How to lace weed with opium

plantvision

plantvision

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Good God, do you have to be so rude. The dude was just asking a question. I don't know his experience level or do I care. I am sure that sometime in your lives you didn't have an answer for something. Just answer the question and try to be helpful or keep your comments to yourself.
As for his question, I think, not sure, but alcohol used as a solvent and then dipped will work. There is a couple good books on opium at Amazon, but it has been awhile since I read them. Also opium yes is addictive, but not as bad as it refined qualities. Another interesting thing about opium is that before you OD on it you will get sick. I not saying that if you just stick your face and start chowing it you can't OD. But smoking it you will get sick before OD. Now this is just book reference, not my personal experience. Hope it helps, and wish I had your problem of too much opium. Good Luck
 
canndo

canndo

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valjean said:
you think this is bad? there is a twelve pager after a dude asked how to grow a meth tree. i offered to sell him meth seeds.
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Where might I go to buy some of those meth seeds. I thought you could only get clones.
 
DRGreyMind

DRGreyMind

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most things that arnt soluable in water will be soluable in an organic solvent like alchohol or ethanol (most of the -ols) best way to then seperate the compounds is distillation via different boiling points, causing the organic solvent to evapourate and leaving your desired product, this can be a very tricky process for people who do not have basic knowledge of organic chemistry as most organic solvents are extremely flammable and therefore must be kept at an even temperature and prevented from boiling (anti-bumping granulles will do the trick) you will also need some sort of cooling system near the reactants you wish to keep so that if they do evap they will condense and reform. Once in liquid form you can either 'paint' the desired product straight onto the bud (this is best suited to the lazy people out there) or a much safer option is to calculate the consentration of your product and then spray it on, you can calculate the concentration of your product by finding out how many 'moles' you have of it (this can be done by calculating the relative atomic mass of your product for this you need to find the molecular formula of your product, for instance NaCl is the molecular formula for sodium chloride or table salt, once you have the molecular formula simply get hold of a periodic table and add up the bottom numbers of each element in your compund, for instance NaCl has a relative atomic mass of 22 + 35 = 57) once you have the relative atomic mass of your product weigh your product and record the weight in grams, once this is done divide your weight in grams by your relative atomic mass number and you will have your moles , once you have this number calculate the volume of the container your substance is in and divide your moles by this volume (if you calculated your volume in cm3 divide by 1000 to get dm [decimetre]) this will give you your concentration, the higher the concentration the higher the potency, also higher concentration means higher vapourization point, so if you soak your bud in a product with super high concentration it will be extremely hard to light.


This all being said i think its a horrible thing to mix weed with heroin as you are basically drugging your customers without there knowledge, i couldnt handle the thought of causing an addiction so powerful that an individual would do almost anything to fill that hunger...
 
Unikorn

Unikorn

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No it's not a myth. I was stationed in thailand during the 70's. It was called Budda Thai Stick. It was tied around a piece of bambo stick and laced with opium. You smoke a pin head between 4 people and won't need any more the rest of the night. for rookies anyway! The vets smoked all night lol
 
DRGreyMind

DRGreyMind

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DRGreyMind said:
most things that arnt soluable in water will be soluable in an organic solvent like alchohol or ethanol (most of the -ols) best way to then seperate the compounds is distillation via different boiling points, causing the organic solvent to evapourate and leaving your desired product, this can be a very tricky process for people who do not have basic knowledge of organic chemistry as most organic solvents are extremely flammable and therefore must be kept at an even temperature and prevented from boiling (anti-bumping granulles will do the trick) you will also need some sort of cooling system near the reactants you wish to keep so that if they do evap they will condense and reform. Once in liquid form you can either 'paint' the desired product straight onto the bud (this is best suited to the lazy people out there) or a much safer option is to calculate the consentration of your product and then spray it on, you can calculate the concentration of your product by finding out how many 'moles' you have of it (this can be done by calculating the relative atomic mass of your product for this you need to find the molecular formula of your product, for instance NaCl is the molecular formula for sodium chloride or table salt, once you have the molecular formula simply get hold of a periodic table and add up the bottom numbers of each element in your compund, for instance NaCl has a relative atomic mass of 22 + 35 = 57) once you have the relative atomic mass of your product weigh your product and record the weight in grams, once this is done divide your weight in grams by your relative atomic mass number and you will have your moles , once you have this number calculate the volume of the container your substance is in and divide your moles by this volume (if you calculated your volume in cm3 divide by 1000 to get dm [decimetre]) this will give you your concentration, the higher the concentration the higher the potency, also higher concentration means higher vapourization point, so if you soak your bud in a product with super high concentration it will be extremely hard to light.


This all being said i think its a horrible thing to mix weed with heroin as you are basically drugging your customers without there knowledge, i couldnt handle the thought of causing an addiction so powerful that an individual would do almost anything to fill that hunger...
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Just realized that the aldehyde group (-al as in ethanal) would work much better than using an alchohol, both are organic solvents its just the aldehyde family works 'faster' as its basically an oxigenated alchohol.
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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supersillybilly said:
Google thai stick and look at wiki
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Never trust wiki, it is adjusted by every day people who can inadvertently corrupt the real truth. A Thai stick is only called that because it is rolled in banana leaves. Way back I used to get them brought into SA and never had opium in them but thats not to say it wouldnt happen.

I have no idea how you could incorporate the two though!
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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newworldicon said:
Never trust wiki, it is adjusted by every day people who can inadvertently corrupt the real truth. A Thai stick is only called that because it is rolled in banana leaves. Way back I used to get them brought into SA and never had opium in them but thats not to say it wouldnt happen.

I have no idea how you could incorporate the two though!
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I don't know why you'd want to, especially back then. Opium, even a small amount to lace, is more expensive than just some weed. Opium was especially expensive, relative to the time, back then.
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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The Cryptkeeper said:
I don't know why you'd want to, especially back then. Opium, even a small amount to lace, is more expensive than just some weed. Opium was especially expensive, relative to the time, back then.
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You obviously have the wrong end of the stick, I never wanted to put opium into weed, read the whole thread please!!!!!
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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Who's benchmark of over sensitivity are we reffering to here? I now see that it was a figure of speech but in my defense you did not quite write that very clearly, are you stoned?

Another thing, what time frame do you refer to with opium prices and what do you know of opium prices in South Africa in the early 90's?
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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I'm talking about pre-80's heroin storm. However, I do know of opium prices in China where it's traditionally from. The golden triangle after the Opium Convention. As well as Afghanistan after the 80's heroin storm, namely, EARLY 90s. :) Never in my life heard of it coming from South Africa. What do you want to know?
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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The Cryptkeeper said:
I'm talking about pre-80's heroin storm. However, I do know of opium prices in China where it's traditionally from. The golden triangle after the Opium Convention. As well as Afghanistan after the 80's heroin storm, namely, EARLY 90s. :) Never in my life heard of it coming from South Africa. What do you want to know?
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Lets leave this here because there is nothing you could tell me about the drugs trade in South Africa that I did not experience myself first hand, unlike you.

Also if you had read what I had said you would realise I was talking about opium and Thai sticks being brought into the country not it being made there!

PS. The golden triangle you refer to encapsulates Burma, Laos and Thailand not really china but frankly I do not want to have this conversation with you.

Good day to you Skeletor
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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newworldicon said:
Lets leave this here because there is nothing you could tell me about the drugs trade in South Africa that I did not experience myself first hand, unlike you.

Also if you had read what I had said you would realise I was talking about opium and Thai sticks being brought into the country not it being made there!

PS. The golden triangle you refer to encapsulates Burma, Laos and Thailand not really china but frankly I do not want to have this conversation with you.

Good day to you Skeletor
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There's nothing you can tell me about the drugs production I don't know. Fair enough. I'm sure those poor impoverished drug traders in South Africa have the fingers in the opium honeypot. However, I know full well the Golden Triangle doesn't include China. I also never said it was. If you knew anything about me you'd know putting words in my mouth ends terribly for the one to do so. I think ending this conversation would be incredibly wise. Although I'm ready to continue it if you wish. :)
 
newworldicon

newworldicon

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The Cryptkeeper said:
There's nothing you can tell me about the drugs production I don't know. Fair enough. I'm sure those poor impoverished drug traders in South Africa have the fingers in the opium honeypot. However, I know full well the Golden Triangle doesn't include China. I also never said it was. If you knew anything about me you'd know putting words in my mouth ends terribly for the one to do so. I think ending this conversation would be incredibly wise. Although I'm ready to continue it if you wish. :)
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1. I said drug trade not production, yet I am the one putting words in your mouth?
2. I never said that opium was made in SA, if you re read the posts you will see that there is no mention of it.
3. You demonstrate ignorance about South African drug traders, taking into consideration that they do not produce opiates at all they are still the world's 3rd largest exporter of Cannabis after America and Mexico. You will be very surprised at the quality of hard drugs in the country too, it's not as cut as many western parts of the world but you would never know that.
4. Ending this conversation is wise, you are not even on the same track as me here, you are making a fool of yourself by assuming, misreading posts and generally trying to vomit back up a bunch of stuff you read in a book, congratulations.
5. If you had not quoted me when you made your original point we would not be here right now but perhaps that has not crossed your mind just yet because you are too busy getting your back up trying to prove you know something you read from a book.

Now I'm finished!
 
The Cryptkeeper

The Cryptkeeper

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newworldicon said:
Who's benchmark of over sensitivity are we reffering to here? I now see that it was a figure of speech but in my defense you did not quite write that very clearly, are you stoned?

Another thing, what time frame do you refer to with opium prices and what do you know of opium prices in South Africa in the early 90's?
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No where in this quote is a mention of drug trade. It is only after my post that you bring up 'drug trade'. Play the semantics game all you want. :) It's very entertaining. :)
 
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