I think everyone is full of shit!

qwizoking

qwizoking

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Ibwiill say a lot of dispensaries have bud that is pretty dry and no cure.

Dude will be opening jars and they all smell the same to me. I look at him puzzled and start talkin shit


The cure is really important. Your plants should smell good and dif during veg..whether coffee lemon or an orange flavored arm pit..
But these phenols and terps polymerize essentially .

Heavier more potent with lower sensory ppm thresholds


If all your bud has just been bud.

Give up on life
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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kor420 said:
I always just thought it was me, the people i bought my weed from and my growing style, but i have NEVER tasted weed that tasted like grape or pineapple etc... Now when it's in flowering i can smell a slight hint of this or that, but when it dries and cures, it just smells and taste like weed to me; with just slight differences in taste and smell depending on strain; but none of this fruity shit people claims.

Recently got back from Colorado. I was so excited so i got several stains that i heard ppl talk about how they taste like this and that. All strains i sampled all tasted like weed, with just slight differences and those differences tasted nothing like ppl claimed.

It think its all placebo. If i tell you it taste like a fresh apple pie, when you smoke it, you're going to taste apple pie. If i tell you it taste like bubblegum, you're going to taste bubble gum. I did this exact experiment with several friends when i returned and told them it was strains i brought back, but actually it was from the jar at my house of the same strain.
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Do you smoke cigarettes? If so, you can kiss your palate goodbye until you've quit for a month.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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qwizoking said:
Ibwiill say a lot of dispensaries have bud that is pretty dry and no cure.

Dude will be opening jars and they all smell the same to me. I look at him puzzled and start talkin shit


The cure is really important. Your plants should smell good and dif during veg..whether coffee lemon or an orange flavored arm pit..
But these phenols and terps polymerize essentially .

Heavier more potent with lower sensory ppm thresholds


If all your bud has just been bud.

Give up on life
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A good cure won't save bad weed, but a bad cure will fuck up a good crop every time.
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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ttystikk said:
A good cure won't save bad weed, but a bad cure will fuck up a good crop every time.
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(Taking notes....)

Curing/drying is the same, or? I seem to remember my brother hanging the plants upside down in the garage, tied with fishing line.
That was 30-40 years ago, though...
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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ttystikk said:
A good cure won't save bad weed, but a bad cure will fuck up a good crop every time.
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I think their problem is bad weed and bad cure..

I haven't come across ANYTHING in a dispensary that made me want to try a clone only that I always hear about.

I was super disapointed in gg#4

All I've heard about it.
It was just another chem/sour.
And weaker than my landrace sour

(16 weeker, chunky spongy buds a little pointed. Smells like sour garlicky trash ((my ex wife named it trucker)) with berry undertones)

Seriously..

Big_Lou said:
(Taking notes....)

Curing/drying is the same, or? I seem to remember my brother hanging the plants upside down in the garage, tied with fishing line.
That was 30-40 years ago, though...
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They are sort of the same.
I've explained in detail a million times.. But basically.. You cut the plant, it's a cutting. Its not dead.

While drying we keep rh high. Below 40s and stomata close. The plant is working aerobically, through gas exchange the bud is broken down through respiration and hydrolysis.
A hay smell can arise if it starts to go anaerobic. That's from dif acids and ammonia breaking down. Just like what happens in a bale of hay.

The starches sugar chlorophyll and nitrates etc break down through this.

Curing the trichs is a bit dif but basically just takes time

Anyway that's the short story..
Basically both are intertwined
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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Ohh, I see.

Should have known that, as in curing tobacco for optimum quality. They do that around here in huge barns....kind of smells sweet.
 
Marijuana Mercenary

Marijuana Mercenary

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I have been using a terpine enhancer called 'Terpinator'. The name suggests it kills terpine but it makes your crop funk stronger.

As for taste, it takes me atleast a month of cure to get the vegetation taste out of the weed. If it lasts that long...
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Big_Lou said:
Ohh, I see.

Should have known that, as in curing tobacco for optimum quality. They do that around here in huge barns....kind of smells sweet.
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Only dif is we are trying to protect heat and light sensitive compounds some of which have a boiling point less than water.

Vapor pressures are non linear. Meaning that the higher the heat used to dry the more compounds are lost relative to the water content.

So we dry slow. Usually only to about 55rh

I like it to take 10-14 to dry before I can put in jars.




Tobacco they're for the most part only preserving or bringing out much heavier aromas.. Chocolate for example. Where in weed we want to preserve the lightest of compounds say apple or strawberry

Nicotine also has a really high bp.. They can kinda treat the plant like trash ..we cant
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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qwizoking said:
I think their problem is bad weed and bad cure..

I haven't come across ANYTHING in a dispensary that made me want to try a clone only that I always hear about.

I was super disapointed in gg#4

All I've heard about it.
It was just another chem/sour.
And weaker than my landrace sour

(16 weeker, chunky spongy buds a little pointed. Smells like sour garlicky trash ((my ex wife named it trucker)) with berry undertones)

Seriously..



They are sort of the same.
I've explained in detail a million times.. But basically.. You cut the plant, it's a cutting. Its not dead.

While drying we keep rh high. Below 40s and stomata close. The plant is working aerobically, through gas exchange the bud is broken down through respiration and hydrolysis.
A hay smell can arise if it starts to go anaerobic. That's from dif acids and ammonia breaking down. Just like what happens in a bale of hay.

The starches sugar chlorophyll and nitrates etc break down through this.

Curing the trichs is a bit dif but basically just takes time

Anyway that's the short story..
Basically both are intertwined
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I can think of about 6 or 7 veteran growers (10yrs +)
and NONE of them liked the gg#4
I thought it had some killer ass bag-appeal, but didn't even come close to smoking as good as it looked.
I liken it to the super hot chick that is lazy in bed... cuz she knows she is hot..
Anyways, I don't give a damn about the high THC% of it, my bluedream, jack herer, fruity toot, super jack, and madjack all shat on it, potency wise.
Looked amazing though
yet another reason why THC% mean little to me, I've smoked four strains with 30% or higher and none of them Impressed me.
It's ALL about the cannabinoid cocktail, not sure why, how, or any of that, but THC% means very little to me
 
PCXV

PCXV

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What you are smoking out of matters too. Try Purple Urkle/Mendocino Purps vs something like Hash Plant/OG Kush/Jack Herer out of a Volcano. My brothers $20 simple glass bong seems to allow way less flavor than my buddy's straight tube double circle/matrix perc.
 
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