I found this article interesting

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...zation-may-win-the-west-and-dc-in-2014?page=3

I subsequently went to

http://saferarizona.com

I was unaware of this effort, and thought others may be as well.

We're a ways from 300,000 sigs to get this on the ballot, but 59% of public support is encouraging. Screw 2016, let's do this now!

be careful....legalization can open the door to much more regulation. See WA and what is happening to MMJ. They are not getting a very good deal with "legal for all"...

we need to pressure the fed to remove mj from Schedule1 and dropped to nothing more than alcohol and the ability to brew 200 gal of beer or wine per yr w/o govt intervention.

Yeah so lets all just wait 50 years for exactly the right ballot initiative. They're more than a ways from 300,000 signatures, it's not going to happen this year.

This might happen this year, thoughts?

http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/51leg/2r/bills/hb2474p.htm&Session_ID=112

how have you not heard of this? I guess people need to get the word out more... I know that this movement is not being backed by any of the big groups like MPP. MPP has their own initiative they are going to push for in 2016... they claim that they don't want to support this one because they don't think it has a chance of making it, which could be true, but the more likely reason is that they and their rich investors want to come up with their own ballot initiative written THEIR way for 2016, which most likely will be written in such a way that is best for their own wallets and not best for the people of Arizona (much like the bullshit 25 mile rule that the MPP snuck into the MMJ initiative, probably for the same people)

compassionatecaregiver said:

the more likely reason is that they and their rich investors want to come up with their own ballot initiative written THEIR way for 2016, which most likely will be written in such a way that is best for their own wallets and not best for the people of Arizona (much like the bullshit 25 mile rule that the MPP snuck into the MMJ initiative, probably for the same people)

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It seems like it still boils down to Kervork's observation: is it better to wait decades for the perfect freedom? Would it be "better" to have lawful recreational use, making MJ much more accessible to *everyone*?

To me, it seems like more people smoking would make it even harder to enforce a ban on home growing. If you smell lawful grass smoking *everywhere*, odors from a home grow would be less suspicious.

I understand the politics you're emphasizing: When monied interests have a larger "demand" for their limited "supply," they'll use their money to fight legalization of personal growing. But, when more people are smoking -- and bans on personal growing become absurdly unenforceable -- it will just be a matter of time.

I think it all boils down to the question: are we better off. If recreation use is legalized, that's a net gain compared to where we are. We still wouldn't have the freedom I think we should. But, it's still more.