Moist.Farms
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Na he ignored that whole part where we talked about tangible data.
HPS vs. LED Grow Lights — Which is Better for Growing Weed?
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Cannabisco
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Sorry but in my opinion you are a troll. I don't care about other people journal's. I care about the actual proof I have witnessed in person. How do I know those peoples skill sets and all the variables they posted vs didn't post. I know I have grown with all types of lights: cfls, florescent T12, T8, T5, HPS, MH, CMH, ufo lights, smd, LED & COBs and led Qb's & cobs blew every other light away.. for me anyways. Sure I've seen other people use all those lights I've stated successfully, even induction.. As for flashlight flowering, I guess you haven't taken notice that most flashlights are led or cobs, so theoretically it could be done. Anyways I was just saying that because, any light except incandescent lights can grow bud. You can say whatever your opinion is and that's great, but I'll trust the proof from my grows instead & gauge what works best for me. It's been a long road of trial & error , but my love for led & cobs are here to stay. They do the job better.I like you man, you are on point indeed
But unfortunately flashlights and low intensity lights wont grow good trichomes, its a fact, not fiction.
Dont believe me ? go to the grow journals, again, check out the 90W UFO buds, check out 600w+ panels buds, check out the 400w led buds, tell me what do you think, i agree that genetics and grower play a huge role, mainly in VEG and ways to over yield plants, the trichome production is not so user adjusted but more light and water\food adjusted before hand
Btw, cfl are stronger lights then LED, hence why you saw them laden with trichomes
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rkymtnman
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i'm leaning towards troll now.
The only one thats trolling is you, we are having a discussion about lights, if you dont have nothing to contribute then your comments are nothing but trolling, we know the fake science of LEDs, dont need to tell us again the LEDs make more par, we know this, but that PAR never has enough intensity to get to your plants, so its useless.
PJ DIAZ - you were right if those multiple light sources had any substantial power, which they dont, not at this wattage, not at this Lm output.
rkymtnman - Again, you are confusing cannabis (plant) to trichomes production and potency (reaction that dosent care about which light hit it, just the strength of it mainly)
Maybe LED do veg better cannabis, who knows ? maybe they do need less intensity when they are in VEG, i think now, as the sun is 2000 umol even when they are small and fragile.
Wish i was a troll, just im 1 person against all of you that are thirsty for knowledge and im happy to been able to step on your toes
Keeps you alive inside,
If you cant see the tangible part about giving your plants at least half of the sun power or maybe more (because with LEDs you dont give even 1%) then this thread is not for you haha
You should care, evidence is all around there haha
Yeah maybe they dont know what they are doing, maybe not, im glad you found your golden path anyway.
Moist.Farms
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Par literally equals intensity.
rkymtnman
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my 320w led puts out more lumens than a 400 w hps. 52,210 vs 50,000 using less power.
<case closed>
No it dosent, Lm defines intensity, PAR define how much of intensity is divided in the 400-700 spectrum
So Leds have lots of PAR, sure, cuz they are made to put light waves in the PAR spectrum, very very good indeed, but no power, only 2w, only 3w...
So no, intensity is not there.
So Leds have lots of PAR, sure, cuz they are made to put light waves in the PAR spectrum, very very good indeed, but no power, only 2w, only 3w...
So no, intensity is not there.
LOL, no, your 320w led puts 250 or 300Lm for each diode, you dont add them up, light dosent work like that.
when you have multiple sources of light you dont add them for a final Lm count, you count each Lm and say:
I got 300 250 Lm lights across my whole canopy, sounds more like it.
BTW this comment alone is enough to understand that you never even did the math before you started commenting, no offence, but you sound like the LED salesmen lol
rkymtnman
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no offense but i'm using the results of an actual sphere test. no math involved. well, i guess some math is involved.
52,210 is greater than 50,000.
led more lumens than hps at 80 less watts.
sorry boss. you lost this argument.
Cannabisco
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Yeah my golden pathway, took years to figure out & compile. My meter states I have more light in my tent than what the sun puts out at its peak. Under led in my tent, the meter maxes out and doesn't read any higher. I have over 1200 compiled real watts of led in my tent running avg. 75°- 77°F, never higher than 81° with my ventilation system on medium setting. But when I use HID specifically hps & the same ventilation running at max temps are 92°-97°. And my meter says I'm not getting as much light. Plus hps color spectrum is lacking compared to led.
Led just works better for me & allows me to give more usable light to my ladies, in the right spectrums. With supplemental I'm covering from 285nm - 730nm, with temps at a place that helps bud density instead of high heat that hinders density & trichomes production.
Ventilation is 2- AC Infinity Cloudline T8's.
Believe me I tried to love HPS for over 3 years, wasn't impressed.
Was impressed by CMH & LED and the results they produced. LED for the win for me, just does the job better.
Led just works better for me & allows me to give more usable light to my ladies, in the right spectrums. With supplemental I'm covering from 285nm - 730nm, with temps at a place that helps bud density instead of high heat that hinders density & trichomes production.
Ventilation is 2- AC Infinity Cloudline T8's.
Believe me I tried to love HPS for over 3 years, wasn't impressed.
Was impressed by CMH & LED and the results they produced. LED for the win for me, just does the job better.
bk78
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I leaned that way his first ever post
Cannabisco
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This post shouldn't be HPS vs LED.
It should be LEC (CMH) vs LED.
It has already been scientifically proven that LED is superior to HPS in every way.
With that being said, this is my last post on this thread. It's been entertaining .
It should be LEC (CMH) vs LED.
It has already been scientifically proven that LED is superior to HPS in every way.
With that being said, this is my last post on this thread. It's been entertaining .
Moist.Farms
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Damn, now you've scared him off for good.
Moist.Farms
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Literally the simplest google search will provide you with dozens of sources all claiming that Lumens do indeed stack.
You're either a bad troll or just really enjoy growing sub par weed.
LEDs are the new standard and its ben proven. You either get with it or get left behind smoking mids.
Im also outtie this thread. Its been entertaining.
Send me this test please if u can, and please dont send me a LED company stating they did the tests and got those results
Send me a third party company that did it.
Cannabisco - if your temps were 92-97 no wonder you didnt get good results, you were not able to manage the heat, a very importent thing i said in the beginning of my comments, HPS makes tons of heat, im not saying it wont.
BK78 - At least someone pouring information and sharing thoughts and learning curves, instead of just laughing, i understand that you dont understand nothing in this thread, still, no need to show us that so often.
Cannabisco - LED is superior to HPS on paper only, we dont have high enough wattage diodes to compare between them
and putting 300 on a panel and comparing them is also a shot in the dark and not a way to test this in a fully scientific way
I wish they had higher Lm output diodes, at even bigger voltages, because we will start to see a single diode put more Lm then a HPS, then this Compare contest will be more relevant.
Budzbuddha
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I’m gonna just say it …… who cares ?
FIFY
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Lumens Stack, Never beyond their initial count.
So if you like stackes of 300 Lm thats good for you
