Humboldt seeds: chemdawg

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EastCoastGenetics420

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joe blow greenthumb said:
The clones will be identical to the plant from which they were cut. If the were leafy then the clones will follow suit.
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not really.. environment can change shit.. nutrients can change shit..
using MH over HPS.. can change shit.. i mean in reality.. ive taken clones.. from a seed plant.. that lookd like shit.. but then when i got the nutes dialed in.. it was not nearly as leafy.. had bigger buds.. more resin.. and a better smell.

so saying it cant change or acclimate.. isnt a true statement.

but.. if taken from a healthy mom .. and kept healthy.. it shouldnt change much at all.. especially once u DIAL IT IN.
 
joe blow greenthumb

joe blow greenthumb

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Helping a plant reach its potential is not the same as it changing. About the only difference in a plant and its clone is clones won't grow as uniform as its mother. But the plant will still be indentical, if that makes sense. You may dial in your nutes, get the temps under control or get rid of pests but you're not changing its DNA.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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joe blow greenthumb said:
Helping a plant reach its potential is not the same as it changing. About the only difference in a plant and its clone is clones won't grow as uniform as its mother. But the plant will still be indentical, if that makes sense. You may dial in your nutes, get the temps under control or get rid of pests but you're not changing its DNA.
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Environment determines phenotypes in my experience and here is an amazing example of why. My friend and I bought the same clones from a dispensary from the same cut. We both grew in different environments and his was totally green and mine turned purple( I used LED's and he used HID ) my temps are a lot lower and my grow room a lot better dialed in than his, my nutrients were better administered so I got a much higher quality product that looked completely different than the clone he grew.
 
COGrown

COGrown

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Yodaweed said:
Environment determines phenotypes in my experience and here is an amazing example of why. My friend and I bought the same clones from a dispensary from the same cut. We both grew in different environments and his was totally green and mine turned purple( I used LED's and he used HID ) my temps are a lot lower and my grow room a lot better dialed in than his, my nutrients were better administered so I got a much higher quality product that looked completely different than the clone he grew.
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phenotype = genotype + other contributing factors (environment)

Reliability of wikipedia notwithstanding, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genotype-phenotype_distinction

Two plants with the same genotype (clones) can actually exhibit different phenotypes in the field.
Now, if you really want to make the distinction is kind of up to how much science you like to drag into your gardening. I like things technical, but I don't think I'm in the majority here.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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COGrown said:
phenotype = genotype + other contributing factors (environment)

Reliability of wikipedia notwithstanding, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genotype-phenotype_distinction

Two plants with the same genotype (clones) can actually exhibit different phenotypes in the field.
Now, if you really want to make the distinction is kind of up to how much science you like to drag into your gardening. I like things technical, but I don't think I'm in the majority here.
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Sorry I don't have more technical data but I'm a gardener not a scientist :)
 
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