How too Harvest 1/2 pound with 250w+LST!

dirtysnowball

dirtysnowball

Well-Known Member
not trying to hijack but you might wanna check out my ghetto LST, i think i'll call it DS-LST
Dirtysnowball's LST
heres my baby 14 days ago!





@106 days, 100% under the sun. by the look of the leaves shes a hybrid, leaning towards the sativa side. shes gonna be my quarter-pounder.
40" wide, 36" long/tall(from dirt to main tip), branches average height from floor is17"

Its the fastest plant i've ever grown by far!!! and it came from some random weed along with an insane male(probably had the same parents). originally I thought it was a male for sure cuz it was growing at an alarming rate. lucky me i get to cross and refine these two monsters!!! ​
so the basic theory behind lst is to get the main stem lower then the rest of the branches, and to expose the lower branches to light... this makes the hormones(auxins??) go from the main top, to the lower branches instead. LST creates even growth, with many average size nugs vs one big cola. this is my ghetto cost free way. tell me what you think.
+rep
​
Click to expand...
​
 
doggyd

doggyd

Active Member
The start to a LONG journey! PART 1 LST, going for 1/2 pound! Started with 5 CFL's, I don't feel its ready for the MH. Using 4 Gallon Flower pot with Fox Farm Soil And Extra Perlite. Will be using Advanced Nutrients 3 part Grow, Micro, Bloom with Bud Candy, Big Bud, and B52. This harvest will be somewhere around January! Stay Tuned, This page will Stay updated during the grow!

Week 1 LST.JPG
 
doggyd

doggyd

Active Member
Part 2 LST, 32 days from seed (veg) GOING for 1/2 POUND under 250W MH. Sorry about the wet plant but Foiler feed her with B52 when pic was taken!

Week 2 LST.JPG
 
chronichaze

chronichaze

Well-Known Member
That plant has defiencies! Feed it nutes! Also curious why it wouldnt be ready for MH? :S Im sure it would love the MH!




doggyd said:
The start to a LONG journey! PART 1 LST, going for 1/2 pound! Started with 5 CFL's, I don't feel its ready for the MH. Using 4 Gallon Flower pot with Fox Farm Soil And Extra Perlite. Will be using Advanced Nutrients 3 part Grow, Micro, Bloom with Bud Candy, Big Bud, and B52. This harvest will be somewhere around January! Stay Tuned, This page will Stay updated during the grow!

View attachment 1782991
Click to expand...
 
chronichaze

chronichaze

Well-Known Member
If you would put that under the MH a month ago it would be double to triple the size. Vegging wth CFLs you will be vegging for 6 months to get a plant big enough to harvest a half pound.
 
doggyd

doggyd

Active Member
chronichaze said:
If you would put that under the MH a month ago it would be double to triple the size. Vegging wth CFLs you will be vegging for 6 months to get a plant big enough to harvest a half pound.
Click to expand...
Well for the first 30 days I used CFL because my 250w Hood is open with no tempered glass holding back heat, and It burned it, so I went to CFL. So I used CFL for the first 30 days Of its baby life. The plant is officially in Veg as of day 31 and will be in veg until day 90 Thats 2 months in veg under 250w MH. Then 2 months in Flower! 5 months in total from start too finish!!!!!!!!! Longer than I would like but it is ok. I always thought day 1 to day 30 was veg but its not, Its still a seedling! Why, She still had Normal Nodes and now I am starting to see 1 new internode starting, meaning no more baby! About the nutes. I know man, I just started some advanced nutes on her and she is coming along a lot better than the Pic i just posted. The next time I LST her I will take another pic and post up!
 
indipow82

indipow82

Well-Known Member
Seen another journal by Sr.Verde with a 250. Two plants of Tang Dream and he pulled at least a hp.... Sub'd!
 
doggyd

doggyd

Active Member
So the other day I started very lightly on Advanced Nutrients and she is looking so much healthier. I was really scared because I never used Advanced Nutrients and I heard if not careful, it can cause major Nute Burn. So I only added about 300ppm of nutes and she is enjoying that little bit, so I am going to up the ppm to about 600ppm the next watering and see how she does. I will actually be using the Nutrient Schedule that was recommended by Advanced Nutrients and see how that goes for me. This is actually a test with these nutes. I really liked the way Fox Farm Nutes worked, because it gave me an amazing last harvest of 151.10 grams from an AUTOFLOWER (https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog13545-final-harvest-pics-everything.html). So I am very excited to see what this White Widow will do! This will also be the first time I try and Perform a LST on a plant so please bare with me during this learning process. In a few days I will be watering her and performing her next part in the LST, then I will take new pics and post up her amazing growth. Stay tuned, subscribe to the THREAD or just follow. Be back soon! bongsmilie

I have posted this schedule on another thread but here it is:

So I send Advanced Nutrients a message and they responded extremely quick with this answer for me!

Here is a relatively simple version of the feeding chart that includes a number of our supplements and additives, while still giving you great results and yields. Let me know if there is anything else I can add or if this is sufficient.

Vegetative growth

We do not recommend applying any nutrients until your plants have developed 3-4 sets of new or true leafs if grown from clones or seedlings. Also, if growing in amended soil, do not apply any nutrients until the plants have used up all the nutrients supplied by the soil. Having said that, here is what we suggest:

Until they develop 3 or 4 sets of new (clones)/true (seedlings) leaves feed them only water. You can foliar spray them with Jumpstart, use application rate suggested on the bottle or 1/4 strength B-52 (1 mL/liter) until then. You can also add 1/4 strength applications of Piranha, Tarantula or Voodoo Juice, to the water that you will use in the root zone.

Clones seedlings need high levels of moisture in the medium
(80% -85% is good 100% is too much)

They also like a warmer environment in the root zone 70 F – 80 F.




Week 1 – 300 ppm: GMB @ 0.5ml/L of each in a 1-1-1 ratio (1.5 ml in total per liter) + Foliar spray B-52 once per week at the 2ml/L application rate.
Week 2 – 600 ppm: GMB @ 1.0ml/L of each in a 1-1-1 ratio + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 3 – 900 ppm: GMB @ 2.0ml/L of Grow, 2.0ml/L Micro and 0.4ml/L Bloom in a 10-10-1 ratio (4.4ml in total per liter) + Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L + Foliar spray B-52.
Week 4 – 1200 ppm: GMB @ 2.5ml/L of Grow, 2.5ml/L Micro and 0.5ml/L Bloom in a 10-10-1 ratio (5.5ml in total per liter) + Voodoo Juice + Foliar spray B-52.

If it is necessary to veg your plants for a longer period of time then 4 weeks, continue with the 4th week application rates. Apply voodoo juice for up to three week in a row, to properly inoculate the root zone, after which, you can discontinue the application. Also, we recommend growing your plants in veg until they are about 1/3 of their final finish height, since the plants will put on anywhere from 1/2 - 2/3 more vertical growth in the bloom stage. That is, if you want to finish your plants at 6 feet tall, veg until they are 2 foot.

Flower Production Stage

Week 1 – 1000 ppm: GMB @ 1.82 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio (5.46 ml in total per liter) + Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L
Week 2 – 1200 ppm: GMB @ 2.27 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio+ Voodoo Juice at the rate of 2ml/L + Big Bud @ 2ml/L
Week 3 – 1400 ppm: GMB @ 2.70 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + Big Bud @ 2ml/L + B52 @ 2ml/L
Week 4 - 1600 ppm: GMB @ 3.33 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + Big Bud @ 2ml/L + B52 @ 2ml/L
Week 5 – 1400 ppm: GMB @ 2.27 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + B52 @ 2ml/L + Overdrive @ 2ml
Week 6 – 1200 ppm: GMB @ 1.82 ml/L each in a 1-1-1 ratio + B52 @ 2ml/L + Overdrive @ 2ml
Week 7 – Flush!
If plant needs longer than 6 weeks of feeding (7 week strain, the 7th week is a flush week), repeat week 4 for each extra week.

Overfeeding

If the very tip of the leaves get yellow, it is an early sign of overfeeding. Reduce the solution strength slightly (100 – 150 ppm), if not increase slightly.

Deficiencies

If the margins or any other part of the leaves yellows off it is a possible sign of deficiencies. Check pH in medium and reservoir, if the pH is off from the ideal levels lock out conditions may develop. At first symptom of a deficiency apply rule # 1: “When in doubt flush them out.”
If growing in a medium that takes some time to dry up, allow the medium to dry and feeding them plain pH adjusted water when they are ready, rule #2: “Don’t apply until it’s dry.” If growing in a re circulating system, find a way to give them only pH adjusted water for the length of a light cycle, a second reservoir just for water may be a simple solution, then it is just a matter of moving the pump over, maintain the regular water pump cycle during the flush.

pH conditions in medium

In Soil/Soiless (Soil or Soiless mixtures that may also contain peat moss but not Coco Coir) adjust the pH to 6.3

In Hydro (It includes products such as Rockwool, Hydroton Rock, and Lava Rock) adjust to 5.6

In Coco Coir adjust the ph to 5.8 – 6.0. You may want to supplement with SensiCal when growing in coco with a base nutrient that in not specific to growing in coco

Root damage

Another possibility is damage in the root zone, check for the possibility of root rot, or insect larvae as potential causes for root deterioration, brown, mushy, smelly roots are a good indicator of root damage. Hydrogen peroxide is an efficient way to destroy root rot causing bacteria.

Mixing instructions

When mixing your reservoir, always mix the product that has the highest nitrogen content first (the first number on the NPK rating.) This will more often then not, be your base nutrients. Make sure you properly dissolve each product before mixing the next one into your reservoir. After adding everything into the reservoir, allow the solution to sit for at least 1-2 hours. This will allow the pH to stabilize, making it easier to adjust. Once the pH is stabilized, measure it, and adjust according to the medium you are growing in.

When using a re circulating system, you will be dealing with one of two situations, either the reservoir is large enough to feed the plants for a week without the need to be topped up during the week or it is a small reservoir and in order to feed the plants through the week it will require to be topped up.


In case of reservoir that does not need to be topped up.

Add to the reservoir the amount of water that the plants are going to be using for the week, include some extra water to allow for evaporation.
Mix the nutrient solution at 1/6th of the strength that is suggested in the calculator for that week.
Example: If the plants need 1200 ppm for the week, divide 1200 by 6 and mix the reservoir at 200 – 250 ppm.
Allow the solution to sit long enough to stabilize the pH. Adjust pH
Feed the plants.
Allow the plants to feed on the solution and the pH to rise for 1 1/2 – 2 days before re adjusting the pH.

In case of reservoir that needs to be topped up with water during the week.

Add to reservoir the amount of water that the plants will use in 3 – 3 ½ days.
Mix the nutrient solution at the strength that is suggested in the calculator for that week.
Allow the solution to sit long enough to stabilize the pH. Adjust pH
Feed the plants

Allow the plants to feed on the solution for 1 1/2 – 2 days, top up with water to the original level first before re adjusting the pH, after adding the water allow solution to sit for an hour and re adjust the pH.

If growing in soil adjust the pH 6.3, in coco 5.8 – 6.0, in hydro 5.6.

When using a re circulating system having the pH rise after you start feeding the plants is a good thing, It means that the plants are up taking nutrient, it is important that it rises the plants up take different nutrients at different pH levels, allow the pH to rise for 1 ½ - 2 days at that point adjust the pH down to 5.6 again

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hyd...alculator_old/

Measurements:

1 gallon = 4 liters (quarts)
1 tsp (teaspoon) = 5 mL
1/2 tsp (teaspoon) = 2.5 mL
1/4 tsp (teaspoon) = 1.25 mL
1 tbsp (tablespoon) = 3 tsp (teaspoon) = 15 mL
We use a 700 ppm/uS/m scale or a 0.7 scale to convert from EC to ppm.
 
indipow82

indipow82

Well-Known Member
Makes me anxious to harvest but I got some weeks left to go.. 600 watt in a 5x5 secret jardin air-cooled of course! Hoping for at least a hp!!!
 
doggyd

doggyd

Active Member
You know what I don't like about LST, Big ass FAN leaves all in the way creating so much shadow. I have begun to pull the big fan leaves off to the side to try and get more light to the main stem. I also was having a very low humidity problem which i think I finally have it under control. I am as anxious as everyone else to see the final results.....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top