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thewanderingjack

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Hey man, chill a little dude.

Justugh is cool. Crazy but cool.

Autos are good smoke if done right.

I would be willing to.bet that most saying that autos are crap have never grown them or grew them years ago. They are a lot better now.

Justugh is not selling products. What he said is right. You can push autos hard. Not N tox but higher amounts of N.

I've grown some autos that were ditch weed, a couple years back. Recently with a little research and buying from reputable breeders, they have been great smoke.

Not everyone can have large plant counts. I get seeds are expensive. That's why I femmed my own. I will have hundreds of fem auto seeds this year at harvest.

Y'all can call bullshit but the guy has been doing this for years and has the threads and pics here yo prove it.

Why bash on someone for doing what works for them?
I'm with you... idk about autos much or what can and can't be done, but so far as the sot of generalized bashing... I am a personal grower, I do a lot of things people say are so unproductive, but over all it works for me. I love other small growers for their willingness to experiment... whether or not they're successful, or if it's something I can or can't use...

Maybe he is a kook... many a great mind have been mad (DO NOT EQUATE THAT WITH ME SAYING HE HAS A GREAT MIND... logic people, type 1 2 3 error... think!)... maybe this (or some part of it) is still a good idea.

.(..awah and I said I wouldn't... crap..).
 

ttystikk

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I'm just here to learn something, and the Amish Fucker hasn't disappointed me yet.

You just keep doing you, @justugh

Every goddamned one of us is crazy anyway- it's an unavoidable consequence of the crazy fucked up world we've built for ourselves.

Or to put it another way; the sane one among us may cast the first stone.
 

thewanderingjack

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I'm just here to learn something, and the Amish Fucker hasn't disappointed me yet.

You just keep doing you, @justugh

Every goddamned one of us is crazy anyway- it's an unavoidable consequence of the crazy fucked up world we've built for ourselves.

Or to put it another way; the sane one among us may cast the first stone.
Don't tempt me... I've got a huge pile ;-)

OR

pft, I'm the sanest person I know

dammit I couldn't decide
 

bravedave

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even a little chlorine in tap water ALMOST CAN kill your soil life, imagine what synthetics can do. Make them thrive?
Of course, when using chemical nutes you are not depending on "soil life" much. While there is not much in peat for bacteria to get excited about, it can serve fungi just fine. I use spring water and yes the important part thrives.
 

ttystikk

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Don't tempt me... I've got a huge pile ;-)

OR

pft, I'm the sanest person I know

dammit I couldn't decide
Don't tempt me to remind you that there are still three letters missing from the posterior of your handle... :bigjoint:

Having examined the various choices in archetypes available, I find the 'Mad Scientist' to be the one which allows me the most freedom of personal expression, lol

:fire: I mean, I'm fairly expected to be eccentric! LMAO

How rude it would be of me to disappoint! :mrgreen:
 

thewanderingjack

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Don't tempt me to remind you that there are still three letters missing from the posterior of your handle... :bigjoint:
ie. jackoff... jackoff=express my self, as in, to spew my semen=why would you not wanna say I'm a wandering jackoff, as in someone who wanders about jacking off? whats wrong with it? Don't judge me.. I AM NOT ASHAMED!!!

feels good... I'm doing it right now... maybe.... ;-)
 

ttystikk

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ie. jackoff... jackoff=express my self, as in, to spew my semen=why would you not wanna say I'm a wandering jackoff, as in someone who wanders about jacking off? whats wrong with it? Don't judge me.. I AM NOT ASHAMED!!!

feels good... I'm doing it right now... maybe.... ;-)
Just wipe the keyboard off when you're through...
 

justugh

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This part confuses me , why do you think auto seeds offer a wider selection of strains? New photo crosses are being made just as fast as new auto crosses. It sounds like you think theres a small group of photo strains... Nope, everyday they are making new ones ... Not to mention autos are fairly new so those crosses haven't been happening that long, Not as long as photos. photo crosses had a huge head start there's way more photo strains then auto strains. They've been crossing photos forever .. Autos not so much. It seems like you really want to be right, even if you're not.
auto seeds are a better choice then clones any day

say u get a deal 10000 for 50 cent a seed .....good killer strain
over the next 10 years i can add that seed into the rotation using it and keep the price of that strain high until it finally gets fully replaced then the rest of the seeds hold on too and then make them grow a few years later for the old type of weed for ppl to have again
i tried acapulco gold ....the top weed back in the day to me it tasted like dirt weed ....to the 60 year old Indiana dude i was toking with it tasted like the past he asked me what shop i got it from so he could get some

the number of auto seeds on the market now is staggering ........just the sheer profiles and they are crossing autos with cup winners
with clones u need a system to keep them alive.....with seeds u need a sub zero freezer


so say i set up a shop i got it going and everything .....they change the laws on me and forces me to shut down ......if i am running clones i am going to lose them as i am looking for a place to put the system up and keep them running

seeds i move it out of the turned off freezer put them into a cooler and add a block of dry ice until i can get them into a sub zero that is running

it is that simple seeds store better seeds take up less space seeds last longer and seeds are cheaper then clones when u get bulk

autos are not that new they amount they making gtting to photo lvls is new but there are seeds that been out for 5 years (seeds i started using are still for sale )

each of these new strains winning cups are only what 1 to 3 years old ....they might keep it to there shop only for another 2 3 years then start selling the seeds or clones
hell they have blue dream in auto gsc in auto green crack in auto gorilla glue in auto


clones work for medical .....no doubt about that ...something works to fix the trouble they stick with what works
autos work best for wreck ....for the sheer turn over and u can offer so many different strains...wreck weed ppl are after THC and taste they try new stuff
 

justugh

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I'm just here to learn something, and the Amish Fucker hasn't disappointed me yet.

You just keep doing you, @justugh

Every goddamned one of us is crazy anyway- it's an unavoidable consequence of the crazy fucked up world we've built for ourselves.

Or to put it another way; the sane one among us may cast the first stone.
thanks man
knuckle bump of respect
 

justugh

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Colorado has had legal weed for years and there's a truly amazing variety of strains available. I think the widespread availability of clones improves choices and variety.

And the relative importance of grower skill in creating a top quality product has never changed. It's just becoming a lot easier for the consumer to tell mediocre product from the good stuff and make their choice.

I'm interested in how you're using nutes and non photoperiod based techniques to affect the beheading and generational cycles of 'auto'flowers. I'm going to reread this thread, what should I be looking for?
did give u credit for that .....respect

well the first thing u should look at is the hydro exp that went nutz ......it was 55 days of growth i had to change the feed out completely and go to a 12 12 timing for a few days to make it flip

the only thing that caused that was the feed supply .......i messed up and did the wrong plan resulting in way to much feed in there given the plant what it needed in amounts that it never seen

this is also in my super soil experiments .........before i posted this simplified one i had a much stronger bigger set going .......the batch was mixed up on the cream of the crop auto strains (narcothreapy and cash crop) .......my last nacro that ran off that batch came out thick and hairy tested only at 19.66% but the weight is there (even with lighting tricks i was unable to push gland heads

your using your head and thinking .........the thing i have not told ppl about my experiments once they add in light tricks i know they can increase the oil to plant matter raito getting a better return
oz of sugar trim does me 3.7 grams of oil (rough math 14 to 15 % returns and if u done oil u know that is getting near epic 20% return lvls)

this is about 2 years old .....i picked it up when i was reading i forget what subject i found it under but i will try to repeat the best i can
plants under goes 9 stages of life (all plants)
1 seed
2 seedling sprout
3 early growth
4 late growth
5 trans fliping to flower
6 early flower
7 mid flower or bulking
8 late flowering or riping or seeding
9 death or harvest

now with a auto flower being on a shorter cycle something has to be triggering......the hydro found it (feed and water variables) i had to force it to move along in theory it would be possible to keep it going in late growth if i keep the lvls increases so we never a hick up

as long as the auto flower plant has access to water and feed it will keep growing until something in the environment changes to trigger the response (as i keep my area with in 20 degree flux RH under 65% and IR temps controlled with fans i had no triggers other then feed) ......any indoor grower has this set up it is the whole idea ....in the wild the plant would grow and get as much rooting area as it could once it would notice a change in what it had offered to it then it would change over auto flipping keeping genetics alive

then it just becomes a learning curve as u do auto plants u learn to read them (like photo plants but it shows up much faster) ...so by reading them u tweak the feed to keep them where u want too

this is what i been doing i made plants rated for 45 grams grow me 6 oz .........it is just matter of over feeding the plant they love it but not over feeding it to stress it or make the smoke bad

what i told the ppl here will let them do the same thing as me but in a faster time frame they will not make the same mistakes as i did with weaker soils or feeds ........odds are maybe a few ppl will fallow the plan to letter but the most will pull it together see something in the strain and do better then expected

also by doing this i know some of the terepene counts in Auto flowers are just way to small to call it medical weed .......i made plants run double the natural life cycle but the medical grade terepenes never increase into photo lvls ( thc and cbds and smell taste terepenes are same across board just not the medical ones)
 
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justugh

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Hey man, chill a little dude.

Justugh is cool. Crazy but cool.

Autos are good smoke if done right.

I would be willing to.bet that most saying that autos are crap have never grown them or grew them years ago. They are a lot better now.

Justugh is not selling products. What he said is right. You can push autos hard. Not N tox but higher amounts of N.

I've grown some autos that were ditch weed, a couple years back. Recently with a little research and buying from reputable breeders, they have been great smoke.

Not everyone can have large plant counts. I get seeds are expensive. That's why I femmed my own. I will have hundreds of fem auto seeds this year at harvest.

Y'all can call bullshit but the guy has been doing this for years and has the threads and pics here to prove it.

Why bash on someone for doing what works for them?
knuckle bump of respect
 

GardenGnome83

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you know what

shut up or put up
i linked my pics my test and my experiments

i see nothing from u but words and u can not even argue correctly one point is killed u do not accept u just move to a 2nd point u want to make


u have no value .........i call u out where is yours ....u called me out i posted where is yours

lets see your tests lets see your anything (pics do not count less u hold a 20 bill up so can prove it is u not a copy from some other site )
until u post something proving your points just shut the fuck up u are wasting my time and making this posting look like crap as is now i am going to remake it to get rid of your shit
Learn properr grammar and punctuation. You've uglied it up from the start.
Run a controlled experiment with your formula, against regular soil. All you have are ideas. Prove them.
Then run photo plants, and see what gets you more thc and weight.
 

Yodaweed

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I know. I was going to say something. On the other hand everyone spent pages riling him up.

Justugh could stand to chill some to.
Bro i'm enjoying watching him flip out, get some popcorn and enjoy the show. Isnt this what roll it up is all about?
 
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