indoor grow taken outside.

1lastGodsend

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I have a 60/40 sativa that I grew indoors for 3months. I had an older Hindu skunk that was ready for harvest so I threw the 3month old outside in a sunny spot while I used my grow tent for drying.

She's about 2feet tall. She's in peat moss dirt. Still on quarter the potency nute feedings. I have not fed her for about a month. She gets watered about every 3-4days.

Now when I touch the dirt it is pretty moist in a damp way. So I avoid watering but the dirt can stay moist for even 2weeks without water during hot days.

She's real green but her tips are browning & some areas are so dry they crumble to the touch.

I spotted green little bugs on her & 2cattapilars that I removed off her already.

I snipped all the super crunchy leaves off. Did not cut any green. & I sprayed her down with water, then a biodegradable soap repelent for bugs.

What's wrong with her? How do I fx it? Should I put her back indoors?

Please help.
 

Los Ganjales

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For your pests: Instead of using biodegradable soap get some Neem Oil. It's healthy for your plants and pests hate it. I'm doing the opposite of you, I'm vegging outdoors and flowering indoors. This means I have to really stay on top of my pest control so I don't infest my indoor grow. Honestly, I give each plant a treatment of neem oil once its old enough to consume nutes. I've never had a plant die on my because of bugs to this day. Then I just spot treat with neem oil when new gnats and mites appear. I've found spraying the tops of the soil, as oppose to the foliage (leaves), will kill all of the visable mites/pests right away without causing any harm to the roots or plant.

Watering: Watering every 3-4 days can be healthy. However in flowering, each plant requires about 20 ounces of consumed water/week, and this doesn't count for what's evaporated and drips out. Every plant is different, but when the leaves start getting crispy, you know theres life being lost in the plant. Monitor more closely how your plant consumes water/nutes, and when you feed the plant give it more phosphorous and potassium. You might even need some MagiCal, or something with magnesium and calcium. Can't really tell you without any pics.

Finally, growing outdoors: Be careful because anywhere in the US, you are receiving around 14+ hours of sun. That will stress your plant into thinking its veg time again, and start reversing any flowering you thought you've been doing. Having 12 hours of sleep is very crucial. If you have any light more than 12 hours, your plant isn't going to flower correctly. Personally I think you're better off flowering indoors so your plants are on a consistent 12-12. Otherwise you'll have to wait till september/october to flower correctly (if you're around the U.S.). There are also many good places to hang buds up to dry in a house. Just hang some strings in your closet or something. You only need buds to hang for no longer than a week, then it's all curing from there (which requires nothing but jars and paper bags).
 

1lastGodsend

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well when. Harvested my other plant she was almost 5feet tall. Keep in mind that I added this plant super late while I already had a full grown plant

My clone grew for 3months while my other mature plant flowered for 3months. Was the stress of going frm 12/12 indoors back to vegging outdoors that bad on her? & if I drop her back ndoors will the return to the 12/12 cycle cause another shock?
 

Smokey95033

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Neem oil is great stuff. But I don't really get where it came into play as an pest control product. It might work a few times bust most little critters become immune to it very quickly. Hell it seems like some bugs like the stuff!
 

Los Ganjales

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If you get the right Neem Oil, I use Einstein's, then it actually makes your leaves greener and I don't see bugs for weeks. All it takes is a light foliar spray on the tops of the soil and leaves, and underside of the leaves. Just an alternative to biodegradable soap that would possibly stop the yellow, crunchy dry leaf problem. Einstein's Neem Oil can be strong too if you want it to be. If Neem Oil doesn't work for you, make sure you're using a Wetting Agent (such as CoCo Wet), shake the spray bottle often, mix the neem oil fresh, and use hot water... keep it in a warm area when you're not using it, and that's it. I guarentee you won't have bugs on your plants. I use it on our regular vegtables too and everything is lookings amazing.

I don't know whats wrong with the plant, I just know ways you can better your conditions. Pictures would help.
 

Smokey95033

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If I get the right neem oil??? Dude I have Einsteins, I have a goddamn 60$ bottle of it. I also have a straight neem oil. It still isn't a pest control with wetting agent. Wetting agent is a penetrator, and you should be using it with neem no matter what.

You really guarantee that people will see no bugs?? I'll show you some white flies I have that love that shit, hell the gnats go for it too.

I totally agree neem is awesome stuff, I use it weekly (yes, with WARM water and wetting agent. I also throw in some botanicare Karma) but it doesn't do shit for pests. Go do some real research instead of just saying "Well, my shit...".
 

1lastGodsend

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So I decide to put my girl back indoors so she's under two 300watt equivalent floros. 2700k. Ima go 12/12 & no nutes till she's got a good green on her.

Curious hunch. I'm making my lights go on during my hours of sleep & they will go off during the day. I do this to keep the temps in my grow room as low as possible. Or stable so she does not under go any shock due to high temps. So im guessing my girl should be a bit used to hot temps after all that hot sun that burned her for a good while outside. Right? Or wrong it's just a hunch
 

Smokey95033

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Wait I'm kinda lost. They are inside already or what? There is no getting used to the temp for a plant, it has to do with genetics. Either it can handle it or it can't. If they are inside already and they are fine then awesome. But if they are looking worse then maybe its a more equatorial strain. Keep with everything else, maybe a low dose of nutes and that's it.
 

spiked1

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If I get the right neem oil??? Dude I have Einsteins, I have a goddamn 60$ bottle of it. I also have a straight neem oil. It still isn't a pest control with wetting agent. Wetting agent is a penetrator, and you should be using it with neem no matter what.

You really guarantee that people will see no bugs?? I'll show you some white flies I have that love that shit, hell the gnats go for it too.

I totally agree neem is awesome stuff, I use it weekly (yes, with WARM water and wetting agent. I also throw in some botanicare Karma) but it doesn't do shit for pests. Go do some real research instead of just saying "Well, my shit...".
That is concerning, I haven't used neem oil as I've never had a bug problem apart from fungus gnats that are easy to get rid of.
But I've only heard good things about it, shame it doesn't work for you, I was going to buy some just in case, but not sure if I will now.:-|
 

Smokey95033

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I got this new shit called Dr. Hornby's I think. It's made up up like 50 different essential oils. Totally organic. This stuff is the shit!!! Helps plants with diseases and virus's. But the best part about it, it works on almost every pest out there. It does some shit with their bodies that makes them explode from the inside. I just started using it about two weeks ago, but I would highly recommend it to anyone.
 

Los Ganjales

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If I get the right neem oil??? Dude I have Einsteins, I have a goddamn 60$ bottle of it. I also have a straight neem oil. It still isn't a pest control with wetting agent. Wetting agent is a penetrator, and you should be using it with neem no matter what.

You really guarantee that people will see no bugs?? I'll show you some white flies I have that love that shit, hell the gnats go for it too.

I totally agree neem is awesome stuff, I use it weekly (yes, with WARM water and wetting agent. I also throw in some botanicare Karma) but it doesn't do shit for pests. Go do some real research instead of just saying "Well, my shit...".
Don't be so harsh. I'm growing outdoors and bringing plants indoors, and only have to do 4-5 light treatments of neem oil in the plants life and I'll have no bugs. Einstein's Neem Oil is TOTALLY a pest control product with the wetting agent. All the wetting agent does is make the stuff stick to the leaves.

You want me to do research (and insult my intelligence?)
"Einstein Oil
A popular leaf shine, Einstein Oil contains the finest quality, first extraction, cold-pressed neem oil. It is also enhanced with several other potent herbal ingredients to keep leaves clean and plants healthy. All ingredients are 100% non-toxic. Mix 1/2 - 2 tsp. per quart of water and apply as a foliar spray.

Warning: Neem oil will interfere with an insect's ability to molt. If a growing insect is not able to molt, it will not reach sexual maturity and will therefore be unable to mate and reproduce. This means that within a few life cycles, all the insects (including beneficial insects) will die of old age and there will be no more eggs left to hatch.
" - Planet Natural

If this persons leaves are degrading in quality, and there's a pest problem... Einstein's Neem Oil fixed all of those problems for me, was guarenteed by the people at my local grow store, is what all of the local growers I know use, and I can vouch from personal experience that the Neem Oil does wonders. And $60 for a bottle? Cmon, I paid $19.95 and that's a little over priced. Planet Natural has it for $18.50.

And Smokey, you're in another thread trying to tell me my plants a male when it's not. I don't value what you have to say, so please deter your comments from me and I'll do likewise.
 

Los Ganjales

Active Member
So I decide to put my girl back indoors so she's under two 300watt equivalent floros. 2700k. Ima go 12/12 & no nutes till she's got a good green on her.

Curious hunch. I'm making my lights go on during my hours of sleep & they will go off during the day. I do this to keep the temps in my grow room as low as possible. Or stable so she does not under go any shock due to high temps. So im guessing my girl should be a bit used to hot temps after all that hot sun that burned her for a good while outside. Right? Or wrong it's just a hunch
Sounds like a safe plan.


Smokey, you misunderstood my message and that's unfortunate for you. I'm sure the Hornsby stuff is working out for you. To each, their own. Learn to not be such a prick.
 
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