Ice wax

lightsoda

Member
can anybody explain to me the exact specification that differentiates the bubble process to create ice wax?? i dont want to just come out with shitty shit so im really asking what the exact detail that turns it to wax, so i can focus hard on that step.
 

vacpurge

New Member
the exact detail is using TONS of primo bud and stir lightly... simple. dont see why matt is considered a god over it!!!

give anyone 5 lbs of AAA material to work with and they can throw it into an ice cold machine, or barely stir it by hand for 10 mins and drain then water, and make a beautiful hash. done.
 

tobinates559

Well-Known Member
the exact detail is using TONS of primo bud and stir lightly... simple. dont see why matt is considered a god over it!!!

give anyone 5 lbs of AAA material to work with and they can throw it into an ice cold machine, or barely stir it by hand for 10 mins and drain then water, and make a beautiful hash. done.
matt just showed everyone how to make perfect hash, idk ive learned alot from his videos and thread
 

Sirdabsalot462

Well-Known Member
It's simply

Good in, Good out...use either really, really high quality trim or bud.

The final product is kind of hard to replicate, as the hash masters, i.e... B.A.M.F from Buds n Roses, Nikka-t from here in Colorado, Essential Extracts, and of course Matt Rize.

I know for a fact B.A.M.F signed up for a6 hour class taught by Nikka, who learned his shit in Amsterdam from hash-masters across the lake.

Personally, I believe the real” trick” they have is NOT the actual extraction process, but more aimed at the drying/curing stage.

Whenever one of these three are asked about drying and curing, they resort to the good ole” trade secrets” defense and never unveil that particular aspect...lol

Notice they all are willing to put out tutorials on the extraction, but NEVER the cure or drying.
 

Sirdabsalot462

Well-Known Member
^ Right after I posted this yesterday, I was curious to see if I could I find any DETAILED info that any 3 of the solventless wizards have released about the specific way they dry/cure.

All three give extremely generic details about drying.

The closest I got was from Nikka.. Who posted a video of him answering questions.
He gave some clues,.but no specifics.

” Dry time is usually 5-7 days, but the more oily the extract, the longer it will take.”
” We want to remove the water as quickly as possible for terpene/scent retention.”
He mentions leaving it on material that will” wick” moisture away, but never specifies that material, I'm guessing cardboard, maybe parchment paper, possibly the matt you get when you buy a set of Essential Extract bubble bags...I simply don't know.
He did mention...

The environment for drying should be dark, less than 68° F, with lots of air flow (fans?), and humidity levels are best set around 15%-30%..definitely below 50% or possible mold.

Curing does happen in a glass air tight jar, after the hash is bone dry.

I'm gonna try to find out a little more, but I think this is most he has released publicly.
 

Thundercat

Well-Known Member
I was just getting ready to post a link vacpurge :). The thing that i love about frenchy inparticular is the level of respect he has for the tradition behind hashish, along with his desire to learn new techniques. Hash is a very very old product, and there is alot to be learned from the past!
 

Sirdabsalot462

Well-Known Member
Dammit Vac purge, you linked me to a fantastic, loooonnnggg ass thread. HahaI'm going to read the whole thing, see y'all in a couple days...lol.
 

vacpurge

New Member
yup that ones a true gem, I read most of it and my IQ was higher at the end of the night. I learned like 10 new things and actually retained them!!!! those guys are some old boys who have been doing this since the 70s. theyve forgotten more than rize and these other guys even know!! their knowledge and experience is priceless. I would LOVE to sit down and have a talk with some of those guys and check out their stash and watch them make it... would be a dream come true and im not even a hash guy!!!! some of the places/hash theyve seen and the stories they got you could write a book on. major respect for everyone in subcools cannoli hash thread!!!
 
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