im know a felon :(

SnapsProvolone said:

May not be a model of a modern major general, however doing time rarely makes anyone a better person when they are released. Just saying... gotta think further than the first move.

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What's the alternative? Letting immature punks ride around with weapons they shouldn't have? Why do you need a weapon to go get clothes anyway? This guy and his cousins are the reason why the government is slowly eroding my right to bear arms. I agree that doing time rarely makes somebody a better person but what alternative does society have to deal with people that have such poor decision making skills other than to separate them from the public? Stupid shit like this is exactly how innocent people are killed so I have absolutely no sympathy and think him and his cousins should be locked up. They'll get the message after the first raping or two.

get a real attorney, have him enter a motion to have the guns finger printed, and hopefully yours aren't on it

chambray7 said:

hempy i wish i had 5gs to get lawyer but i dnt unfortenitly

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Do you have a credit card? Some attorneys accept payment plans. I'm going to be honest from the sound of things you are in some deep shit mane but its not the end of the world. Call around find an attorney that specializes in criminal defense and schedule a free consultation. Picking an attorney is as important as picking a spouse. Get a feel for the and go with someone you feel comfortable with and that will fight for you. Best of luck.

ClaytonBigsby said:

Have you talked to them since it happened? THEY should eb paying for your attorney, and not some cheapo. You want a good attorney. If they aren;t willing to pay for it, and they put the charges on you, hell yes, feel free to give them up.

Now, answer these questions:

1. Who car?
2. How old are your cousins?
3. I know the police asked you about the guns and drugs after pulling you out at gunpoint. What did you say to them?

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havnt had contact withe neither of them so dimes it is but just now im no snitch just puttin it on them
1.my cousin vics car
2.19 & 23
3. they didnt give a chance too talk i said i dnt know who guns they are

BigEasy1 said:

What's the alternative? Letting immature punks ride around with weapons they shouldn't have? Why do you need a weapon to go get clothes anyway? This guy and his cousins are the reason why the government is slowly eroding my right to bear arms. I agree that doing time rarely makes somebody a better person but what alternative does society have to deal with people that have such poor decision making skills other than to separate them from the public? Stupid shit like this is exactly how innocent people are killed so I have absolutely no sympathy and think him and his cousins should be locked up. They'll get the message after the first raping or two.

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Sounds like you want first crack AAAAAHHHHH see what I did there? I slay myself

BigEasy1 said:

What's the alternative? Letting immature punks ride around with weapons they shouldn't have? Why do you need a weapon to go get clothes anyway? This guy and his cousins are the reason why the government is slowly eroding my right to bear arms. I agree that doing time rarely makes somebody a better person but what alternative does society have to deal with people that have such poor decision making skills other than to separate them from the public? Stupid shit like this is exactly how innocent people are killed so I have absolutely no sympathy and think him and his cousins should be locked up. They'll get the message after the first raping or two.

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why do people need to carry guns in walmart or mickey d'
i ccw my guns foor safety reason not to rob dumbass

mempy no credit card tho im going to look into free consultations with great lawyers

BigEasy1 said:

What's the alternative? Letting immature punks ride around with weapons they shouldn't have? Why do you need a weapon to go get clothes anyway? This guy and his cousins are the reason why the government is slowly eroding my right to bear arms. I agree that doing time rarely makes somebody a better person but what alternative does society have to deal with people that have such poor decision making skills other than to separate them from the public? Stupid shit like this is exactly how innocent people are killed so I have absolutely no sympathy and think him and his cousins should be locked up. They'll get the message after the first raping or two.

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My point is that unless given a life sentence, sooner or later the general public will be seeing them in circulation. After prison, many tend to come out a bigger threat to society than before they went in. IF a youth can be diverted successfully it can save the taxpayers in the long run.

ClaytonBigsby said:

Take it easy, BigEasy. Can you not see this kid is scared, and wants to start college in a few weeks? Sometimes arrests like this are the best eye openers and life changers. If he can beat this, he has a chance to know he doesn;t want to ever be in these shoes again and can be a productive member of society.

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I just don't have any sympathy for punks trying to live out one of their stupid rap songs. If he was going to get his shit together he'd have done it before getting in a car with minors in possession of drugs and an illegal firearm. That's just my opinion.

chambray7 said:

havnt had contact withe neither of them so dimes it is but just now im no snitch just puttin it on them
1.my cousin vics car
2.19 & 23
3. they didnt give a chance too talk i said i dnt know who guns they are

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Ok, you not very good at following directions, so I will try to keep it easy.

Sounds like you are not in much trouble. The car was your cousins, the guns can easily be argued to belong to the car's owner, especially since they ran away. If your prints were not on the guns, you have about zero to worry about. I would see what the public defender has to say. He can tell you exactly what evidence the police have against you. If the police want to question you, do NOT talk to them without a lawyer! I would tell your lawyer you met these two yahoos at the 7-11 and they said they could score some weed for you so you guys jumped in the car. The police will probably think they were going to rob you and feel like they saved your lives.

Relax for now, talk to your laywer and see what evidence they have, plead NOT GUILTY for now. You have all kinds of time for discovery and motions to supress evidence, etc.

chambray7 said:

why do people need to carry guns in walmart or mickey d'
i ccw my guns foor safety reason not to rob dumbass

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So you have a CCW permit?

This threads a fawkin trainwreck LOL

you know big eazy i dnt want your adice i hear were your comin from
im notlivin a rap song its everyday like this where im at
n the minors are my cousin aret even minors

BigEasy1 said:

I just don't have any sympathy for punks trying to live out one of their stupid rap songs. If he was going to get his shit together he'd have done it before getting in a car with minors in possession of drugs and an illegal firearm. That's just my opinion.

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I couldn;t agree more with you on the punk banger wannabes. I just don;t think this guy is one of them. Now a second offense? That's not bad luck, that's guilty by association. Bernie Goetz is one of my heroes. I think the cousins should be doing time.

chambray7 said:

why do people need to carry guns in walmart or mickey d'
i ccw my guns foor safety reason not to rob dumbass

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Listen son,
You had better wise up and start speaking proper english if you want help either here or in court.
The court system is all about money.
They will bleed you more than that expensive lawyer.
Guns and drugs in court......
The state of Az will be profiting from this arrest.

hempyninja309 said:

This threads a fawkin trainwreck LOL

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Agreed.

BTW - an attorney won't pull discovery papers until retained. Until they have discovery they don't know what they might be able to make happen in your favor. Wotk on earning up some bucks gorv an attorney.

If you have been strappin without a permit just stop it.

SnapsProvolone said:

My point is that unless given a life sentence, sooner or later the general public will be seeing them in circulation. After prison, many tend to come out a bigger threat to society than before they went in. IF a youth can be diverted successfully it can save the taxpayers in the long run.

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I agree but when released he will most likely be relegated to the fringes of society. I think the key here is what was the intent for having the illegal weapon on that night in particular and why wasn't the weapon obtained legally? We will never know the truth because at this point it's about gaming the system for lesser charges.

Nutes and Nugs said:

Listen son,
You had better wise up and start speaking proper english if you want help either here or in court.
The court system is all about money.
They will bleed you more than that expensive lawyer.
Guns and drugs in court......
The state of Az will be profiting from this arrest.

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Calling him son is just a cunt hair better than boy. No need to be condescending.

BigEasy1 said:

I agree but when released he will most likely be relegated to the fringes of society.

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There is no such place, that's just retarded.

SnapsProvolone said:

The degree of hell you are in will have a lot to do with the quality of your attorney.

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What this guy said ^^^ lawyer up and shut up.. Your cousins are good for nothin how's be gonna book it out of his own car or was tha stolen too???? Isn't it registered to him/where he lives they'll bust his chops in the end but your gonna get fucked too for being in the car tsk tsk tsk you shoulda know better. Guilt by association