you don't want to use a mixer. a mixer breaks up the plant matter. you want a "gentle aggitation" to knock the trichs off. when frozen they snap off their stems. we use specifically sized bags. if you have plant matter that is the EXACT same size as the trich heads then yes, you will capture it. otherwise it will either be caught by the bag before it it or pass thru to the waste bucket.
I'm not *ucking around making hash (reloaded)
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you don't want to use a mixer. a mixer breaks up the plant matter. you want a "gentle aggitation" to knock the trichs off. when frozen they snap off their stems. we use specifically sized bags. if you have plant matter that is the EXACT same size as the trich heads then yes, you will capture it. otherwise it will either be caught by the bag before it it or pass thru to the waste bucket.
RickWhite
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The mud mixer is for those who are using a 5gal bucket.I go to great lengths to grow as fine a weed as I can using organic soil & fertilizers. I would rather not use chemicals if possible.
I can't comment on the comparison between bubble & butane because I've not tried both from the same buds. Maybe fdd can speak on it.
However the only by-product of this process is some washed-out weed & ice water! I didn't invent bubble hash, it's been around for a few years. Your going to have to show me the extra benefit to using more than ice & water!
If I wanted to spend 20 minutes standing over a bucket with a drill motor & would not have ordered the Doper. I spent that time with my feet up & beer in my hand, no room for a drill!
Peace
doublejj
Forget about how you feel about chemicals for the moment - I am formally trained in the proper techniques, so chemicals aren't an issue for me.
I'm trying to figure out what kind of end product you are getting from the bubble bags.
Would you say it is comparable to bud, a notch below or a notch above. My gut tells me that while significantly stronger than the leaves it is probably a lot less potent than bud. Can you give me an idea? Is it one hitter or do you need to smoke a half gram to get high?
it's 10X stronger than bud.
when you start with 100 grams of bud and end up with 10 grams of hash it is 10x stonger.
i have a microscope, i showed you pics. shall i send you a sample or what?
RickWhite
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That is a good tip. A variable speed drill on low speed should do it. One could even be fastened to something so you don't have to hold it.
I wonder if the freezing keeps the plant matter from becoming too fine. I'm also wondering how much THC is left behind.
you should make some.
they sell it here at the clubs for up to 30 a gram. it can knock you out for the afternoon with 2 hits. take little hits, it "expands".
i'm pretty sure surface trichs are left behind. the ones that are actually wart like. i think a chemical flush may get more of these. bubble hash focuses mainly on the fat, swollen, stalked glands. i have wanted to try redrying my bubble trim and running it thru a chemical extraction processes. just to see. i haven't done it yet though.
RickWhite
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Using buds you will obviously get a more potent product but you have to figure in efficiency. At 100% efficiency and 100% puity you would have a 10 X increase. At 50% and 50% you would have 2.5 X (off the top of my head.)it's 10X stronger than bud.
when you start with 100 grams of bud and end up with 10 grams of hash it is 10x stonger.
i have a microscope, i showed you pics. shall i send you a sample or what?
I have seen butane extractions pull 6g from 36g of premium bud. That is a 6X increase.
The chunk you are showing does look impressive. What did that sucker weigh?
i get 10%+ back. 1000 grams of trim gets me about 110 grams of bubble hash. plus or minus a few grams. when i look at it under the microscope it looks like fish eggs before it dries.
OregonMeds
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5lbs of bud has a significant value though, more than the hash, and is easier to smoke than the hash.
Doesn't it kind of make you sick to process it all down like that and loose so much? Did you just compost the rest of it or re-use it for cooking?
Doesn't it kind of make you sick to process it all down like that and loose so much? Did you just compost the rest of it or re-use it for cooking?
grape swisha
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he just used trim to make it
doublejj
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I believe both fdd & I use bud trimmings not buds. This is made from the trim after harvest. Bonus crop! This was waste material, re-claimed!
Peace
doublejj
OregonMeds
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Ah I missed that word. OK makes sense now.
doublejj
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One more comment.
Unlike chemical extraction which involves flammable liquids and requires a good bit of guts (fdd) or specific training (RickWhite) to accomplish, this process only requires the skills necessary to do a load of laundry & dump the trash. It's Woman's Work!
Peace
doublejj
P.S. Please Lord, don't let my wife read this post!
Unlike chemical extraction which involves flammable liquids and requires a good bit of guts (fdd) or specific training (RickWhite) to accomplish, this process only requires the skills necessary to do a load of laundry & dump the trash. It's Woman's Work!
Peace
doublejj
P.S. Please Lord, don't let my wife read this post!
RickWhite
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The chemical stuff isn't as bad as it sounds if you understand what is going on. Really, all you need to do a good safe extraction is some pure isopropyl and a still you can buy of ebay. Or for small amounts you can just put it in Pyrex and evaporate it off. As long as you leave it stand over night, there will not be any alcohol left.
At any rate, the bubble hash shown looks very pure. But, it is tough to know how much is being left behind. The butane extraction I have seen pulled 17% but how much it would pull from your starting material may be different. The only way to know for sure is to try both with the same starting material. I do have to say though, that is pretty impressive for such a crude method. I am surprised to see such a pure product.
At any rate, the bubble hash shown looks very pure. But, it is tough to know how much is being left behind. The butane extraction I have seen pulled 17% but how much it would pull from your starting material may be different. The only way to know for sure is to try both with the same starting material. I do have to say though, that is pretty impressive for such a crude method. I am surprised to see such a pure product.
OregonMeds
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I have a bunch of popcorn nugs I just threw in the blender to compact it all down with the intention I'd just cook with it, but now I'm thinking maybe I should get more hash out of that first. Since I blended it at room temp and probably turned most of the trich's to dust would chemical extraction be the way to go if I wanted to try it or should I not bother now?
I ended up with a regular sized mayonnaise jar packed full and not a leaf or a stem went into it. Should be pretty decent stuff in there.
I ended up with a regular sized mayonnaise jar packed full and not a leaf or a stem went into it. Should be pretty decent stuff in there.
RickWhite
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Oregon, look into butane extraction. It is a great method for small batches. The great thing about butane is if you use good clean butane it's hard to have any residule as it boils at such a low temp.
Or, get some 99% isopropyl, freeze your bud and then fill the jar with the iso and shake for a while. Then pour into a Pyrex dish and gently evaporate the iso. I found placing the Pyrex on top of a boiling pot of water (or other mild non-flame heat source) works well. Do NOT let it spill on the burner! Once done remove from heat and let stand over night. The next day, you will have good oil. To make hash just warm the oil to liquid and add in some powdered bud smashing it in with a spoon until hard.
Or, get some 99% isopropyl, freeze your bud and then fill the jar with the iso and shake for a while. Then pour into a Pyrex dish and gently evaporate the iso. I found placing the Pyrex on top of a boiling pot of water (or other mild non-flame heat source) works well. Do NOT let it spill on the burner! Once done remove from heat and let stand over night. The next day, you will have good oil. To make hash just warm the oil to liquid and add in some powdered bud smashing it in with a spoon until hard.
SmokeyMcChokey
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good lord fdd. what the hell do you with all that hash. a couple hundred grams here and a couple hundred grams there. i woulg be retarded high by 6:30 every morning
