I want to grow 3lb in 3 months

I've got a 3x4 foot room with 8 foot celings. a 400 hps and a 250 hps.right now I'm just working my moms in there derban poison ,early skunk,kush,caliXskunk and B.C. big bud. I tinkering with some DIY areo ponics but I have some backround in flood and drain. Now I would love some feed back on all your opinions on the best way to accomplish my goal if its even possible in such a small room.I really enjoy pissin around with this shit so ifya got some new way to teach a young jedi I'd love to hear about it

taker easy budz

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I've got a 3x4 foot room with 8 foot celings. a 400 hps and a 250 hps.right now I'm just working my moms in there derban poison ,early skunk,kush,caliXskunk and B.C. big bud. I tinkering with some DIY areo ponics but I have some backround in flood and drain. Now I would love some feed back on all your opinions on the best way to accomplish my goal if its even possible in such a small room.I really enjoy pissin around with this shit so ifya got some new way to teach a young jedi I'd love to hear about it

taker easy budz

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wow i thought that this thread would be fun with lots of imputr and crazy ideas i guess not or its not possible

anywaqys i'll catch yas latersx

they arent replying because theres no point.....your goal is completely unattainable with your space and lighting availible.


and for the record i love it when people with small lights state that they have tall ceilings.....fluff buds anyone?

search for heat robinson. he done a vertical grow using a recirculating dwc with pvc pipes. with one 600 watt light he yielded close to three pounds. in all my time on these threads NO ONE have ever came close with that yield to watt ratio.

what up silk i have 8 foot ceilings but i'm not that retarded to use it. I put the lights about 6 inches off the moms in there right now and they are doing just fine at 4 feet 8 inches tall plus pot now were talking 5 foot 8 inches tall.and as far as my goal just like that wonderfullaly intelligent gardenman states there is a fellow doing an areo grow and yealding almost 3 pounds using 1 600 watt light.If ya can do the math I have 650 watts of light and I was looking for opinions.so if ya aint got anything constructive to add please piss off.Thanks garden man I'v read that thread and found it rather intresting and that looks like the way i'm gonna go i was looking for all the ideas i could get to help superdrive my little space.I hope all your seasons go well my friend have a great day.

also look in the diy section on the first page posted by mr.greenthumb is a diy 32 sits areo set up that clames 2lb on a 2foot by 4 foot tuppreware container.Silk is he full of shit too with derams of grandure or just maby its possible???

You mean 3 months of flower time after vegging to 4'8"? That means you can't do a vertical grow. You don't have the floor space for 3 pounds. Vertical grows add psuedo floor space.

You're also confused about lighting. 1 600 watt light will give off light that penetrates deeper than two lights that add up to 600 watts. A 400 watt bulb will only penetrate about half as much as a 600 watt bulb. If you add another 400 watt bulb, you will have more light near the tops, but it will not cause it to penetrate twice as far.

Think of it like this,.. the amount of light given off by a bulb is like heat given off a candle. You can add more candles/bulbs, but it doesn't increase the temperature/depth of light penetration.

In other words a candle burning gives off 400 degree heat, and adding more candles will only make your flame bigger, not hotter. Or another analogy using flashlights,.. take a 50 watt flashlight that gives a spotlight at 300 yards,.. you can't take 10 five watt flashlights and expect to get a spotlight at the same distance.

Lighting is highly misunderstood by growers.

You can put your lights closer to the plants though,.. than the 600 w could be positioned.

thanks i was not aware of that i thought that watts were watts so i think i'll up grade as soon as i get a couple bucks.the ladies that are in there now have been veging now since jan they have become a side project cause i dont want to chase clones when i need them lol everybody can get them untill you need them hahaha.so the 3 lb mission will start fresh with the death of the moms in about another month or so, right now there just cloning machienes then they might make it out doors.when you say vertical grow is that some type of training the plant to spread out = more bud or what exactaly is that?

Thanks for the help sid i'll catch ya around

This pretty much explains everything about a vertical grow including how to make one;
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/149998-heaths-flooded-tube-vertical.html

I'm not sure you need to upgrade your light. The difference in what you have versus buying a 600W isn't going to be much. Like I said, you can put your bulbs closer to the plants because they won't be as intense and hot. You can only fit so much into a 3 X 4 space, and heat is going to be an issue. Since you can go tall, you may want more than one bulb,.. to light different areas. Where a 1000w is better is spreading more light around,.. but the benefits for just the top cola's is arguable because you have to have the light further away. The further from the bulb the less intense the light, and the circle of high intensity from a 600w is much larger than a 400W.

A 600w can light buds on the plant that are lower and on the sides. No bulb can put light on buds within the plant or under leaves in shadows. Since you can put a 400w closer, the top buds could receive virtually the same intensity of light, but it won't light up the side buds as well, or put as much light on plants not directly under the light.

If your'e going to do a vertical grow,.. you may just want to use two or three of the walls. Put reflective material on the others.

Heath's grow is 4 feet on the interior of the plants meaning his space has to be 5 X 5 or larger and he didn't quite get 3 lbs. My advice to you is forget the 3 lb target, unless you can expand your space, or set it up so the vertical grow goes 7 feet up the wall.

Heaths space was 6 feet by 9 feet.

you just became my favorit(spelling not important)hahahaha in the whole world.You are brilliant thats fucking awesome if I could give ya more rep I would that set up is perfect. I thought I was going to go with aro or a flood and drain but now thanks to you I've seen the light. My little space and little lights and that setup should maximise the yeld.This was the answer I was looking for I might not get the 3 lb but I think it'll be close.

Keep being the coolest person on this site I've got some research to do, how long to veg,how tall do I let them grow.how far to space them ect ect....
anyways you rock taker easykiss-ass

yesterday was a really bad day for me, everyone got the treatment and pretty much none of them deserved it and for that i appologize.

sidd has given you spot on info, i agree with all of it except that i DO think you could do better witha 600 vs a 400 & 250. the lumen output of a 600 will smoke your current setup. i also still really think 3lbs is fantasy without major building and tweaking of your system. you must remember that heath robinson has been doing vertical grows since vertical grows, the guy knows his shit inside and out. FLojo also knows his vert and documents his grows very well, but he too has way more space than you.

best of luck.

thanks silk i appreaciate that.as for space and lights things can always be modified.I own my house and have a basement I would love to just rock the shit out of it but the wife is keeping me in check LMAOi can make er a bit bigger I was mostly looking for ideas and the best way to go with the least amount of space ya konw what I mean

anaways heres to one of thoes days

cheers man

well if its the wifey issue...convince her..and just box out a small area in the basement..studs sheetrock and all that so its sealth..i say if u had a goal..and u do ...3 elbs...jsut need to get to it...so box out an area that allows for a 1000watter..cheap extrasun versions..complete setups are only 280 bucks.. its needs to be centered over a 5x5 so ur box out could be 7x7 or 8x8 to give u walking room..this isnt even a room size..or much bigger than ur akward demensions u were inquiring about..u could keep the moms under ur existing lights and in that enclosure..and have 2 rooms for it..and probably be much closer to ur goa, with much less work. Im sure getting up toward 3 off of 1 600 is some fucking work, and expert planning execution and stragey..u might have it who knows..but this is how i feel ud reach ur goal easiest.

You'd need another 600w or 1k to get that type of yield in that space, and it would have to come from a SOG. If you are thinking a heath style bush in a 3x4...aint gonna happen, but I say that with the most encouraging- I would like to see you do it attitude, as that would be kick ass. But the ventilation and lighting probably would not suffice, not to mention the 15-30 gal container you'd need and the 2-3 mo. veg.

I'd say get a 3x3 table, 1000w, good aircooled hood and fan and run a good sog. Veg will be minimal, plants will be many and that goal will be closer to attainable. 2lbs would be impressive to say the least.

sea of green flood and drain was the way i was planing to go but i have some time before i start so i'm just looking for ideas and still have time to research.my ultimate erection grow equip is the wheel ( of fourtune ) its similar to heaths but instead of a big room wraped around a light this is a ferris wheel with a light as the axel everything grows in, the plants actually grow up side down its a little fucked up but cool as hell and it fits something like 180 plants in a 4 x 5 foot space and uses 2 600 watters. simple and amazing to see it in action

thanks budz...

T.

oh ya P.S. vent and temp not a prob I have a 14 inch can fan/filter (charcoal) temp reged and smell non existant life is good

Im am going to say no way for 3 lbs in that space,with hat lighting, no co2 and realitive newness to growing and in only 90 days. I can yield maybe 2 lbs dreied from a 4x8 tent with 2 600 watt co2 tanks and a 4x8 flood table with 20 plantsa in it. I have posted many of the aero setups and only way I am thinking you might get some bigger yield involve 1-2 big big plants with 1000 watt lights and moree then 90 days to do it. Ill watch but Im gonna say no way on this one

Shit if you upped to 1000w'ers instead of 600's you'd be easily clearing that 2lbs per 4x8.

Dialed in on a 3x3 with sog he should be able to 1lb + with 1000w'ers. Calculate the watt and lumen/sq. ft.

4x8= 32 sq.ft , 1200w/32= 37.5w/sq.ft and only around 5600 lumens/sq.ft (if you rolled 2x1000w instead it would be much more efficient, around 67w/sq.ft and 8750 lumens/sq.ft)

3x3= 9 sq. ft, per say 1000w/9= 111 w/sq.ft and around 16,000 lumens/sq. ft.

Plan on the sun putting out around 100w/sq.ft as a goal. Meet that or exceed and see superior results. Why not assume that a small grow with higher concentration of light will yield more and temp/external issues will be easier control with less space/variables.