Learning2Hydro
Active Member
Interesting. I can only imagine the commercials you would see on TV if that happened. Budweiser might have some serious competition. But then, cannabis commercials wouldn't have to gloss over so many negatives.
I Got Mad Ripped by a Club
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budlover13
King Tut
True. i have been considering our financial situation and losing our status as the world's Reserve Currency and can see it being accepted as medicine in the financial disaster that will surely follow.
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
There will be an awful lot of "getting back to basics." MRI's don't run for free. They're 10k a pop upwards.
budlover13
King Tut
Most definitely. But they wouldn't be $10,000 a scan if the insurance companies and Dr's would set reasonable reimbursement schedules but instead the Dr charges $25,000 because he knows the insurance company will trim as much as they can off the bill so he pads it. Then the insurance company pays at time 100% of the claim at at other times only 10%. Comes back to greedy, money-hungry, egotistical, self-righteous, vile, people imho. Not only Dr's and insurance, but in society as a whole.
My wife runs HR and Billing for a large healthcare facility. i'm on the inside.
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
Ah, so you know then. I used to be on the inside too, glad I'm not anymore.
budlover13
King Tut
Yeah. The insanity of it all drives me nuts. Take a $100 med bill, spend $100 in manhours to cut it to 3 cents(Yes, i have seen a few checks in that amount) and THEN pay postage to mail it! LOL! And people wonder why it's all screwed up.
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
...and yet we want the government to run it for us? Yeah, its crazy. Anywho, what were we discussing?
budlover13
King Tut
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
So working at a collective isn't what it appears to be on the surface? Sounds more and more like just working for Wal-Mart.
budlover13
King Tut
My collective(the one i patronize) is one hell of a gig. Decent pay(nobody talks much but it's assumed $10-12/hr plus full dental, vision, and health insurance. 32 employees, 1 free g each time you work too. Not going to get rich, but not half bad either imho.
budlover13
King Tut
i hear you Harrekin! A little extra shrubbery, some ferts & water, ......If it was legal like that over here I'd dig up my lawn and replace it with a more purposeful green plant
EDIT: Budlover that's a fucking awesome job! If only I lived in the US...
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
Damn man, wish we had that where I am. Beats the hell out of what I'm stuck doing at the moment.
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
So he pretty much knew exactly what he was doing.
budlover13
King Tut
Which strengthens the argument of those like i that think the system is jacked as it stands. AND proves OP's initial claim imo.
Learning2Hydro
Active Member
Agreed. Bad deal there.
Fadeleaf Farms
Member
I'm just randomly jumping in here... but I really enjoyed a lot of your earlier discussion about different tiers developing in the market. I recently left the high end coffee and tea industry and got to see a similar situation unfolding there.
Most of America regularly consumes coffee in some form or another, but for most of the time period Americans have been drinking coffee, they've been drinking straight mass produced garbage coffee. Its just a cup of something hot and caffeinated they can guzzle down every day. I was surprised how many people actually dont even like the taste of the crap they drink every morning but just drink it anyway because it gets the job done and its cheap and available.
In the last decade or so things have started changing. People are slowly starting to figure out that good quality coffee thats actually fresh (i'm a snob dont get me started...) can actually taste really amazing and have all kinds of complexities and nuances just like you'd find in high end wine. As demand slowly starts to shift towards better quality, the market has really changed, and many of the mass producers are having to change their focus towards better quality to keep their share of the market.
There will always be people out there that just want a cup of hot, caffeinated dark colored beverage and dont give a shit what it tastes like, and those people can keep buying $3 cans of Maxwell House, but for those with a little more taste looking for the full experience, theres now a whole new world of tasty interesting possibilities to discover now that the market is opening up to the idea of quality>quantity.
As crap gets figured out legally, socially, politically ect. with marijuana I feel like the same thing is going to have to happen and its already kinda starting. I love that all the good clubs near me usually have $15-20 1/8ths for when I'm feeling poor, and $60 1/8ths of amazingness for when I feel like things are going well.
I imagine a world where those looking to "get the job done" can get $3-$5 grams of decent stuff, and those looking to "get their minds blown" can get 15$-$20 grams of smokeable sex. Just like some of us buy Walmart crap coffee for $3 a 5lb tub while some of us have discovered the advantages of coffee that costs $10-$20 a lb and will never go back to drinking that garbage.
(like I said... I'm a coffee/tea snob... lol)
Also the way I see it, more people growing (even if a lot of it is mass produced crap) does lead to more competition for exisiting growers, which admittedly will probably turn out bad for some of them. BUT more people growing can also only inevitably lead to an overall increase in quality across the whole market as connoisseur growers (just like small quality coffee companies) compete with each other to grow the best stuff imaginable and mass producers compete among themselves to supply the market with a better cheap product than their competitors (like Folgers, Yuban ect).
In the end it looks to me like everyone comes out ahead, except maybe some of the crappy growers growing mediocre bud while only in the game to try to make a quick buck who won't be able to compete with the prices/quantity of the mass producers or the quality of the connoisseur growers... and do we really need them anyway?
anyway... that concludes my long rambly 2cents.
lol
Most of America regularly consumes coffee in some form or another, but for most of the time period Americans have been drinking coffee, they've been drinking straight mass produced garbage coffee. Its just a cup of something hot and caffeinated they can guzzle down every day. I was surprised how many people actually dont even like the taste of the crap they drink every morning but just drink it anyway because it gets the job done and its cheap and available.
In the last decade or so things have started changing. People are slowly starting to figure out that good quality coffee thats actually fresh (i'm a snob dont get me started...) can actually taste really amazing and have all kinds of complexities and nuances just like you'd find in high end wine. As demand slowly starts to shift towards better quality, the market has really changed, and many of the mass producers are having to change their focus towards better quality to keep their share of the market.
There will always be people out there that just want a cup of hot, caffeinated dark colored beverage and dont give a shit what it tastes like, and those people can keep buying $3 cans of Maxwell House, but for those with a little more taste looking for the full experience, theres now a whole new world of tasty interesting possibilities to discover now that the market is opening up to the idea of quality>quantity.
As crap gets figured out legally, socially, politically ect. with marijuana I feel like the same thing is going to have to happen and its already kinda starting. I love that all the good clubs near me usually have $15-20 1/8ths for when I'm feeling poor, and $60 1/8ths of amazingness for when I feel like things are going well.
I imagine a world where those looking to "get the job done" can get $3-$5 grams of decent stuff, and those looking to "get their minds blown" can get 15$-$20 grams of smokeable sex. Just like some of us buy Walmart crap coffee for $3 a 5lb tub while some of us have discovered the advantages of coffee that costs $10-$20 a lb and will never go back to drinking that garbage.
(like I said... I'm a coffee/tea snob... lol)Also the way I see it, more people growing (even if a lot of it is mass produced crap) does lead to more competition for exisiting growers, which admittedly will probably turn out bad for some of them. BUT more people growing can also only inevitably lead to an overall increase in quality across the whole market as connoisseur growers (just like small quality coffee companies) compete with each other to grow the best stuff imaginable and mass producers compete among themselves to supply the market with a better cheap product than their competitors (like Folgers, Yuban ect).
In the end it looks to me like everyone comes out ahead, except maybe some of the crappy growers growing mediocre bud while only in the game to try to make a quick buck who won't be able to compete with the prices/quantity of the mass producers or the quality of the connoisseur growers... and do we really need them anyway?
anyway... that concludes my long rambly 2cents.
lol
R3DROCk9
Active Member
five dollar grams...mids....yes
high grade/cronic/crippie wutever you wanna call it is too time consuming, too much studying, too much trial and error, too much rent, too much electricity, stress, bs, and everything else to be $5 a gram, tho.