I killed my fourth male today. . .

CinnamonGirl said:

Yes, you're right-- statistically speaking I probably will get some girls and the trannies are cool too. I'm depressed because I loved those plants. I wish the males had some use. Maybe it's wrong to kill the males-- maybe we were meant to smoke seedy weed-- but then that means we were meant to smoke--which is kinda weird if you think about it. . .how did humans figure out the whole ritual of smoking I wonder. . . .good lord I'm stoned

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Males do have use. Cannabis is dioecious, after all.

1. Pollination. For obvious reasons.

2. Observation. Sometimes I let a male grow out just for fun. All precautions taken, of course.

It's very entertaining and educational. It gives you a very clear idea of the time span between bananas and pollen burst.

The same applies for Hermans, too.

1. Pollination. For obvious reasons.

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i have some 3000+ seeds, from around 20 different strains which i have "collected" over the last 4 years. i breed a seed crop once a year (one mail, many strains of female) just to make sure i have a large variation of genetics.

some of them dont work out. i probably kill 2 plants for every 1 i keep when im growing from seed.

90% of the time i grow from clones because its faster and easier, and it allows me to keep my seed stock for later occasions

It's very entertaining and educational.

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Take a male, and do all the things your scared to do to your good plants to the male push it to its limits. see what it can take. that way you know what your good plants can take, whats good and whats bad..... you learn ALOT doing this.

Fem seeds=not killing off most of your crop. Just sayin' .

bowlfullofbliss said:

Fem seeds=not killing off most of your crop. Just sayin' .

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Fems are great....

If that is what you are after.

For cloning purposes, all you need is one.

But fems are artificial.

And not completely precise.

There's that 'Hakuna Matata' thing again.

....Just Saying.

You dont gata kill the males, play with genetics and find some nice mothers

Nice strong male + Nice strong female = more plants to chose from.

But fems are artificial.

And not completely precise.

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^ This. im starting to like you more and more JonnyO. Feminized seeds have a chance of being XX(yx) rather than XX(xx) which gives them a much higher chance of becoming hermaphrodites (Whether some people believe in the science of genetics or not... it still happens...)

Artificial life = Not as pure as Natural life.

personaly i find that i get the strongest, purest strains from searching for a specific phenotype within a given strain. after you find just the PERFECT pheno, grow it many time so you know exactly what it wants.... you can get some POWERFUL smoke.

we started smoking it as we originally grew the plant for fiber and for seeds to eat,so we would burn any material left as it made a use for it,(keeping us warm)just so happened that the fumes got us high and also smelt nice,so we started burning it in side teepee like tents,that was the Scythian's I think.

CinnamonGirl said:

Yes, you're right-- statistically speaking I probably will get some girls and the trannies are cool too. I'm depressed because I loved those plants. I wish the males had some use. Maybe it's wrong to kill the males-- maybe we were meant to smoke seedy weed-- but then that means we were meant to smoke--which is kinda weird if you think about it. . .how did humans figure out the whole ritual of smoking I wonder. . . .good lord I'm stoned

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we started burning it in side teepee like tents,that was the Scythian's I think.

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it goes back further than that actualy. we can track it in written language back as far as 2000 B.C http://antiquecannabisbook.com/chap1/Asyria.htm

it was used as a medacine, and it was often smoked with other barks through en earthen mound pipe

CinnamonGirl said:

six seedlings left. . .I need some girl voodoo vibes. . . send them this way please! I'm so depressed.

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Voodoo vibes your way girl.

I would say if your seeds are low, let the males grow to replenish your stock. I'm with the ones who say fem seeds just aren't natural.

It will date back further than that,we have been growing crops for 10.000-13.000 years, so corn/wheat and hemp would of been the main stays,bearing in mind that the first civilization was in iraq (a place called gobeki tepe) which dates to 13000 years ago,so I imagine it was a case of burning the remaining plant matter just to make use of it,getting us high n smelling nice like I said, so my point minus the Scythian's was right

Corbat420 said:

it goes back further than that actualy. we can track it in written language back as far as 2000 B.C http://antiquecannabisbook.com/chap1/Asyria.htm

it was used as a medacine, and it was often smoked with other barks through en earthen mound pipe

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CinnamonGirl said:

six seedlings left. . .I need some girl voodoo vibes. . . send them this way please! I'm so depressed.

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be glad you have seedlings, ive got a tray full of pot seeds ginsing jasta greenbean chammomile and more and nothing has sprouted its been a week or more.

silasraven said:

be glad you have seedlings, ive got a tray full of pot seeds ginsing jasta greenbean chammomile and more and nothing has sprouted its been a week or more.

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that is unfortunate. do you just put them in the soil? i like to soak mine will i see a root tap and then plant. you know if it is a good seed or not.

so my point minus the Scythian's was right

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one portion yes, but again with your statement DATING the use or marijuana you are in the wrong.... we were using it when we were a nomadic tribe.

in a Back Issue of cannabis culture: http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc03/split.html

Several researchers have indicated that the use of cannabis by the native peoples of what is now known as North America pre-dates the arrival of Europeans in 1492. Early explorer Jacques Cartier, who was from a hemp growing district in France, reported hemp growing here and in use by the native Indians. [SUP]1[/SUP]
Solid historical evidence of Native American use of cannabis was provided when archaeologist Bill Fitzgerald discovered five hundred year old pipes in Morriston, Ontario. Resin scrapings showed that the pipes contained "traces of hemp and tobacco that is five times stronger than the cigarettes smoked today." [SUP]2[/SUP]

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Which means Cannabis would have been in use before the Land Bridge melted and was brought over with us, as a nomadic peoples. (yes, the article sites its sources as well...)

My point is you can not date the use of cannabis.