In House Genetics Thread

[medidedicated]

Weird bud structure might be foxtailint or just way it is as its every bud. Rub the hash leaf and its this instant bonding between skin and leaf. Usually a hashy strain trait but this could be a bad pheno. Ive seen 15% to 7% between two phenos before so that answered my question if its a pheno thing.

Super peppery zesty like lazanga pizza and salsa. Just whatever they use to make that classic italian zest. With a sweet floral not fruit background.

 

[medidedicated]

Oh ya was gonna say when I had a bad herm from exotic it was just with no doubt not a keeper. Just balls and nanners everywhere every nug. Brown viable seeds popping out everywhere. The other strain from greenhouse ran a new pheno first was keeper but that round idk.

Saw some balls but went away after week 3 flower but the exotic was such a bad herm idk if the green house hermed or not aside from that. I get sterile sacs nanners and people talk about sterile nanners all the time in some of their keepers.

It seeded tho really bad even worse but the box fan was pointed in its direction. So the fan blew pollen from exotic to green house so I dont run two unknowns same tent anymore. This however isnt nearly as bad infact its doing better than my watermelon the first run from seed.

If flower rosin yield isnt at least 20% its not worth it. Has to be better than what I got including bud yield or it evens out to be same thing but harder. Because I already know my watermelon and what it will do. It started at 20% yield and 7-8oz per plant but both of those can be much lower as time goes on getting to know her.

So I wont really know what somethings made of until I waste or invested the time into it. Best done at the end when Im stashed up and lookin to mess around.

 

[medidedicated]

Im pretty sure if there only a few seeds in it I can still press it and dab it just fine. I cant see any suddenly so that means it was just a few that I just so happen to find all at once.

Its not that the calyx is hiding them aside from it can but the ones I saw were sticking out and just thought it was worse than it was. I still havent found the source.

 

[medidedicated]

So far no seeds so its smokable and pressable. Just a little squeek of herming. Not a keeper pheno for me the flower rosin yield 8.5% I was hunting for 27% one said it did them. Shit I might try again I just forgot what I wanted. Im gonna add a screen shot of a pheno someone got on reddit its what I was hoping for. Just looks like itll do the job.

I smoked some it aint bad a lil harsh but normal for no cure sometimes could be smoother. This twiggy and was nowhere near done so considering that. I know it should show its hash potential by now 8 wks complete so I pressed it. Doubt it will do any better maybe smoke better but thats it.

Peppercorn zesty smell but just a typicall bud smoke for taste I cant taste much. A bit green. Maybe its the type to smoothen out much more and double the smell and taste if to cure. I dont want those strains tho as Il feel like shit if I miss the cure window. Which sometimes involves waking up at 3am to check if time to jar.

I just smash and dab and like stuff that will smoke fine dried brittle. Maybe still jar some and see if it cures and not complicate things just making it as smooth as possible before giving away. I lost a half oz rosin this run with light performing clones so Il keep this harvest to my self and make a quater oz back. Its good dabs.

Im thinking masterpiece for my next run or the run after that. I just aint used to dedicating only to toss a pheno but thats how it goes. Yea I got a slight herm but breeders are learning fems can do that. I would get regs if I could. This can happen, so what and its actually a keepable harvest which encourages me to try again.

 

[Bodyne]

I got a hold of some well grown buttermilk biscuits, I think I’m looking for some of those beans

 

[medidedicated]

Jellysickle IHG 9.5 wks could go 10 but scrapping today. The rosin yield isnt the one. I decided to just stash up real quick then run the whole pack of jellysickle. Then need to take a break electric bill crazy high.

 

[medidedicated]

So yea if not speaking too soon I didnt see any seeds. Until I got to a couple branches literally that had so/so level seeding bigger seeds. Bigger seeds easier to sieve out but the tiny hermi seeds if you know you know, they are the worst for smoking. You wont get em out.

On other hand should be fine for extracts, not enough seed oil to taint the rosin. Hell I saw products like that on shelf at store at one point its so common. The commercial growers Im sure still use it for extracts. Well bho and bubble rosin wouldnt matter I guess cause they dont do flower rosin.

Ive been dabbin it just fine, a couple clones did it last run to my suprise first time. I concluded if its seeded just press it and see if its harsh tears up your throat. It could be a long term thing youd notice but I just dabbed 21gs of it and my throat is fine.

It wasnt ok when I got a couple phenos that seeded bad, big viable seeds ready to germinate. One pheno I couldnt dab it and the other wasnt as bad. So thats where Im at with seeds. My main pheno seeded from seed but not viable but bigger sized seeds but it didnt hurt to dab that 21g batch.

So I dont think this one is trash. Its similar to what I saw one say on reddit. Hell reddit be helping me review stuff idk I guess they just pull up easier than a forum. They were asked if saw herms they said they didnt see any sacs nanners but one of their plants seeded a little bit but nothing major.

Mine is like that just localized 2 branches probably because I got suprior air flow so they blow away from buds. Funny I guess thats a new way to look at seeding. It blows a load and depending when it happened, determines the results. So it squirted a little but as more pistols came out it just kept doing its thing no seeds.

I didnt see ANY sacs nanners trimming the whole plant.

 

[medidedicated]

So yea theres the tiny tiny hermi seeds that dont shed oil, then theres bigger unciable seeds same thing, then big fat viable seeds ready to germinate that dump seed oil. Thats how they make lotions and etc, they press the seeds. So youre dabbing that potentially.

My clone of long time from seed had medium unviable seeds but was ok to dab. Then didnt seed since taking 1st gen clones and on. Then this harvest a couple clones had the mini hermi seeds tiny tiny.

This jellysickle is the medium unviable seeds maybe some viables but its only on two branches. Just to clarify as my posts are all over the place as usual.

 

[RSTXVIII]

Divine storm grown in 2020

 

[morugawelder]

Anyone out there snag a pack off of IHG new drop ? IF so what caught your eye ?

 

[medidedicated]

8% yielder just about. About to press the whole plant should get a good 10gs out of her. Which Id appreciate and the flavor is killer. Id love to have a 27% yield of this if its not just a wild accident to someone.

In my search it says just because one person has it doesnt mean I will get it even if I hunt for it but thats just chat gpt. I didnt think ai was useful till I tried that one but still just info to be considered. Its helped a lot so far.

Anyway the taste is this zesty peppercorn grape jam with some foulness to it but in a good way. I actually really, really like it. I am potentially losing my main pheno so I cant really hunt, need something as good as what I had before looking for something better than average.

When I do have it though Id love to use some flood trays and hunt through a couple packs IHG when I get the chance. Wont be too long.

 

[medidedicated]

Jaw dropped as the numbers coming in. 161.5gs or 5.76oz which is pretty damn good. They weigh heavier than my main pheno I work with clearly. With just some more veg and canopy skills could do 7-8. Which means I could get a pheno that yields even more. Thats what would out compete my main pheno.

Its not always about return but also flower yield. Just as I started realizing how to run my mothers and clones I may of lost my pheno, we will see. My pheno does 7-8oz and 20% rosin until it started dropping probably from taking cuts off the worst clone. Up till all I possibly have now is surpressed genes already hopefully not.

So with those yields I cant complain. But if this jelly sickle did 27% and 7-8oz bud, oof. Thats a unicorn pretty much. Thats the next level.

 

[medidedicated]

As for smoke, it was needed to cure for sure type smoke. I jarred some but likely past the cure window and dried it hot and dry but dont do that no more. Some strains still smoked fine but this one could cure. It was a little better after two weeks jar but still so/so in harshness.

This quarter is within jar window as its easier to catch when its truely 60/60 and not 65/60 or 70/60. Every degree matters. 11 day dry this plant was. Wet trimmed and dry herb shelved de-nugged and still took 11 days.

So going to touch on curing skills and gift to family as its been a while. Will report if its a cure strain or if I messed up still or its just harsh. Ive had that like my main pheno she wont cure and tried several times. Last attempt this jellysickle my fam said smelled like wet dog. It was a premature sample too.

Well lastly I really didnt see any seeds. Little bit here and there but nothing detrimental and then a branch that had some heavy seeding but I didnt see it processing it it was so minor.

 

[medidedicated]

Im a cyborg grower. Half human half AI. Its helped me decide to grow 15-20 masterpiece phenos for that hash makers dream cut. Im on the hunt. I just bought two more MP packs of 6. For the 60 per pack too NASC I got lucky got the last two left. IHG baby! My first real hunt.

 

[medidedicated]

This what I mean. So theres sugar cane and materpiece. The sugar cane bud pic says sugarcane in back ground. Screen shots of users growing it out, the best ones I found.

So the SC is described as huge extract yields but the MP is a hash makers dream. So I need help interpreting things sometimes let a lone as nuanced as finding what you want in this industry. Its full of stuff that seem like the one but words mean things.

So Id have chatgpt break it down for me and found Ive been looking at the wrong things. Or its not really a selected trait that fem seeds can provide in one pack but more than a few. The jellysickle is selected for frost, color for bag appeal with the occasional unicorn in my own words.

Im still learning and solidifying my understanding of it. But yea. I got a pack of SC but this MP likely is better. That reg seeds are really a open pollination f1 with more in the gene pool. Kinda a good thing for fem seeds for me if you want a shot at finding it. I got 17 seeds lets go crazy with them 5 at a time.

I really didnt know about this its like growing as a beginner all over again since I just did clones. Now that Im in a runt I got caught up a bit on fems vs regulars and few other things. So Im over the dud I had its just one plant and it did ok herm wise so Im willing to risk it a bit and cut to the chase. It was the most minor herm I ever had, the jellysicle.

 

[medidedicated]

Dang I got it to tell me conflicting info for once like the lesser great ai’s out there. That the sugar cane is actually potentially easier to find the pheno. Idk lol this stressful can see why I was suggested to run my clone for long as possible. Im up for it though.

The lesser ai’s were just too flawed was fustrating me so I quit using it but then tried chat gpt. The lesser ai’s was helpful and helped me solve some issues but gpt had a better feel to it. You can continue the convo too and ask it to explain itself or correct itself with new info if you help it.

If it gets the cross wrong etc it dramatically fixes itself and provides better info. This one is conflicting tho idk I dont pay for it so when browser refreshes I lose the convo.

Its helped a lot though like wow Ive been looking at it wrong. Of course breeders hype or out right lie. if I can find a cultivar and just get to know how they word things and just stick with them.. I got several IHG strains. So Il be active here for a bit.

I was struggling to find what I want like come on; review based isnt the way to go? How does everyone know what to buy then? Lol just lots of things to learn. Whats harder is I do flower rosin so breeders will only say at most like yea this washes at x% but not the rosin yield and never flower rosin. They just dont breed for it.

I been doin this a while and got to say with the right pheno flower rosin is a whole beauty to behold. Tastes amazing, potent and yields, whats so wrong with it? Im not just looking for the quickest way to call myself a hashmaker, I really love every part about it more than hash rosin.

Its rediculous how much less you get unless you find a real double unicorn that the bubble yields 85% too. Only to still fall short for the same size grow if you just did flower rosin. You get used to the slightly less zing and flavor but tolerance makes me not even feel the difference after a few dabs.

Jellysickle, masterpiece and sugarcane for sure, then want to see what this black cherry pie f4 is all about, not the f5. So that means stability if I learned anything. Fems on top of that. Im going grow happy, its time to find new genetics, mine even if recovered is about to go MIA.

 

[medidedicated]

Ahh so it wasnt conflicting Im just not keeping up. Got lots to learn. I asked it again and it stands by what it said and explained slurricane is less varying in phenos. That cap junky has more but if I want elite level stuff to go with masterpiece but pop as many beans like 10-20 for best odds. I got 17 considering 15 should make it.

That slurricane #7 is like the gmo of slurricanes was hunted vastly. Capjunky btw capulators best solvelntless, easier to find in seed vs slurri #7. So im on the right track. Masterpiece baby, its a masterpiece. And Im in the hunt for it.

This AI is killin it its like a grow buddy tool. This would of taken a lot to explain to me instead I just come when Im ready for more complex info.

 

[medidedicated]

They just go toe to toe or however they say, theyre both so good you got to really sipher the diff between the two. Heres a little summery it gave me. Of course just a grain of salt but this the best help Ive gotten to find the one. I was buying strains that just were not setting me up for success.

Then I started buying on reviews but thats not quite the full process. Got to know the genetic process too. The sugarcane pics back a couple pages look pretty good. I deff got a dud on that jelly sickle isnt that platinum x jelly breath.. I knew it lacked hash just looking at it.

Im dropping a whole pack Masterpiece in a week or two since idk them, help buffer so my perpetual line up continues smoothly.

 

[medidedicated]

Damn see so I naturally am asking if cap junky is just a better bet but thats how funny it is. First of all parents dont translate to direct performance just have to expand on what I know now. Its case by case basis every pheno unique.

But even if I wanted it, its just like gmo. Clone only and heavily guarded I got to go beyond what Ive only done. Which is get seeds from the bank. Its just unobtainable. Imagine having something like that in your grow, people wanting cuts like crazy. I wouldnt sell cuts Id give them to kind new friends no high traffic conflict interest type thing like folks do here.

Anyway it says capjunky the best of it is just what Im looking at packed in this strain here. Alright, talkin yalls ear off with my hash cronicles. Il be back with 5-6 seedlings. And again in flower.

 

[medidedicated]

So attitude change the pics and description I see that sometimes not limited to them I think. I wonder why. The photos it took down one photo and put new ones up that dont look quite as good. They removed the description, I wonder if they change it if enough feedback suggests its not a hash makers dream like they say idk.

Worries me a bit but those were photos I showed of other peoples grow. Idk what one of them did for numbers but the other seems like a personal grow trying out a seed or two.

Im just after that frost monster they keep showing for suger cane, masterpiece and slurricane #7 s1 fems. Especially the dried flower looking like super glue. Im thinking of getting me a 12 pack hoping for one keeper as close to the real #7 as possible.

Im still dedicated to masterpiece, IHG in general. With these strains I should be able to supply myself just enough to break even. Meaning just enough stash to make it to next harvest. Or slightly better if a few phenos do ok. Basically Im growing from seed again until I get that cashcow.

Anyone grow the #7? I think it looks better than the #44 but that one appears to sell out and price higher. I see quickly some awesome phenos of #7 so its passing the home grower test.