giantsfan24
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I was thinking about you this morning and wondering where you'd gone. Hope you're feeling better @littlejacob
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Hybridway
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I love my Amare. I feel like the plants grow to their maximum ability under it. It's wild to see. I have mine running next to a Hydroponics Hut which by the way is doing well but nothing like the Amare SE-450. After mad studying I feel like Amares one of the best even know they're fairly new to the game. I've never seen such growth as I do with it. Haven't finished a flower out yet but the growth tells me it's going to do real well.
Hybridway
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Amare, Fluence Bio, or the Sun-Cloak for Vert. My favorites!
Hybridway
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What are you using. I'm running the Amare SE-450 against a Hydropinics Hut X5-500. Both incorporate this years technology. HH did something different by accomplishing their desired spectrum with primarily one chip instead of using different colored monos that would have to mix on the way down. Both have COBs surrounded by 5 watters. The Amare is doing better but I bet the HH is better then allot out there. The other light I'm using is the SunCloak 4416. It's a vertical blade light with 3 alleys of light & plants in between. All 3 I consider to be the newest tech. In LED grow lights. The HH is a secret light with little disclosed so I got it just to see if claims could be met. All 3 are my first LED & are now running 12, O.C. GG#4's. Buying my first means seeing what I want to fill my big LED room so I tried 3. I wish I had purchased the Fluence Bio SpyderXPlus instead of the HH as I think the SC, Amare, & BML/Fluence all have there place in my room, each for a different strain & grow technique.
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ThaMagnificent
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Would I need 2 for a 4x8? I'm running 2 separate Aero systems in 1 tent
Joe T Vanelli
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Hey
I just saw the HLG-120H-C1050, should be ok!?
Hybridway
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Aeropononics? Are you growing all the way through that way? I wanted to try that with a homemade system. Do you use a chiller, circulating Rez.? I know a guy who did real well flowering this way. Yea, 2 SolarEclipse-450's would work great. Mine covers the 4'x4' with ease. I like the option to remove or use the lenses. With the lenses on you'll want to be about 30-34" off the canopy for the spread. W/O lenses you can get pretty close & still maintain your footprint & have happy plants. With any light, you'll want plenty of air circulation & a way to cool the tent. The very smallest AC, widow or stand-up has no problem cooling my 1600watts of LED that takes up a 4'x8' & a separate 4'x4' in the same room. Contact Victor at Amare, he's a pleasure to work with & a straight up dude. He will answer your questions honestly.
ThaMagnificent
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im doing stinkbud method. Its super easy and diy
TimoteoPT
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Hey everyone, today i came across with this: http://noribachi.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/NHS09_v1.pdf
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
MCOB
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Is there a reason you are promoting Amare? I noticed their prices are rather high... Their spectrum has no UV and low 660. Blue and red provide plants with most of what they need anyways. The rest is extra heat output. It is like using a HID/HPS etc which aren't specific nor efficient for growing plants.
550W LED vs 1000W HPS
http://www.cobgrowlights.com/blogs/news/77794757-growthstar-scorpion-cob-grow-light-trial-enters-final-weeks-notes-from-3rd-party-cultivator
http://www.cobgrowlights.com/blogs/news/77893445-cob-led-grow-light-review-grow-guide
Why are you even giving advice?
I just looked at https://www.amaretechnologies.com/ which costs 2-3x more than the ones on cobgrowlights.com and are less efficient.
I am laughing. Too funny... On Amare's website It says 320-390 is important but the have none! Perhaps you should tell them to remove that.
They also have a lot of FAR red which is bad (over 700nm cancels 660nm)
Look at this! They think their spectral analysis are good?
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0875/3078/files/McCree-Curve_2048x2048.png?17461635838457945400
Send new growers who dont know anything to the website and they might buy. But overall it isn't something I would use as a LED user for many years.
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Hybridway
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Hey McCob. I'm glad you like your RQE (Relitive quantum efficency) COB lights. I once believe all that stuff you said prior to buying Led. After studying on PAS (Photosythetic Action Spectrum) & numerous studies (facts, not like Burple hype) I learned the benefits of using the full spectrum.
Have you ever grown big with HPS or did you go straight to Burple? I've been growing big & perpetual with HPS. If you have not then all you know is supplemental HPS lighting (RQE-your COBs). And maybe you're very happy with your results. Ex: I can understand why as BML did prove one can outgrow a DE using the R+B spectrum. But as BML learned more of what our plants need they became FluenceBioengeniering & now offer the Physio spectrum instead of the Grow-Max, while openly admitting their mistake with the R+B Grow-Max Spectrum. Hense the bleached tops of buds from not having full photomorphegenisis. The plants were not fully Photosynthesizing. Check into it. I doubt your COBs are as scientifically invested into Hortricultural as BML/Fluence, no offense. Just saying, these guys are smarter then your average light distributer. Read, it's all finally proven.
So, just because I believed so many claims about R+B panels, I bought one of each. The Amare enhanced white (PAS) & the Hydroponics Hut full spectrum R+B (RQE). The HH does grow great as I'm sure your COBs do. But next to the enhanced white Amare, it's not very impressive but the pinkish light is pleasing to look at & I wanted to believe that select spectrum could indeed outperform the sun itself as HH claimed. But the fact is the Amare quadruples the growth. Just fact bud.
I have no reason to promote Amare. I may have just got a lil excited to share my opinion with someone that may be able to gain from my depth in studying & the willingness to buy both panels to find out for himself. Plus I've grown many a many of pounder plants with my HPS so I know what standard we're trying to meet or exceed while saving energy.
Do you think your lights more efficient because of spectrum or COB efficency stats. If it's the spectrum alone then I'm sorry you still believe these Falacies. Buy an Amare with the great big Yeild you get from the Burple light & do a side by side to see for yourself. When my Yeild off one plant pays for 2-3 lights at once I'm more then happy to spend a lil more for the quality & assurance. I understand it's easy to believe all that stuff. I did to. Sorry I can't play the post a link to my study game. It's everywhere on RIU & is just common-knowledge now.
I'm not in any way knocking you, as I was where you are only 6 months ago. Burple can put out but just not to our girls full potential. Much Love to all the growers. Poeple need good advice about quality lights. To me Burple has a distinct place in my HPS room if I was to buy anymore. Peace!
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REALSTYLES
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@MCOB and @Hybridway Just make a light like mine it's waaayyy!!!!!! better than what you guys are talking about. @Hybridway why even argue with this guy? And when are you gonna make a light?
REALSTYLES
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That is fucking junk you might as well stick with HPS than to use those lights and here is what REAL cobs look like
Hybridway
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Common now REalS. We know your biulds are nice & saving you money & the plants love white COBs (well most of us know) but as far as a commercial light, available for purchase at the push of a button & easy PlugNPlay/Grow, I'd have to say Amare's one of the better ones. If you disagree LMK why?
I'd love to build one myself someday but still don't have the time. I'm just now using LED for the first time as main light, with 3 different commercial. For those that say buying is to expensive, I disagree. Just Harvest n purchase. Just Harvest n purchase. Or, build. Whatever floats your boat.
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David Pasta
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Solar Eclipse SE450 looks great.COB CXB3070 good.The price is good.I miss only 660nm.It would indicate a test.
MCOB
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@Hybridway I see what you are doing on this thread so I will leave you to it.
I'm not opposed to third party endorsements.
When you've tried at least 30 different brands in side by side grow trials for more than 2 years then I would be fine with your 'advice.'
Other than that, for that price, people are better off building their own for 1/5 the cost. I would think that 95% of the people on this forum have a budget that would make them lean more towards the 1/5 price instead. The convenience of having it already built for me is not worth an extra $500+ just saying.
Scientists and theory on grow lights are fine. Use lots of jargon that the average grower (95% of the buyers) don't understand to make it sound good. I just don't like seeing new growers being taken advantage of by things they don't understand or need to understand. It is the same thing with people who sell scammy online marketing services to companies that don't understand it.
I'd be happy to run multiple side by side comparisons with the Amare's to show the extra cost is not worth it.
I'm not opposed to third party endorsements.
When you've tried at least 30 different brands in side by side grow trials for more than 2 years then I would be fine with your 'advice.'
Other than that, for that price, people are better off building their own for 1/5 the cost. I would think that 95% of the people on this forum have a budget that would make them lean more towards the 1/5 price instead. The convenience of having it already built for me is not worth an extra $500+ just saying.
Scientists and theory on grow lights are fine. Use lots of jargon that the average grower (95% of the buyers) don't understand to make it sound good. I just don't like seeing new growers being taken advantage of by things they don't understand or need to understand. It is the same thing with people who sell scammy online marketing services to companies that don't understand it.
I'd be happy to run multiple side by side comparisons with the Amare's to show the extra cost is not worth it.
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