How would you describe the interactions you've had with law enforcement/police?

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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I think this is a great question to ask members of this board since we have many international members outside of the US who frequently post. I'm very interested in comparing and contrasting the difference between interactions Americans have had with LE and those outside of America.

What is your general opinion of police?

What do you think when you see flashing lights in your rear view mirror?

Do you believe the color of your skin plays a part in said interaction?

Very important: What region of the world do you reside? Given the nature of this forum, not looking for anything specific, don't list your city

Do you believe there is a difference in behavior between armed and not armed officers? The way they choose to conduct themselves during a criminal confrontation?

 
srh88

srh88

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Padawanbater2 said:
I think this is a great question to ask members of this board since we have many international members outside of the US who frequently post. I'm very interested in comparing and contrasting the difference between interactions Americans have had with LE and those outside of America.

What is your general opinion of police?

What do you think when you see flashing lights in your rear view mirror?

Do you believe the color of your skin plays a part in said interaction?

Very important: What region of the world do you reside? Given the nature of this forum, not looking for anything specific, don't list your city

Do you believe there is a difference in behavior between armed and not armed officers? The way they choose to conduct themselves during a criminal confrontation?

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Do you think as a white male the police expect more from you
 
Huckster79

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US: Deceptive, driven to prove their preconceived notion reguardless of truth.... i feel many, not all as ive known personally some LE that i felt were in it for the right reasons, but many are narcissists, insecure ppl looking to be made to feel tough with a gun, n badge....

When i see the lights i run through my 4th and 5th amendment rights in my head and remind myself to not beleive a word they say as they have a licence to lie...

I have have no doubt race plays into it, im white as a sheet, and i know unfairly i felt i was treated and railroaded through a corrupt system, i cant fathom how much harder it must be for minorities.

I will ponder the armed vs unarmed as the concept is so foreign to me as an American, i have no doubt it would but i have to think about the how...

I have said since i had my eye opening experience i have vowed if im ever wealty enough to afford to, i will retire and go to law school and i will soley do criminal defense for the poor pro bona and fight for em hard till i croak....
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Huckster79 said:
US: Deceptive, driven to prove their preconceived notion reguardless of truth.... i feel many, not all as ive known personally some LE that i felt were in it for the right reasons, but many are narcissists, insecure ppl looking to be made to feel tough with a gun, n badge....

When i see the lights i run through my 4th and 5th amendment rights in my head and remind myself to not beleive a word they say as they have a licence to lie...

I have have no doubt race plays into it, im white as a sheet, and i know unfairly i felt i was treated and railroaded through a corrupt system, i cant fathom how much harder it must be for minorities.

I will ponder the armed vs unarmed as the concept is so foreign to me as an American, i have no doubt it would but i have to think about the how...

I have said since i had my eye opening experience i have vowed if im ever wealty enough to afford to, i will retire and go to law school and i will soley do criminal defense for the poor pro bona and fight for em hard till i croak....
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Great reply, Huck. I agree with you 100%

Even as a white man, police presence makes me feel uneasy. I can't even imagine the feeling of being pulled over as a minority in America. These days, you probably feel like your life might actually be on the line if you move wrong or don't comply because you didn't understand or there was some momentary miscommunication or something.. That's insane. That isn't what America stands for, that isn't what I grew up believing. Racist assholes should never be granted the power to enforce their beliefs and be backed up by the law just because they look right.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
I think this is a great question to ask members of this board since we have many international members outside of the US who frequently post. I'm very interested in comparing and contrasting the difference between interactions Americans have had with LE and those outside of America.

What is your general opinion of police?

What do you think when you see flashing lights in your rear view mirror?

Do you believe the color of your skin plays a part in said interaction?

Very important: What region of the world do you reside? Given the nature of this forum, not looking for anything specific, don't list your city

Do you believe there is a difference in behavior between armed and not armed officers? The way they choose to conduct themselves during a criminal confrontation?

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It's impossible to read your post without overlaying your previous posts where you've said you don't support equal civil rights for everybody.
 
OldMedUser

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As much as I detest some of the things cops do messing with us I got to give them credit for putting up with all the crap they do and being right on top of shit when shit gets bad.

I've been messing with cops since I was a 6 yo rock chucking, fire bug. Busting me on my Yamaha 80 at 14 to dragging my sorry ass out of the front of a store where I crashed my dad's car at 17.

Always start every encounter with respect and subservience to get the best outcome. Now is not the time to be a smart-ass which is my default attitude.

Coming home from BC to Alberta 13 years ago I got pulled over for speeding just short of the AB border. 127km in a 100 zone. Had a sawed off 12 gauge pump with special SS shot loads in a bag in the trunk and a 10-22 Ruger semi auto under stuff in the back seat of my '85 Olds Royal Brougham.

Took my papers and sat in the cop car for while then came back to make idle chit-chat. Where ya from. Nature of visit. etc.

Asked if he could take a look through my car and I told him he had no right to search me or my vehicle without a warrant. He just nodded and handed me back my papers with a warning for the excess speeding. (25km over the posted limit gets you an excessive speed ticket with 5 points instead of 3 and a $500 fine at the time).

I gave him a huge Thank you SIR! for the warning and we shook hands. Could have been a lot worse and I waited for him to turn around and leave before changing my shorts and moving on. ;)

Talk about shitting bricks! Like with women I'm totally relaxed dealing with cops tho. I got stuck taking a lie detector test when I was 19 and passed every part of it. Same kind of shit happens when serious shit goes down too like industrial/ vehicle accidents, fights etc. I just shift into observer mode and it's like I'm watching it happen to someone else and seeing all the paths each move will lead to. Done me a lot of good thru my life.

I'm the dude that can tell you when it's the right time to panic and it rarely is. My wife really likes that part as she freaks out over everything.

The older I get the less stuff I find that gets my shit hot. The serenity prayer helps on occasion.

When dealing with cops, no matter how much it grates, kissing a bit of piggy ass can save the bacon. ;)

Being a WASP is likely a bonus. I'm pretty sure my attitudes would be different were I black or brown or yellow or red.

I despise cops that profile or abuse their authority. To serve and protect is too often to beat and abuse. They come by it honestly tho. When was the last time your government served you like you elected them to do? By the people, for the people is a f'n joke. Screw the people, all the people is the rule of the day and that's what we all got to get together on and fight.

We have a common enemy called our governments! The enemy of my enemy is my friend! They mess with our heads using Faux News etc to keep us divided when we should be embracing and building a united front!

If you see colour as an issue then you're on "their" side. I'm an old white man, my two boys are status natives. My legal wife, not the boys mother, is pure Cree and this July will be our 40th wedding anniversary. I'm a happily married man. I haven't seen my wife in almost 40 years! :D

The C/L wife and I have been together since '99 and tho I'm not happy I'm content for the most part with her and her with me. I've been a boozer all my life and she's put up with it but voices her opinion once in a while. I'm a happy drunk but sometimes a drunk that says some stupid shit. I've never once touched her with anything but love so she knows she can get in my face anytime but knows to wait for a couple days after a 2 or 3 day piss-up before doing so. That way I can see beyond my misery far enough to understand what's she's saying.

Took a hard left turn there but you get the drift. circle.gif

"You can fool some of the people all of the time and you can fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time!" Teddy Roosevelt I think.

:peace:
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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Padawanbater2 said:
I think this is a great question to ask members of this board since we have many international members outside of the US who frequently post. I'm very interested in comparing and contrasting the difference between interactions Americans have had with LE and those outside of America.

What is your general opinion of police?

What do you think when you see flashing lights in your rear view mirror?

Do you believe the color of your skin plays a part in said interaction?

Very important: What region of the world do you reside? Given the nature of this forum, not looking for anything specific, don't list your city

Do you believe there is a difference in behavior between armed and not armed officers? The way they choose to conduct themselves during a criminal confrontation?
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Jim Jefferies is a f'n hoot! I got him locked and loaded to save on my PVR.

Loving the Daily Show with Trevor Noah now after watching Jon Stewart busted my guts for years.

Never watched the Late Show with anybody because I didn't like the format and the Ed McMahon personality laughing at everything like a lap dog/asskisser turned me off.

Now Colbert has the same crap going on with his band leader. Dude is constantly in the background making lame comments and laughing like it's the first time he's heard that lame joke.

Talk about the black man kissing a white man's ass. Ed McMahon kissed Johnie's ass for decades and I guess that was fine but now it looks weird to me.

He's cool as hell with the band but the ass-kissing ruins it.

:peace:
 
blu3bird

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Some bad, some good,. Probably about 50/50.

I don't really worry about law enforcement too much anymore, I don't do anything to get into trouble.

I've found that just being civil and complying with an officers orders works out pretty good.

I'm actually hoping I get pulled over in my semi for a roadside inspection by a D.O.T officer or state cop. I have a really nice well maintained truck at my job, I know I'll pass safety inspection and my company will give me $100 bonus for every passed inspection, so bring it on, cops.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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blu3bird said:
Also, one thing I have noticed about most cops in my area, is they're physically out of shape, usually overweight. Makes me wonder if having a gun gives them a false sense of security?
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No shit. Walmart tossed them off their security detail so they went to the bottom of the heap to get the power they desire.

Next step is calling themselves a private dick and stalking cheaters. :)
 
Walter9999

Walter9999

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I grew up on the eastside of Detroit in the 60' and from first hand experience I can say cops can be prejudiced and racist but the cops back then ran after and arrested people without ever pulling their revolver, like on the old tv show "cops"...today (Florida) they can be prejudiced, racist and will have their hand on their revolver when exiting the car and their next thought is to pull it...their use of profiling is the thing that pisses me off most...I haven't had interactions with them in 30 years but my feeling about them haven't changed since my youth...not a fan
 
captainmorgan

captainmorgan

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Lots of contact with police in my lifetime and most of it was personal and not criminal. They were friends of or involved with family members,two of them I spent a lot of time around. One of my brothers best friends many years ago was a state trooper, nice guy and one of the good ones and sadly he died in a car accident. My sister was involved with a small town police officer and he was a bad guy off and on the job and that SOB is still abusing people on and off the job. I would say the majority have no business having a badge and gun. For such a important job there is very little real oversight and testing of applicants. There should be a serious psychiatric evaluation of a person that is given a weapon and power over other people but this seems to have no sway in the process. Too many seek the job for the wrong reasons and like the military there are some that use the job for bad intentions. Police used to be public servants and now most seem to view the public as perps.
 
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