I need a reliable source of medicine - Ontario - SSM

cannadan said:

wow guys....sorry to interject here...sounds like the SSM is a kinda scarey place to hang out...
I would have never thought this....I always think of northern type cities as being kind of timid...say in comparison to TO.
sounds like this is not the case...

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what it is is , a small town so all the crime is pretty much everywhere and you cant get away from it, not that there is a HUGE amount of it but that youre kinda stuck in it because of how small the city is. so if someone breaks into someones house , you will hear it cause that someone is a friend of someone whos aunt is someone whos child is this persons friend etc. etc.

gotcha...its just that you hear about every crime going on ....due to the small nature of the city...
and in comparison to the area's around it....it must be a big city in contrast....
would there be an influx of small time criminals...from the surrounding rural area's? who use the cover of a bigger city
to perpetrate their crimes...

cannadan said:

gotcha...its just that you hear about every crime going on ....due to the small nature of the city...
and in comparison to the area's around it....it must be a big city in contrast....
would there be an influx of small time criminals...from the surrounding rural area's? who use the cover of a bigger city
to perpetrate their crimes...

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its only been the last decade or so that its gotten pretty high in crime.
so were only a city of 75, 000 ..and its pretty rural so its like spread out but the crime is everywhere

Weve had a really unfortunate high amount of murders for a canadian city , like i think 5 or 6? in the last little bit.
one of the murders the guy actually was chopped up into pieces

now these murders are not random acts of violence, so that is the only good plus side (althought sad for the families this happened to)

If you go down to the Rez area it can be a little sketch but that is mostly due to inter-generational trauma and poverty.

The problem this city has is the youth and young adult workforce they have no jobs. theres no work in this city but you cant leave the city because youre in poverty , theres a lot of "hidden homelessness" which is people who have shelter but only can get ontario works (welfare) now 600$ is pretty much the cap on welfare, you cant live off that , it pretty much only pays rent, this leads to crime.
Theres little to no opportunity for people who grew up in poverty , they stay in poverty, with the lack of jobs in SSM this creates crime, and crime goes hand in hand in hard substance abuse and alcoholism.
There are a lot of drugs in this city,and unfortunately many people use them.

I have been fortunate enough to find good work employment and go get an education and push myself hard to getting a career, because when I was working minimum wage it was never enough I would have to have 2 part time jobs because no one here wants to give someone a fulltime job because than they have to give benefits.

What we need is better employment opportunities and bigger corporations to create more jobs to help get some people out of poverty, these people want to work unfortunately they use crime as a job because they cant get employed anywhere else

that's eye opening...for me..I often wonder how it is for kids today starting out in the job market...
I have 3 girls and one is in the work force now ,one in university and one in high school...
My oldest...has done really well...she graduated from university..in molecular biology and genetic's and graduated standing right beside David Suzuki who got an honourary degree....the same day..
she's is like her Mom
who received the lieutenant Gov. medal and Queen Elizabeth medal...for highest aggregate marks in the province of Nove Scotia) years ago...
dean's list every year..(proud Dad) applied with 6 huge corps...once out of school and she stressed about it quite a bit...
However in the long run...she was offered all 6 jobs...and even was chastised by one of the bigger corps...human resources manager...for turning down the job there....lol
She is exceptional person and has done really well...and has advanced already in the company she is with...
enough with the bragging..sorry .lol
I worry about the other two... they are less motivated by studying...like their older sister..
they are hands on people..my middle girl is a chef...has her papers and certifications...just didn't like the job that much...
once in the work force.....now she back in university try to become a nutritionist
youngest... is in grade 12 has never worked for money..has excellent marks in school so to her mom and I think
she is doing her job right now....so we don't pressure her....

we are in a rural area...and its rare to have a crime here beyond some impaired driving charges or the occasional assault charge...Its not that a murder can't happen here....because there has been a couple...
but they are usually years and years between....and usually a love triangle...or some crime of passion.

cannadan said:

that's eye opening...for me..I often wonder how it is for kids today starting out in the job market...
I have 3 girls and one is in the work force now ,one in university and one in high school...
My oldest...has done really well...she graduated from university..in molecular biology and genetic's and graduated standing right beside David Suzuki who got an honourary degree....the same day..
she's is like her Mom
who received the lieutenant Gov. medal and Queen Elizabeth medal...for highest aggregate marks in the province of Nove Scotia) years ago...
dean's list every year..(proud Dad) applied with 6 huge corps...once out of school and she stressed about it quite a bit...
However in the long run...she was offered all 6 jobs...and even was chastised by one of the bigger corps...human resources manager...for turning down the job there....lol
She is exceptional person and has done really well...and has advanced already in the company she is with...
enough with the bragging..sorry .lol
I worry about the other two... they are less motivated by studying...like their older sister..
they are hands on people..my middle girl is a chef...has her papers and certifications...just didn't like the job that much...
once in the work force.....now she back in university try to become a nutritionist
youngest... is in grade 12 has never worked for money..has excellent marks in school so to her mom and I think
she is doing her job right now....so we don't pressure her....

we are in a rural area...and its rare to have a crime here beyond some impaired driving charges or the occasional assault charge...Its not that a murder can't happen here....because there has been a couple...
but they are usually years and years between....and usually a love triangle...or some crime of passion.

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sounds like you have provided your children with excellent opportunities for them to pursue passions and get education
unforuantely the cycle of poverty is terrible and usually once a child is born into it the factors throughout highschool become rough if the childs parents are suffering with addiction, mental health issues, inter-generational trauma the childs life is impacted through their parents decisions, now often this will lead to the child either having parents who seem to not care, or having the child kicked out of the home in the highschool years

than the cycle of poverty continues because than the child must work full time in order to provide for themselves, they end up skipping out on post secondary education than due to lack of jobs in the surrounding area, drug abuse , alcoholism and crime continues
if the child grew up in a home with substance abuse or alcoholism they are more likely to think its acceptable to do , its a learned behavioral trait EX: dad comes home from work has a beer doesnt talk, ..they will repeat that because its a environmental social learned skill even though its not directly told to them.

sadly the drug ,crime and poverty rate is quite high here and it is in direct correlation to the poverty in this town, lack of jobs its a big thing here as we dont have any resources

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its surprising that the government can't try and spur industry and life time type ... jobs
in the northern cities....especially since its needed so badly for the youth....
How hard is it to give huge incentives for companies about to set up shop in Canada.
Places like North Bay,Sudbury,the Sault, Elliot lake...and so on....
Personally I think MMJ is a big Election issue .....but really it pales in comparison to something like youth employment,

They can't ignore it much longer....really...

cannadan said:

its surprising that the government can't try and spur industry and life time type ... jobs
in the northern cities....especially since its needed so badly for the youth....
How hard is it to give huge incentives for companies about to set up shop in Canada.
Places like North Bay,Sudbury,the Sault, Elliot lake...and so on....
Personally I think MMJ is a big Election issue .....but really it pales in comparison to something like youth employment,

They can't ignore it much longer....really...

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sudbury is pretty ok on work though they are like easily 3x bigger than soo. im actually from there and wish i could go back. I bet i could find a job in less than 2 days or at least get an interview, just bus to each populated store area, hand out resumes, than wait.

here its all local businesses who refuse to hire people
like 10 major companies you need massive qualifications to pass an interview IE: steel plant, tenaris, (they also lay off every few months at least 2000 people), CN RAIL which used to be the biggest employer now has like maybe 100 people working there, and they arent hiring many others until some of the older guys retire which wont be for a long while
One mall which is fully staffed, hardly ever see hiring there
and fast food chains like tim hortons,
and 2 call centers, which you can make a good salary at if youre lucky enough to mentally handle it, or get hired.

wow does seem kinda bleak for an out-look...for the youth...
probably why...so many 20 year old's I know around here spend all their time
in the parents basement playing ....video games..and the like....the area we live in is very depressed job wise...
My kids have no choice...but to move away for jobs....though my oldest did land a well paying federal gov job with parks Canada, 3 min walk from our house....with the trent canal system....(that's is the only dream job around here....)
I was so proud when she landed that job....and kept it for summer employment all thru university...
other than the locks.....there is only a corner store...around here...and 1 diner who only hires a dish washer.,..
so without a car....to drive...your out of luck....and everything is a 1/2 hour or more drive in every direction....
There is not a lot of incentive to get out of bed ...in the morning around here...for the kids...
You would think bigger centers like the sault....could attract lasting businesses...
they have the advantage of 3 huge water bodies...withing 1/2 hour in pretty much every direction..

cannadan said:

wow does seem kinda bleak for an out-look...for the youth...
probably why...so many 20 year old's I know around here spend all their time
in the parents basement playing ....video games..and the like....the area we live in is very depressed job wise...
My kids have no choice...but to move away for jobs....though my oldest did land a well paying federal gov job with parks Canada, 3 min walk from our house....with the trent canal system....(that's is the only dream job around here....)
I was so proud when she landed that job....and kept it for summer employment all thru university...
other than the locks.....there is only a corner store...around here...and 1 diner who only hires a dish washer.,..
so without a car....to drive...your out of luck....and everything is a 1/2 hour or more drive in every direction....
There is not a lot of incentive to get out of bed ...in the morning around here...for the kids...
You would think bigger centers like the sault....could attract lasting businesses...
they have the advantage of 3 huge water bodies...withing 1/2 hour in pretty much every direction..

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Yeah unfortunately its a pretty dying city, unless you are a steel plant worker, or can land a job in something like Hydro , or if you decide to open up a small business yourself.

there isnt many jobs here for regular people who havent gotten a degree or diploma ina specific job field suited to here, and even than those places lay off like you wouldnt believe it.

I get laid off at the end of every summer, luckily for me im a student so its the perfect job really than I work part time here employed by the city, (dont wanna say WHERE I work ssm is small and people reading this can figure out who I am )

gotcha...while a student....you still have the opportunity to be flexible...so those jobs are the best ones....
its unfortunate that someone doesn't invest in a drying community....they have the most to offer labour wise
as well as technical skills....cause lets face it....if everyone from the Sault for example...who was born there returned with the skill set they have managed...to develope while they were away working somewhere else....there would be plenty of specialist skill sets to pick from as a potential employer....and who doesn't have special ties to their place of birth....

My wife is from Cape Breton Nova Scotia....
an area as far back as I can remember that has had unemployment numbers in the high 50's percent...
meaning every other person is unemployed....they are the nicest people in the country....but they have tried everything...
to get companies to locate there.....but have never been able to maintain anything...as long term employment...
and its not that huge corps haven't tried...but they seem to use the tax advantages to their favor....
and then ditch...on the people working their....usually leaving the workers,,,to form a corp,,and take over the business....
and then eventually down the tubes when the market changes slightly

cannadan said:

gotcha...while a student....you still have the opportunity to be flexible...so those jobs are the best ones....

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LOL i wish, i go to school 40 hours a week than work an additional 35 ..
Ontop of renting my own apartment taking care of my dog, and than home time is usually homework.
But the reason i had to work is because of Canadas "lovely" financial aid for students however thats a whole nother covo. LOL

well I'd love to tell you...how things get so much better...with respect to jobs and work....
but I'm at the other end of my career...and I'm still putting in 65 to 80 hours a week ..
my customers that I do consulting for...would love for me to take on even more...work...
so at least I do so on my own terms...
as far as financial aid...in the Canada's your 100 percent right...
My girls basically have bumped their heads against that same hurdle,,,all thru school...
at least I was glad to see all the hard work my oldest put in to her schooling.. paid off
when it came to securing a good paying job with benefits../bonuses/ and incentives..
and a future....

cannadan said:

well I'd love to tell you...how things get so much better...with respect to jobs and work....
but I'm at the other end of my career...and I'm still putting in 65 to 80 hours a week ..
my customers that I do consulting for...would love for me to take on even more...work...
so at least I do so on my own terms...
as far as financial aid...in the Canada's your 100 percent right...
My girls basically have bumped their heads against that same hurdle,,,all thru school...
at least I was glad to see all the hard work my oldest put in to her schooling.. paid off
when it came to securing a good paying job with benefits../bonuses/ and incentives..
and a future....

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oh dontget me wrong 80 hour work weeks im used to.
im not as young as you probably think im hitting 25, and ive lived on my own since 17

So unlike other college students who stil live at home, and dont need a part time job to pay for food and live , i get the shit end of the stick

It's us mature students who have mortagages , or rent to pay, with bills, dependents (i dont have kids but lets just throw that in for argument sake since 25 is not unrealistic to have children), etc. its us who get shafted by the government in terms of OSAP

College is EXTREMELy hard to do if youre not someone living with your parents or on the college residence , or living in a house with 5-6 other students.
Now at 25 there is no way in hell youd see me do any of those three options, communal living isnt my jam, im simply too old ontop of being too old ive already established a homestead with a dog.
the average room per month is 500$ my apartment 600$ , 100$ savings per month is not enough to make me want to live with 5 other annoying fucktwits 8 years younger than me. lol

anyways , osap certainly doesnt give enough to live off, they gave me 17,000$ for the year which is split up per term.
im sure youre aware that most of that money goes to tuition, books , deferral fees, bus passes, extra health care plan (which you cant opt out of),
tuition obviously eats up most of that at a staggering 10,000$, books even used rack up another 2,000
deferral fees, a whopping 500$,
that leaves an average of 4,500$ for rent , food and other necessities.

4,500$, doesnt even cover my rent for the school year.

so we see where the problem lies. hence the need to work to live during the school year.

In my opinion students should not have to work full time or close to fulltime in order to live.
I know a lot of older generations argue that if you dont have a job in school youre not really working for it , however most students who give a shit really wanna push for a 4.0 gpa, like myself.

How can one obtain and maintain 100% attendance, push a 4.0 gpa, finish all homework and assignments ontime while working 35+ hours.
Its all impossible. something has to give. whether its me taking an extra shift while I should be at school, or im too tired to possibly even pick up a pen after work to do homework.

I know student loans really put students in debt but I would rather be in more in debt , than have to work 35+ hours just to barely scrape by during the school year ontop of 40 hour class weeks and all the extra homework they give.
We need a more customizable plan it askes very detailed info when you sign up for osap, if youre a mature student who lives on their own it should give you the option to increase your osap and go more into debt or not.

I actually spoke to the premier of ontario about this issue, the huge problem is that theres a direct correlation between academic success and nutritional eating yet we cant even afford rent. Stress is a HUGE problem on mental health if youre worried about how youre going to make rent or eat that day, than how can we be successful in studys?
Not to mention osap always takes way too long to come in, you do your due diligence by paying your deferrals making sure all your information is correct yet osap comes around and it gets held 25 days or so into the start of each semester..
technically BY LAW students who dont have osap cant even come into the classroom. they let us anyways, but you cant do homework because you have no books, youre starving by the 20th day of the second semester because if you were lucky enough to manage your money properly through the first semester and through christmas break you MAYBE have 20$ to your name at that point.

sorry i went off on a rant!
I've really enjoyed this conversation with you though

I know I'm behind the 8 ball here...

My fiance is from the Sault.. Her mom and step dad still live there. (Rumor has it they are "well connected" in the cannabis trade there) ..this is speculation. Anyways.. Wasn't there a drug related shooting in the Sault a few months back?


My girl says the Sault is a shit whole.. Her dad actually refuses to go back there unless absolutely necessary.

nsbudca said:

I know I'm behind the 8 ball here...

My fiance is from the Sault.. Her mom and step dad still live there. (Rumor has it they are "well connected" in the cannabis trade there) ..this is speculation. Anyways.. Wasn't there a drug related shooting in the Sault a few months back?


My girl says the Sault is a shit whole.. Her dad actually refuses to go back there unless absolutely necessary.

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there was last month i think, down near gore st. (LOL ) i have to walk by that house to get home from work actually in the summer.
i know the name of the street and its like the worst area too.

that was a crack/heroin house, theres lots of prostitution here too like very out in the open
there was also a girl who got shot in the face a month or so ago...by her boyfriend apparently it was an "accident" now im not sure how you shoot someone point blank int he face on accident but she lived.

this city is small theres only a few big names i would consider well connected to the cannabis trade, anyone else who sells usually gets it from someone who got it from someone who sells it gram by gram

sunni said:

there was last month i think, down near gore st. (LOL ) i have to walk by that house to get home from work actually in the summer.
i know the name of the street and its like the worst area too.

that was a crack/heroin house, theres lots of prostitution here too like very out in the open
there was also a girl who got shot in the face a month or so ago...by her boyfriend apparently it was an "accident" now im not sure how you shoot someone point blank int he face on accident but she lived.

this city is small theres only a few big names i would consider well connected to the cannabis trade, anyone else who sells usually gets it from someone who got it from someone who sells it gram by gram

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Shit. Even Scotia is getting out of hand..sophisticated home invasions.. Most committed by teens in street gangs..in the Halifax area mostly. Becoming common occurrences.

Sounds like it's a bit rough around the edges there. Mother in law has been trying to convince us to move there. Lol I'm thinking not.

nsbudca said:

Shit. Even Scotia is getting out of hand..sophisticated home invasions.. Most committed by teens in street gangs..in the Halifax area mostly. Becoming common occurrences.

Sounds like it's a bit rough around the edges there. Mother in law has been trying to convince us to move there. Lol I'm thinking not.

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its really not bad unless youre involved in crime. and by invovled i mean , like someone whos selling drugs, or using hard drugs.

If youre just a regular joe who works, and smokes pot you really have nothing to fear.
I mean just about everyone in their life time gets a break in or something stole, or their car broken into.
The nature here is BEAUTIFUL just drop dead gorgeous.
if you did ever more here
1. we need to go for coffee
2. buy a home in Central / On the hill location.

no one ever has crime happen there my parents have lived in that area for over 15 years and nothing has happened its more middle class affordable homes , but its central so youre walking distance to both malls, and shopping and the boardwalk.
its a great area.

sunni said:

its really not bad unless youre involved in crime. and by invovled i mean , like someone whos selling drugs, or using hard drugs.

If youre just a regular joe who works, and smokes pot you really have nothing to fear.
I mean just about everyone in their life time gets a break in or something stole, or their car broken into.
The nature here is BEAUTIFUL just drop dead gorgeous.
if you did ever more here
1. we need to go for coffee
2. buy a home in Central / On the hill location.

no one ever has crime happen there my parents have lived in that area for over 15 years and nothing has happened its more middle class affordable homes , but its central so youre walking distance to both malls, and shopping and the boardwalk.
its a great area.

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Thanks for the insight bro