Hydro vs soil {re. potency difference}

playermic

playermic

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*I found that genetics, are the main deciding factor of overall potency of your weed. Whereas the format that you choose to grow (hydro, soil) is not so much a determining factor. Reference to My grow journal for examples of a hydro setup. Also check My recent Scrog purp posts to see a soil application.
 
No different if grown to the same standards in both mediums. I have ran nug run from hydro and soil of the same strain. Yields were .1 different. (I realize BHO yields are not an exact measure of potency but it gives u a decent starting point). Flavor and taste were also identical when hydro was flushed properly.
 
Soil for taste
Hydro for yields
Sorry, if yuve had a well grown organic nug, that bitch is waaay tastier imo.
Hydro nugs are still quality IF flushed properly :)
In the end thou, yu probably wont tell the difference.

Sir KK
 
Flushing has very little to do with the end result. Proper curing DOES!

I can get very close to the same yield of hydro in my soil grows. It took lots of time to dial that in, but it works.
My organic water only soil grows cost less then any hydro runs I have ever done. Hydro runs do finish faster!
I get better taste from soil then hydro. Hands down.

If you manage each properly, you will get no real difference in potency that would cause you to do one style over another!

Lighting, as in nm range manipulation, has the greatest effect on potency over any type of chemical manipulation. Again, this is true for either style of grow.

The simplest lighting solution for this is to run MH till the week before the "flip". Change over to HPS for 4 - 5 weeks and back to the MH and run till done. (During those last weeks of bloom under the MH. Run the MH bare [in an open wing reflector] or with the glass removed from your air cooled hood to get the "extra" UVB blocked by the borosilicate glass.

Run this side by side with the "conventionally accepted" lighting method and you will get the point!
 
Dr. Who said:
The simplest lighting solution for this is to run MH till the week before the "flip". Change over to HPS for 4 - 5 weeks and back to the MH and run till done. (During those last weeks of bloom under the MH. Run the MH bare [in an open wing reflector] or with the glass removed from your air cooled hood to get the "extra" UVB blocked by the borosilicate glass.

Run this side by side with the "conventionally accepted" lighting method and you will get the point!
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CMH > MH bro!
My first grow was with a lil 150w cmh way back. Buds were beautiful but yields werent quite there.
Now i run vert for flower 3 bulbs stacked hps - cmh - hps. First run but im thinkin ill get the quality/quanity i seek :)



Sir KK
 
god this is a crappy thread. you look at one post that says this.. then the next guy disagrees.... meanwhile everyone is "well known member"

there is no way for an outsider to look at this topic and learn a damn thing

playermic im with you on the genetics thing
 
ChiefGreens said:
god this is a crappy thread. you look at one post that says this.. then the next guy disagrees.... meanwhile everyone is "well known member"

there is no way for an outsider to look at this topic and learn a damn thing

playermic im with you on the genetics thing
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That has to do with opinion. You have the hydro camp and the soil camp. Then you have those who have been doing this for years and have tried both in many ways. Yes, it's hard to tell who has the skinny, but who replied with more detail and included some sort of "science" in the post. (I'm not going to say it was me. YOU must figure it out. Do some research on it.)

You will find plenty of disagreement in these threads. One of the most seen is "Why are my leaves turning yellow in bloom?" The pat answer is "Low N, add more N." That is wrong! Over 98% of the time, it's too much P.

I gave information on Lighting and spectral influence on potency. I suggest you look that up! Start with the effect of UV radiation on plants, specifically cannabis. Then look up PFR lighting effects on plants, again, cannabis. There is a reason that MANY well known growers use MH lighting! Some use nothing but!


Knowledge is power! Research supplies knowledge! Complaining gets you nothing.
Postings supply you with the basic idea to look up! Search, learn, improve and keep doing it. Take notes on every grow and refer to them often. Keep an open mind and cross reference information to find the reality of your doubt!

Good luck and grow on!
 
ChiefGreens said:
god this is a crappy thread. you look at one post that says this.. then the next guy disagrees.... meanwhile everyone is "well known member"

there is no way for an outsider to look at this topic and learn a damn thing

playermic im with you on the genetics thing
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Genetics plays a part but I do enjoy properly grown hydro bud more, just my opinion and only based on my grows. Probably if put to the test I could not tell the difference lol. And yup your asking a question that will get you many different opinions. Much like any questions asked here. As for potency I doubt properly grown weed in any substrate would be the deciding factor, genetics rule i think.
UncleBuck said:
no potency difference, organically grown in soil will taste better. don't listen to snaps, he has no idea what he is talking about.
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Thats quite a statement! Perhaps if you were to add "in my opinion" you wouldn't come across an ass. Oh and I have found snaps to be quite helpful and knowledgeable.
 
Idk, soil just needs less of a cure.
IF you let your hydro cure for a bit the flavors will come out.

Hydro wins on yield every time though when container volumes are identical. Ie 2 gallon dwc > yield from 2 gallons of soil
 
waterdawg said:
Thats quite a statement! Perhaps if you were to add "in my opinion" you wouldn't come across an ass. Oh and I have found snaps to be quite helpful and knowledgeable.
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lullerskates.

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Well I stand corrected lol. The RIU poll must surely be a true representation of the ops question. I truly believe that in a blind sampling of two clones side by side it would be hard to tell. I think that lots just assume organic taste better. Again this is only my take on this subject. And really I was just trying to prove a point about opinion versus fact. Sorry for the ass comment,
 
waterdawg said:
Well I stand corrected lol. The RIU poll must surely be a true representation of the ops question. I truly believe that in a blind sampling of two clones side by side it would be hard to tell. I think that lots just assume organic taste better. Again this is only my take on this subject. And really I was just trying to prove a point about opinion versus fact. Sorry for the ass comment,
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don't you ever apologize for calling me an ass!
 
waterdawg said:
Ok sorry for saying sorry lol. Just wish there was a little more politeness in the world and I am Canadian after all lol.
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You must be talking to ub. More politeness immediately resulted by my placing him on ignore status. Funny how that worked so effectively.
 
UncleBuck said:
@SnapsProvolone is an insecure little girl.
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Aww come on man. Just because he has a difference of opinion? Everyone will have a difference of opinion based on their experiences and knowledge. Irregardless of the potency aspect of the OP question, I personally like the taste of soil grows better, but I know some really good hydro growers where the taste can't be discerned between the two. I've also had really crappy weed from both mediums.

Snaps is a huge help around these forums, particularly when it comes to people not burning their houses down from electrical idiocy.

-spek
 
Organics is an acquired taste. Eat shit long enough and it will start tasting better than hydro.

The only thing that poll shows is how common the misconception is and how apparently many hydro growers suck at growing cannabis to its genetic potential.
 
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