If Weed was 100% legal in the USA

Back in the 60's they assembled us in the gym so we could watch a buddy thinks he can fly flick with a stern narrative voice saying, This could happen to you if you smoke mj. lmao

I dunno, saw the same flick, scared me pretty good at the time!! Problem was that I found out they were LYING!!!, That made me wonder what else they were lying about. The rest is history!!

Not to mention the loss in revenue once people realize food grows just like cannabis!

I think that industries would spring up. Some people would produce biofuel, some would produce archival quality paper, some would produce cellophane, some would produce medicine. Are you enclosing the caveat that it cannot be sold in natural form? Or that no product of the plant can be sold at all? Do you seriously think that the only use of this plant is smoking? We are talking billions of dollars.

All the responses where 100% nation wide legal mj will be this great icon of american freedom & a leap foward for its users is a pipe dream not based on reality.

Right after legalization comes regulation,once the regulators get their say the control & processing of mj will be so highly regulated & costly that anybody wanting to run a mj shop would need unlimited legal resources & funding.

If mj reaches the point of 100% legalization you can bet your life that corporate america allready has a working plan as how to manipulate & monopolize the market,the tobacco industry allready has a functional system in place to monopolize the industry,from both the manufacturing & distribution aspects they have a working business model.

Mj is a carcinogen & would be classified somehow as a tobacco type product,state & federal tax laws would immediately come into play & keep prices at the highest levels consumers are willing to pay.

I agree its just a matter of time before we see nation wide legalization but not for the reasons most believe,it wont be a blessing to users or growers who make profit,big business will insist that the penalties for non taxed distribution networks be as severe as possible,want to see the future for small time grower/distributers simply research the legal penalties for possesion & sale of untaxed tobacco products,the dea crushes people who move untaxed tobacco & the prison sentences are extreme.

I hope we never see legal mj because i know my government will allow big business to monopolize to the point its bad for users.

abandonconflict said:

I think that industries would spring up. Some people would produce biofuel, some would produce archival quality paper, some would produce cellophane, some would produce medicine. Are you enclosing the caveat that it cannot be sold in natural form? Or that no product of the plant can be sold at all? Do you seriously think that the only use of this plant is smoking? We are talking billions of dollars.

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Starting with Richard Lee and a meeting for pre- prop-19 it was obvious that rights for people had to compete with the profit motive.

We once discussed if we should have done it in 2010 or wait for 2012 but with the surge of profits and the rise of large medical MJ trade shows people were blinded and we know what happened. The Feds frightened everyone at the last minute.

Well they have the right to deal with commerce.

So if we can skip dragging that dead weight along for 2014 we just might get someplace.

Now we may not be that smart yet and perhaps we will wait until the "Cannabis Boutique" political movement has enough people meaning many older people have died so, it is a thought exercize.

The basic idea is the we skip commerce language in the next major effort. Stay clear of what is clearly a federal issue of regulating commerce and lets lay down the foundation of the right to grow, have and consume.


So what will the world look like is it is legal to have , grow, and consume and I include not being firred from a job over it.

Can we skip the need to legalize pot money ?

Hell they are even trying to create a drug money banking system before it is legal. It's insane..

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panhead said:

"Mj is a carcinogen & would be classified somehow as a tobacco type product,state & federal tax laws would immediately come into play & keep prices at the highest levels consumers are willing to pay."
"I hope we never see legal mj because i know my government will allow big business to monopolize to the point its bad for users."

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O.K. Pan, sorry but I must address those 2 statements:

Firstly- Cannabis, when ingested or vaped is NOT a known carcinogen. If you have the peer reviewed scientific study results that were completed on those methods, we'd all love to see em.

Secondly- The U.S. Government already IS monopolizing the medical benefits of MJ with U.S. Patent 6630507 entitled “Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants” which is assigned to The United States of America, as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services. They are already trying to license it out to a pharma startup in NY as a DRUG....not a plant that people can grow on thier own.

By legalizing you take away or greatly reduce the monetary value and THAT is a good thing.

i say again - that if big tobacco tries to put additives in weed then we will speak out and resist until they stop or no one buys it..

again - nothing is 100% legal.. skateboards are not illegal, but you cannot strap a puppy to them and roll it into the freeway - therefore the use of skateboards is regulated and the boards themselves need regulation so that they don't snap and kill you..

One thing foresure,,,you don't throw 26 billion dollars in a non-existant drug war without getting a return on your investment,,,,,obama just did that,,,,and if marijuana ever becomes legal it would surprize me,,,,,there is alot more money in it for the people with the money,,,,if it becomes legal ,,,,the money people will be a thing of the past.,,,,and tobacco companies will take it over .....states like ca is also ruining the mj issue for everyone,,,,medical or otherwise.

Aww what did us californians do to you :[

Rtazmann said:

One thing foresure,,,you don't throw 26 billion dollars in a non-existant drug war without getting a return on your investment,,,,,obama just did that,,,,and if marijuana ever becomes legal it would surprize me,,,,,there is alot more money in it for the people with the money,,,,if it becomes legal ,,,,the money people will be a thing of the past.,,,,and tobacco companies will take it over .....states like ca is also ruining the mj issue for everyone,,,,medical or otherwise.

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I have read that sort of doomsday prediction for a few years.

So what if it was 100% legal to grow, consume and have cannabis?

Seems that would get around having to submit to a corporation which is a good thing.

RawBudzski said:

Aww what did us Californians do to you :[

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I understand your point and I am not diverting all responses.

What have we done is the opposite to your counter.. Seems we fell down when it comes to personal liberty except that we do have the optional $100 fine for an ounce or less now in California. .

What have we done? For Legalization.

Never going to happen, not is the US that's for sure. There's far too much at stake with it being illegal.

there is really too much at stake for it not to be legal - trillions of dollars and countless lives lost versus trillions of dollars and countless lives saved..

people are wising up every day! the figures are sloping so that the prohibitionists will be the minority in the USA any second here! more than one out of five states is currently considering regulation..

Ernst said:

Here is a chance to think this through. A Thought Experiment.

Suppose, possibly magically, cannabis becomes 100% legal for people to grow. All aspects are legal except sales.

Now I see the Black Market flooded with weed because now production is wide open.

I see the price of weed falling to reasonable levels for Primo and Schwag is made into inscence.

So now we have people free to have weed.

What would you do then? What does this world look like to you?

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well a bright future where me and the worlds authority figures can get along, also i can switch to nothing but medibles with the big stash ad get growing every where . and can't forget the fuel , cloths and oil that would be as readily available as olive oil . feel bad for those who grow for dispensaries cuz the price would drop.but ad just grow it . ad toss seeds every where , build a machine and strap it to a truck like the salt on the snow trucks and just drive in the bushes in spring

yes, yes, and yes!
we need to put it back into the wild ecosystem - we know now how detrimental each part of the environment is to each other - immediately the birds will sing more, live longer and multiply - what does that do to the rest of the planet? i am not sure.. then it will prevent topsoil erosion which is what happened in "Bang-la-desh" ("Cannabis-Land-People") - they were forced to stop growing hemp and they lost everything to flooding..

as soon as pot is legal in a state they really should start a program to reintroduce it into the wild - like you are saying! everywhere! it should be illegal to remove large quantities like the state flower!

ford442 said:

yes, yes, and yes!
we need to put it back into the wild ecosystem - we know now how detrimental each part of the environment is to each other - immediately the birds will sing more, live longer and multiply - what does that do to the rest of the planet? i am not sure.. then it will prevent topsoil erosion which is what happened in "Bang-la-desh" ("Cannabis-Land-People") - they were forced to stop growing hemp and they lost everything to flooding..

as soon as pot is legal in a state they really should start a program to reintroduce it into the wild - like you are saying! everywhere! it should be illegal to remove large quantities like the state flower!

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Save them seeeds and plant them evewrwhere! LOL good job..

One medium sized plant can produce thousands of seeds! Doesn't have to be any special strain just bag seed plants will do!

That is a good one Ford!
'My Gawd will the Mormons really go nutz

Ernst,,,,in short it should be your decision if you are going to smoke,,,,and no one elses..