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dukeanthony

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Here we are again, reframing the past so that it makes the present seem more... depraved and decadent. Martin Luther King had a serious problem with the "civil norms" of 100 years ago, he WANTED us to make a left turn because that was where civil liberties for the majority of us resided. Question women as to their particular situation 100 years ago and see that it wasn't the warm fuzzy place the right seem to idolize over this current..civil norm.
Yeah but the blacks brown and yellows knew their place and if your woman got out of line you could smack them around. Kids didnt need a lot of school we could put them to work in the mines at the age of 8
 

Canna Sylvan

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What is a blacks brown? Do you mean blacks, browns and yellows? Why don't you separate individual things with a comma? Since you wouldn't know the difference between house cat and dog and house, cat and dog.
 

HydroSoil

Member
The education system today is shit. The closer you get to mass populations, the worse it gets.

Rewarding children for nothing... requiring nothing... teaching bullying, "govt control is good" dogma, and blatant AOL'ism (Expecting people to lead you by the hand.... _every_ time you need to do something... even if it's the same something over and over and over again.)

My kid isn't going into the public school system. Period. Pissed that I even have to conform to some home-schooling bullshit but at least I'll have control over the content.

Search for and read "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" to get a little bit of an insight into what is going on with our education system. The information is old though and things have gotten worse. If this document doesn't clue you in... you're too programmed to see it for what it is. What's it like being a good little socialist?

Stay Safe! :D
 

Fety

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canndo

Well-Known Member
The education system today is shit. The closer you get to mass populations, the worse it gets.

Rewarding children for nothing... requiring nothing... teaching bullying, "govt control is good" dogma, and blatant AOL'ism (Expecting people to lead you by the hand.... _every_ time you need to do something... even if it's the same something over and over and over again.)

My kid isn't going into the public school system. Period. Pissed that I even have to conform to some home-schooling bullshit but at least I'll have control over the content.

Search for and read "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" to get a little bit of an insight into what is going on with our education system. The information is old though and things have gotten worse. If this document doesn't clue you in... you're too programmed to see it for what it is. What's it like being a good little socialist?

Stay Safe! :D

I got a friend who's daughter (bout 16) took a new little friend (another girl about 16) to a museum. They looked at all the displays and when they got to the dinosours the new little friend said "why do they make those things up?" my friends daughter said, "but there it is, there are the bones, why would anyone make this up?" whereupon the new little friend said "Scientists lie, those bones are fake, everything in this museum is in here to trick us".

By the way this little friend was home schooled. You figure maybe the dumbing down of America starts with the massive religious right in this country?
 

UncleBuck

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I got a friend who's daughter (bout 16) took a new little friend (another girl about 16) to a museum. They looked at all the displays and when they got to the dinosours the new little friend said "why do they make those things up?" my friends daughter said, "but there it is, there are the bones, why would anyone make this up?" whereupon the new little friend said "Scientists lie, those bones are fake, everything in this museum is in here to trick us".

By the way this little friend was home schooled. You figure maybe the dumbing down of America starts with the massive religious right in this country?
sex-ed in this country is a joke, that's for sure. and you can thank the religious right for that.
 

MuyLocoNC

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I don't think there's too many RIU members, even the hardcore Conservatives, that would defend the stupidity of the religious right and/or creationists. Once religion enters into the equation, logic and reason seem to take a back seat. When it comes to children and sex education, the wishes of the parent has to come first, even if their beliefs are ass-backwards. You don't fuck with someone's kids, even if you believe your methods are more effective. I have no problem with my children being taught sex ed in the later grades of elementary school, certainly middle school, but I wouldn't think of mandating it if the parent opposes it.
 

dukeanthony

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I got a friend who's daughter (bout 16) took a new little friend (another girl about 16) to a museum. They looked at all the displays and when they got to the dinosours the new little friend said "why do they make those things up?" my friends daughter said, "but there it is, there are the bones, why would anyone make this up?" whereupon the new little friend said "Scientists lie, those bones are fake, everything in this museum is in here to trick us".

By the way this little friend was home schooled. You figure maybe the dumbing down of America starts with the massive religious right in this country?

Not shitting you at all. i took my duaghter to the Museum and a Teacher of a Bunch of kids Pointed out the sign and said to watch out for that. The world is only 6000 years old. It was the Dinosaur Diorama.
 

Canna Sylvan

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"Scientists lie, those bones are fake, everything in this museum is in here to trick us".
Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoraptor

Ht://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brontosaurus

" This method of reconstructing incomplete skeletons based on the more complete remains of related dinosaurs continues in museum mounts and life restorations to this day."

"Brontosaurus," took not two different heads to get right, but three! Dinosaurs are less about scientific accuracy and more about a cash cow.
 

UncleBuck

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Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoraptor

Ht://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brontosaurus

" This method of reconstructing incomplete skeletons based on the more complete remains of related dinosaurs continues in museum mounts and life restorations to this day."

"Brontosaurus," took not two different heads to get right, but three! Dinosaurs are less about scientific accuracy and more about a cash cow.
god just put them there to test our faith. :neutral:
 

Canna Sylvan

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No, you already know I'm an atheist. It's all man made hoaxes. Just like I don't need god to tell me not to kill, I don't need a scientist telling me how to count my fingers. Reason is taken over by both sides. Religion with you don't have faith, science with you're not smart enough to understand.

Where's this ice age your liberal friends promised us in the 70s?
 

canndo

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Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoraptor

Ht://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brontosaurus

" This method of reconstructing incomplete skeletons based on the more complete remains of related dinosaurs continues in museum mounts and life restorations to this day."

"Brontosaurus," took not two different heads to get right, but three! Dinosaurs are less about scientific accuracy and more about a cash cow.

Again, the abject distrust of established science in the general public is what I am talking about - People deal with the world now through hunch and opinion and most of that is a result of the right and it's influence.
 

Total Head

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i attended public school in the late 80s and early 90s, and i did so in a state with one of the highest ranked education systems.

i was never offered a civics class. my school had no debate team. we spent more time learning about MLK than we did the united states constitution. we NEVER covered the civil war or international history or current politics (once they touched on the holocaust). my first real history lesson was in college during a course that should have been a refresher. there were no open ended questions on tests, and if one was posed to a student their head would explode. debates and other such lively discussions were discouraged. the whole thing was memorize and regurgitate. i didn't realize what a joke it was till i got to college, and i felt seriously underprepared.
 

dukeanthony

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i attended public school in the late 80s and early 90s, and i did so in a state with one of the highest ranked education systems.

i was never offered a civics class. my school had no debate team. we spent more time learning about MLK than we did the united states constitution. we NEVER covered the civil war or international history or current politics (once they touched on the holocaust). my first real history lesson was in college during a course that should have been a refresher. there were no open ended questions on tests, and if one was posed to a student their head would explode. debates and other such lively discussions were discouraged. the whole thing was memorize and regurgitate. i didn't realize what a joke it was till i got to college, and i felt seriously underprepared.
Public school had geography, civics and History
When I went to a Military high school We learned about
-entangling alliances
-ethnocentricitie
-the Franks the gauls and the germanic Tribes

And a lot of other very interesting topics. This was late 70s early 80s
 

Rob Roy

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There's nothing wrong with a group of people getting together and mutually deciding that they will educate their kids. Education is a good thing.

There is nothing wrong with some people saying "no thank you" I do not want to educate my kids in the same way others do.

There is a good deal wrong with a group of people getting together and under the threat of force making others pay for something they don't want and don't use.
 

dukeanthony

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There is a good deal wrong with a group of people getting together and under the threat of force making others pay for something they don't want and don't use.
Sounds Like you support the groups who wish to be Ignorant, narrow minded and Self centered
 
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