Hygrozyme? Is it worth the money?

Lol Im going for beneficial bacteria .ur bases nutrient and ph .hydroguard from botanicare is very cheap 1 gallon Last you 4000litters .i use dyna gro foliage and grow very cheap and produce my Best yield and quality all in one complet and cheap .and forget the hygrozym bacteria Will keep everything clean and no h202 in that Will kill your root plant grow faster with beneficial bacteria.

SSHZ said:

Flying Skull also makes a 2-part enzyme called Z7, which is also very effective and quite cheap. A small bottle lasts me at least 2 large crops.........

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It also has citric acid in it. I swear by this stuff.

SSHZ said:

Flying Skull also makes a 2-part enzyme called Z7, which is also very effective and quite cheap. A small bottle lasts me at least 2 large crops.........

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def flying skull z7. Been using it for awhile now. The hygrozyme everytime I used it shitted up my roots with a brown slimey stain

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Gh mirco&bloom
BulletproofSi (silica)
Floralicious+ (kelp, amino, fulvic and humic acid)
Mag sulfate
Potassium sulfate
Z7 enyme cleaner

Floralicious+ was free, but caused some nitrogen toxicity. Prolly won't use that again.

To me, all the similar products work pretty well, there are many "zymes" on the market by various vendors but the Z7 is quite effective and cheaper then the rest. Flying Skull sent me a free 2 part sample a few years back after ordering a mite product, and I've been using it with good success ever since......

SSHZ said:

To me, all the similar products work pretty well, there are many "zymes" on the market by various vendors but the Z7 is quite effective and cheaper then the rest. Flying Skull sent me a free 2 part sample a few years back after ordering a mite product, and I've been using it with good success ever since......

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I've been running their powdered nutrients line too here and there. Can't say that I like powders but those can easily be made liquid by mixing with water.

I saw those on their website but hadn't heard or read anything about them yet......surprised they didn't include some free samples on my last order a couple of weeks ago. But I'm happy with my nute line I use so why change up....

SSHZ said:

I saw those on their website but hadn't heard or read anything about them yet......surprised they didn't include some free samples on my last order a couple of weeks ago. But I'm happy with my nute line I use so why change up....

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I hit them with an email stating I couldn't find nuke em anywhere here so they gave me 40 percent off a gallon but it was still pricey.
After that I looked for their nutrient line local , same thing, couldn't find it, wrote them again and they gave me another 40 percent off so I bought the medium package.4 lbs each of grow , bloom and micros . Two kelp products USB and On Schedule and then z7. That was the entire lineup so I kept using the protekt.

What was your code?????? LOL

What's the difference between hydroguard and hygrozyme? I use the first but not the latter, it was my understanding that hygrozyme just broke die and converted any dead organic material to useable nutrients, helping to keep things from clogging. Where as hydroguard acted against the bad bacteria from establishing a foothold, keeping the root zone healthy. I just figured I have nothing to clog so why bother lol.

^^^ meant to say broke down .

I don't use it. It's hydrogen peroxide which is a lot cheaper at a grocery store. There may be additional ingredients, usually just enough to enable them to patent it as something different. As far as enzymes...I don't think the use of that word is regulated in the supplement industry.

Hygrozyme? That doesn't have any hydrogen peroxide in it. Just an enzymatic tea with amino acids and inert carrier solution. Are you thinking of some other product?

dbkick said:

I've been running their powdered nutrients line too here and there. Can't say that I like powders but those can easily be made liquid by mixing with water.

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I bought some beanies in powdered form and it plugged my root filter I tried it again and mixed it with 90 F water and worked better but still left residue

ChemPro said:

I don't use it. It's hydrogen peroxide which is a lot cheaper at a grocery store. There may be additional ingredients, usually just enough to enable them to patent it as something different. As far as enzymes...I don't think the use of that word is regulated in the supplement industry.

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Nope it's not . H2O2 I mean .

Budley Doright said:

Nope it's not . H2O2 I mean .

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I ran it under a mass spectrometer during my undergrad and detected the presence of H202.

I then titrated it to determine how much H202 and found that it is a solution of hydrogen peroxide at 2.9% with an error variance of + or - 0.02%

Lastly I did a biuret test to detect peptide bonds. Peptide bonds form when two amino acids chain together. All enzymes have peptide bonds. I did not detect any peptide bonds hence no enzymes. So my conclusion for hygrozyme is that it is a solution of approximately 3% H202, with no active enzymes, and a few other trace molecules to alter its color, viscosity, and smell.

A couple mundane ways you could detect it as H202 is by mixing it with some of its known reactants like bleach, potash, or even some fresh blood. You'll be looking for bubbles which is water vapor and oxygen evaporating. Though that will just detect the presence of H202 and not the concentration. But a local university with a chemistry department would probably test it for you. They love it when people bring them stuff as long as you have a good story as to why you are curious. Tell them its for your kids science project, come up with something and they will do it. And ask questions, make them feel important.

I guess feel free to believe what you want about it. At the very least figure it out for yourself first hand, I obviously don't need to tell you "don't take my word for it."

^^^^^ you did not lol.

Actually I don't even use the stuff so no clue what's in it but no mention of H2O2 in the msds but perhaps they lie . Also if you pour 3% peroxide on you does it not foam? But if that's true, and yes whom am I to say, then the company would not only be selling a lie they would be selling the one thing that would nuetralize the hydroguard they also sell. And you couldn't say you tested it until questioned ..... Hmmm that was rude lol.

Budley Doright said:

Actually I don't even use the stuff so no clue what's in it but no mention of H2O2 in the msds but perhaps they lie . Also if you pour 3% peroxide on you does it not foam? But if that's true, and yes whom am I to say, then the company would not only be selling a lie they would be selling the one thing that would nuetralize the hydroguard they also sell. And you couldn't say you tested it until questioned ..... Hmmm that was rude lol.

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The MSDS, now just called SDS, is only required to list precautions and hazards and generic information relevant to safety. You won't find the recipe for coca cola on their SDS. Disclosure of the formula is not required. For supplements they have even less restrictions. Regarding my rudeness, I don't usually back claims with a "works cited" unless it's required . I didn't think that my statement was any more rude then you claiming the contrary without possessing any knowledge of the product's makeup or having used it at all. To say nothing of the "frowny face, smiley face" emoticon that I assumed was some expression of sarcasm or contempt. But I apologize for you perceiving it as rude.

There are terms like "boost, energize, revitalize" that have no legal definition that companies use for marketing puffery. When I worked at L'Oreal they advertised their shampoo as containing "essence of lavander." The only requirement to legally use that phrase was to have lavendar present near the facility. So as long as we had lavendar growing outside the facility we could claim the shampoo contained essence of lavander. It's a whole cluster fuck of legal jargon. But unless something is claiming to treat a disease or cure something there is no requirement to actually have whatever it is they are claiming to have in it. I could crush my toenails into a powder and sell it as a plant supplement and make any claim I wanted as long as it wasn't harming the plant. And even if it did harm the plant it would require a lawsuit by some angry customers before I saw any form of repercussion. But by then I'd have the product in the name of an unfunded subsidiary to reduce my liability while working on the next bottle of snake oil to sell. That's how the supplement industry stays in business