ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

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Boulder Dankness

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Hey mantis how long did you agitate for? I just ran my first batch in the small machine of some dank fresh frozen sugarleaf, and my hash came out green. I can't figure out what I did wrong! I used 112 grams and agitated for 8 minutes.
 
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realcartman

Member
On the topic of rehydrating dried trim. You speak in your original videos of putting dry trim in the machine for 30 min with water, in order to rehydrate. Do you have any new takes, thoughts or approaches to this. Or have you stayed with soaking dry trim for 30 min. Any thoughts on using less time or other methods of rehydrating?

also - any thoughts on draining the 25 bag quicker. poplar mentioned a technique I was hoping he might share... any one else?
 
poplars

poplars

Well-Known Member
realcartman said:
On the topic of rehydrating dried trim. You speak in your original videos of putting dry trim in the machine for 30 min with water, in order to rehydrate. Do you have any new takes, thoughts or approaches to this. Or have you stayed with soaking dry trim for 30 min. Any thoughts on using less time or other methods of rehydrating?

also - any thoughts on draining the 25 bag quicker. poplar mentioned a technique I was hoping he might share... any one else?
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the technique is basically this.....


pull up, push down, in a rythmic way, what happens is... when you pull up on the 25 bag just straight up, the small particles clog the screen, preventing barely any water from passing through, when you push down a little bit, you force water up through the screen, suspending the hash in the water, then when you pull up again a LOT of water will escape past the hash, repeat this process and you will drain the bag atleast 30x faster. its ridiculous. I drain the 25 bag in less than a minute every time, usually around 30 seconds or less.
 
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The Mantis

Well-Known Member
Boulder Dankness said:
Hey mantis how long did you agitate for? I just ran my first batch in the small machine of some dank fresh frozen sugarleaf, and my hash came out green. I can't figure out what I did wrong! I used 112 grams and agitated for 8 minutes.
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boulder -

i agitated with a bubble machine 5 gal for 15 minutes. i used dry trim from this summer that has been in the freezer. i think it turned the color for a couple reasons:

1 - i used dry trim. the first batch i did i used wet trim and it worked better and was ligther in color.
2 - i didn't let the hash sit in the bag long enough before i scooped it with my kitchen spoon onto wax paper. i prob should have let it sit about 10 minutes to drain water better.
3 - i then put it all in freezer for 4 hours and grated immediately. it was still tan color at that time. i let it sit out all night on wax paper and it turned this darker color by morning.

i should have let it sit out all night and dry first after i pulled it out of freezer. little things like this make a difference.

i'm doing a batch of sannies jack in a few days. left over buds i never fully trimmed. i'll just chop up the buds some and put in machine once i get some good ice. post pics later.
try getting yours colder/ more ice less water maybe? good luck
 
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Boulder Dankness

Member
Thanks for getting back to me mantis, I really appreciate it brother! I did a Chernobyl run yesterday morning with 86 grams of fresh frozen trim! Probably the frostiest trim I have ever seen in my life! Took Poplars advice and did 2 three minute runs and got white hash out of my 73 and 25. I feel that the more agitation the more chlorophyll gets released into the water. If I ran 15 minutes I can't imagine how green my yield would be! The downside to this was after 2 runs there was still a insane amount of tricomes on the material. I ran out of ice so I couldn't do another run but this weekend I shall prevail! I'm going to try soaking for 5 minutes, then agitate for 30-45 seconds, let it sit for a minute and then let it run for 2 three minute sessions. I'm also finding out that there is a fine line between having enough water in the machine to allow the mix to actually spin, and having enough ice in there to keep it all cold! It's time to fine tune this bitch!
 
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Gehanee

Member
The Mantis said:
boulder -

i agitated with a bubble machine 5 gal for 15 minutes. i used dry trim from this summer that has been in the freezer. i think it turned the color for a couple reasons:

1 - i used dry trim. the first batch i did i used wet trim and it worked better and was ligther in color.
2 - i didn't let the hash sit in the bag long enough before i scooped it with my kitchen spoon onto wax paper. i prob should have let it sit about 10 minutes to drain water better.
3 - i then put it all in freezer for 4 hours and grated immediately. it was still tan color at that time. i let it sit out all night on wax paper and it turned this darker color by morning.

i should have let it sit out all night and dry first after i pulled it out of freezer. little things like this make a difference.

i'm doing a batch of sannies jack in a few days. left over buds i never fully trimmed. i'll just chop up the buds some and put in machine once i get some good ice. post pics later.
try getting yours colder/ more ice less water maybe? good luck
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Is there a way to make it stay blond or is it always going to change to the darker color
 
Strobe

Strobe

Active Member
I have a set of those bags and they are made pretty cheaply. They have the waterproofing crap on the insides that starts to flake off after about 3-4 runs. I wish I would have just saved up and got some better ones.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Kalyx said:
I have the essential 5 bag set from CO, and their 5 gal machine although I've been told they are selling a newer model now. It extracts well :lol: and I did buy a full mesh set to add up a 8 bag set first run on new material. Honestly not having a 90 in there is usually no biggie, but I do think having bags between your 120 and 220 is pretty important. The main things I question on the essential bags are the horrid waterproof coating on the inside of the hella burly nylon that will eventually peel into my hash! Plus, they smell decidedly not pure nor organic in any way (petro-chemical) when they are brand new.

Next set I get will be a ice-o-later 8 bag me thinks.

HASHY HOLIDAYS! Happy Solstice team IWE! Many thanks to Matt for sharing with the community and helping us all RIZE UP!!!
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Yeah you really should be using a 160 bag in your set. Nikka's set do not come with 160s, I called him out on it, he got butthurt, just another day. Please if you buy this guy's bags also buy a 160 so your 120 bag won't be garbage.
poplars said:
I used to think not having a 90 was no biggie till I got the 90 ;)
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heh
Azweepei said:
Quick question: Matt, can we still procure your ice wax through here? ---> https://www.southbaycrc.org/
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I have not vended there for a long time. Now I only work with a small dispensary in Hopland, Mendocino Co.
Cannabinoids said:
Found my answer from High Times January 2013 - Wax On, Making Soleventless hash the Nikka T way Story by Ry Prichard

Nikka T on the subject of Drying temp and humidity.

"Also, Keep temperatures in the drying area between 40F and 68F depending on how quickly you want to remove the water (which will vary according to strain), and keep the relative humidity between 15 and 50 percent. there are certain strains were I like to keep the humidity and temps on the higher end of that range to create the appearance desired by the patient or client...." - Nikka T
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What nik is saying is that he intentionally leaves water in his hash, because people think wet hash is good due to the shiny look. Take notes yall, nikka is a sellout clown who will sell wet hash if you will buy it. Please do not dry in a room over 40% humidity guys and gals, unless you want wet hash. And please do not dry in warm rooms, unless you want wet hash. Just because nik likes to sell wet hash (it does look prettier and weigh more with water in it) does not make it good technique.
Gehanee said:
Hey there was mention of a fruit role up or something of that sort
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We used to call it fruit rollup tech. Now they call it ice water shatter. I do not like the technique as the lack of surface area results in wetter hash. As said above, wet hash is beautiful, extra shiny and pretty, but its poor technique.
 
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