I found a great website for deficiencies

BeefSteak

Member
Not to sound like a killjoy but def charts did nothing to help me grow some dank! Basically you need to work your two part fertilizers better and past that trace elements and cal/mag. You say Nitrogen deficiency and i say up the grow fert, you say boron def and i say add some liquid seaweed. Chasing single nute deficiencies dose little for finding out exactly what you are doing wrong.

After you find out Nitrogen def the next question is always what has Nitrogen in it? - Answer is your veg ferts!

Sorry that i subscribe to a different school of thinking and cant use them grow charts for jack!
 
You are more than welcome, thats the best one I have seen so far. I like starting from a known place instead of just shooting in the dark. Shotgun approaches work, but they can be costly... Hope you solve your problem.... One major symptom of overwatering is drooping leaves I believe
 

BeefSteak

Member
One has to start somewhere and guessing doesn't seem like much of a somewhere to start from to me personally
Experience dosent leave anyone guessing! If you follow the fert chart to the letter its not always whats right for the weed plant but if you have experience and knowledge of what you have added and what the plants are eating per feed by monitoring runoff then yes it can be that simple.

True pros mix up their own single supplements to make a complete fertilizer in the right and relevant nutrient levels, what are you asking me to do, screw around with single nutrient supplements or learn how to use fertilizers labled 'A' and 'B' like all new growers need to?

Add to much bloom in flowering and yer that lockout is gona look like lots of things, those charts only ever work if you are deficient in one single nutrient and with todays fertilizers its mainly the grower going wrong not the pretty much complete ferts sold in most hydro shops. Your the ones guessing using those charts, i simply need to glance at my plants and i know what they need, hardest part is getting the right amount of grow vs bloom not wether i am lacking N or P or K etc, my ferts have more than enough of these so thats all it takes! Simples but not with them charts unfortunatly!
 

BeefSteak

Member
Most of these charts have been around for years, keep posting them but most prefer to get advice of experienced growers otherwise they would just get the chart and grow some super dank skunk, as in this forum, maybe we should close down the nutrient section and just leave a pic of that chart if you think its that simple!?
 

unohu69

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yeah, i thought the droopy leaves was mainly from being rootbound, but even now after a transplant, im not seeing the perkiness i like in my ladies. But I deff notice new growth. So now im just gonna give her a day or two and keep an eye on her. the other two look good, but different strain, so they probly just drink more im guessing.
 

mysunnyboy

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Yes root bound will do it too. I have a seedling that is that way, have to water it 2x a day.
you water a seedling 2x a day? i killed many seedlings by watering too much, be careful with that. i think they need to be light weight and thirsty now before i water them and the difference has been amazing :peace:
 

jpill

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its just a reference beef.
A lot of people aren't as experienced as you say you are. I completely agree some people just over do it, lockout occurs and people start guessing. But I thought it was a great reference site. More updated with better pictures/descriptions.
 

BeefSteak

Member
its just a reference beef.
A lot of people aren't as experienced as you say you are. I completely agree some people just over do it, lockout occurs and people start guessing. But I thought it was a great reference site. More updated with better pictures/descriptions.
Is cool dude, just putting the other opinion across, sometimes what we think as simple is not so and some seem to jump from thinking deficiency to overdose and from Nitrogen def to Zinc def, seems like its never as simple as we think. Trying to identify most plant problems from a chart is in itself problematic.

Most gardeners merely strive to get all the variables right and not to try and identify the problems. We live in a world where soil mixes and fertilizers are pretty cutting edge compared to many years ago, surely it is more the growers error as to when to add the ferts and right amounts rather than when they make a small mistake try and call it a single nutrient deficiency.

Get it wrong and you have ten times the problem, dont ask what is wrong with my plant, what deficiency is this because better problem solving would come from understanding how we caused this problem in the first place and their in would lie the solution.

Charts are good but not in my experience, you need a few years to actually use them charts, very few new growers can relate to them and the subsequent discussions are very humdrum and hit and miss. Dont bash me for straying from the norm but appreciate there are other ways to fix those problems.
 
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