwalker
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Close! But you want 6.5 - 7 for best Cal and Mag absorption going forward, so try to lock it in on 6.5
I've been using foxfarm for quite a while I have lost one seedling to hot soil and I've had two others struggle in the three or so years I've been using it, so if it starts to struggle in your opinion come back with a picture and we'll take you through that but it looks okay from what I could see
Beachwalker
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You're right I couldn't see it too well, I went back and I do see exactly what you said I agree with you above, Op need more pics, there does seem to be an issue
Also does that look like ffof to you? I've never opened the bag that look like that?
Yeah I’ve heard this as well. First time grow so just used resources I had available to me. Next one I’m 100% making my own potting mix. Coco based. Know there is a lot more maintenance when it comes to nutrients growing in coco but it’s light, harder to over water and just seems overall better when growing autos. Just from what I’ve seen at least. I know your growing environment has a big role in your grow. Have an oscillating fan blowing air around my tent. Temp is running about 80-85 degrees, humidity is only about 40% but been using a home made humidity dome with same air holes. Just want to make sure she’s doing alright at least. Don’t want to use my resources on something not worth it. Gonna give her a few more days see if she gets any new growth. I actually weighed a cup of dry soil and felt the weight myself to have a better idea of when the medium is becoming dry. I don’t see myself over watering being that I haven’t gave it a lot also making sure it doesn’t get too dry. Idk if it should move it to my LED light (2 3k 3535smd’s and 16 3w Epiled LEDs Full spectrum) or if I should keep it under this 2700k 20w CFL. If so how far should my light be?
inDC4now
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Welcome to RIU. You didn't mention where you are located or what the temperature is in your space. I find in winter, with cooler temperatures, lots of things slow down. Healthy mature plants already kicking right along seem to take things better but if seedlings get too cold, too warm, too wet or too dry they slow down.
Oh, how about the humidity? Too dry? They will slow down. Seedlings can slow down anyway, so in winter, they can slow down even more.
Bottom line could be just being patient. Often the best thing we can do for our plants is get out of their way.
Good luck!
Beachwalker
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Actually I've got to say I was probably wrong on this one (it could happen!) Right away the bark in the soil was my first observation, I don't know why Fox Farm would look different where you are from where I am but just look at the pictures? Going forward...
How are you pH'ing your water?
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