ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

i know he his having trouble with his internet connectivity so he prob wont answer but maybe somebody else can.

why not use a plaster mixing drill bit to agitate the trim and ice water?, i know he's pretty against it but i just can't remeber the reason why. i'm looking to make a fairly large chunk of IWE and i was planning on using my drill to agitate in a 50 gal drum then use my bags as a sieve basically. i don't have access to a bubblemachine, any input will be appreciated.

ghb said:

i know he his having trouble with his internet connectivity so he prob wont answer but maybe somebody else can.

why not use a plaster mixing drill bit to agitate the trim and ice water?, i know he's pretty against it but i just can't remeber the reason why. i'm looking to make a fairly large chunk of IWE and i was planning on using my drill to agitate in a 50 gal drum then use my bags as a sieve basically. i don't have access to a bubblemachine, any input will be appreciated.

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well I think the main issue would be the fact that it agitates so hard it's going to break a significant amount of plant matter into it.

i figured that, but then when i filter it trough my bags and then rinse it heavily with my pump sprayer i'm hoping it isn't too tainted.

other than that i don't know how else i will manage it, i will be working with around a pound of high quality trim and i am not looking to make a masterpiece out of it but just some nice quality bubble. i was also thinking about maybe using dry ice to make keif, i'm super lazy that tends to work against me.

in my experience no matter how much you spray through the bag if you over-agitated it will pretty much be tainted. spraying helps a loooot though and will make a green batch actually smokeable... but I don't recommend doing it on purpose.


I'd recommend you use a wooden plank of some sort, something that is not sharp but solid, agitating the ice around should result in a very nice extraction (so long as you let the dry shake soak for 30 mins).

so when it comes to agitation (where quality is concerned) less is more. i may try just a long wooden stick, i agree the long soak is very important, the first time i tried making IWE i never let it sit, i got around 4 grams from 4 oz lol

ghb said:

so when it comes to agitation (where quality is concerned) less is more. i may try just a long wooden stick, i agree the long soak is very important, the first time i tried making IWE i never let it sit, i got around 4 grams from 4 oz lol

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a long wooden stick, lots of ice, slow but steady. it'll make you a strong lad hahahah.

Hey man i have a friend who is studying organice chem, i was talking to him about the negitive effects i was having after taking my dab, turns our titinum and propane dont mix well, just be carefull, quarts and propane are fine,

propane torches are generally too hot. you don't want to overheat the Ti as it will oxidize. no net still.... be back soon.

I use my propane torch to heat up a pyrex glass poker, for use with my concentrate bowl. I heat it until it's red hot.

EDIT: I just bought some Bolt Bags to upgrade my four bag set. I now have 220, 160, 90, 73, 45 and 25. I agree about the 25 being heavily contaminated. If I use the 25 bag it will be for cooking or making tinctures.

Goldowitz said:

I use my propane torch to heat up a pyrex glass poker, for use with my concentrate bowl. I heat it until it's red hot.

EDIT: I just bought some Bolt Bags to upgrade my four bag set. I now have 220, 160, 90, 73, 45 and 25. I agree about the 25 being heavily contaminated. If I use the 25 bag it will be for cooking or making tinctures.

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I personally dont' find the 25 to be heavily contaminated. its usually not the best smoke though but I wouldn't call it heavily contaminated.

Rize-ing up. took a couple days but phinally finished reading entire thread.
THANK YOU MATT! and EVERYONE else w/ awesome info! love the vibe and energy here.
i've been at it for few+ years mixing, dialing in, and recycling my organic living 'soil'(coco base, no peat), still working on it too. and starting to work out the animal products(mainly Phish at this point). now i've phinally used the bags i've had for a year or so. much thanks to you(Matt) and all you kind folks. THANK YOU!
wondering??...
do you guys toss your greens(work bag) in the compost after use? could you reuse the water after running though bags? <possibly add to a tea?
my 1st try at the bags w/ dry trim. Super lemon haze, Carmel kush, & purple Buddha, mixed. < just what i had on hand for the 1st go. gonna fresh freeze for next round.
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pyle420 said:

Rize-ing up. took a couple days but phinally finished reading entire thread.
THANK YOU MATT! and EVERYONE else w/ awesome info! love the vibe and energy here.
i've been at it for few+ years mixing, dialing in, and recycling my organic living 'soil'(coco base, no peat), still working on it too. and starting to work out the animal products(mainly Phish at this point). now i've phinally used the bags i've had for a year or so. much thanks to you(Matt) and all you kind folks. THANK YOU!
wondering??...
do you guys toss your greens(work bag) in the compost after use? could you reuse the water after running though bags? <possibly add to a tea?
my 1st try at the bags w/ dry trim. Super lemon haze, Carmel kush, & purple Buddha, mixed. < just what i had on hand for the 1st go. gonna fresh freeze for next round.
thanks again View attachment 2196941View attachment 2196943View attachment 2196944View attachment 2196942View attachment 2196948

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that stuff looks very very yummy, good job!

pyle420

wondering??...
do you guys toss your greens(work bag) in the compost after use? could you reuse the water after running though bags? <possibly add to a tea?
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Yes, I compost the plant matter. I use the (dankest smelling water ever) "waste" water from the process to make/dilute tea (once room temp) or just add straight to my med garden, houseplants, and outdoor veggies. All plants loved it. I even dumped it ice and all into a lettuce bed this spring and the plants seemed to respond with a burst in growth over the next few days. I mean hey, ITS (vegan organic, RO) GANJA WATER!!! I drink it too, it tastes great.

thanks Kalyx!
and poplars!

I have some White Widow, Pineapple Express and my favorite Kush that is ready to make IWE (as soon as I get my new bags). I will be using both trim and my beloved buds for these batches. I am curious to see how the IWE made from buds will compare to the stuff made from trim. Will I get more gram for gram, or will the quality be better?
Here is a picture from last batch. It was made from WW and AK47 trim that was mixed together. This is 160-73 micron.



Here is a picture of the full batch, both grades. They are still wet in this picture. This was from two runs in my 5 gallon bags.

hello mat i was just wondering if you could go a lil more in on the pocket cure method you did for elderberry Ice Wax
much thanks

hpizzle said:

hello mat i was just wondering if you could go a lil more in on the pocket cure method you did for elderberry Ice Wax
much thanks

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pocket cure is basically getting a convienient sized jar and basically keep it in your pocket all day and the temperature of your body heat will cure it.

Wow.... I feel like I have climbed the mountains of Tibet to gain the wisdom of the monks. Read 1137 posts in the thread over the past few days, and WOW what a game changer! Seems like it has been a game changer for Matt as well, since even the master's process has evolved I do have a few questions if I may:

Matt, I saw you post this back on 9/30/11:

Updates include:
using more bags: 220 (work), 220, 190, 160, 120, 73, 45
using no ice in the work bag (for machines)
using all RO water
using (chlorine free) paper towels instead of cloth to wick out the water after collection

Would you say you have any major revisions to your process since then?

Also, you made mention once upon a time about the bubblenow machine needing to be insulated to make it work as well as it can. I know you now use a Bubble Magic machine, do you feel this machine is insulated sufficiently, or does it need extra help as well?

Finally, I can see a good portion of my extractions being from prime nugs vs trim or budlets. I saw you mention to very gentle cut the buds up, so I will be sure to do that. Do you suggest fresh frozen buds just like with the trim, or should they be dried first?

Thanks Matt! Oh, and please be sure to let us know when to look for the Rize Up line of dabbing glass

-Ice Wax artists and scholar's-

Is 24 hours ok for the fresh freeze? My ladies are finishing Th and i had planned on trimmimg right into turkey bags, freeze for 24, then get my IwE on... Plus all my new gear from X-traktor will be here and ready to get down!


edit: why no ice in machine bag now i wonder?

poplars said:

pocket cure is basically getting a convienient sized jar and basically keep it in your pocket all day and the temperature of your body heat will cure it.

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thaxs can you also tell me a lil on his grease form of hie? i would love to get mind like that!