How to get the biggest yields ever

Everyone needs to know about this guy, Harley Smith.
A couple months ago, i started getting tired of the same old over and over again on all these websites about marijuana growing. I would look up advanced marijuana cultivation just to try and learn more. I felt like I got a rut, untill I found this series of lectures. I had never heard about Harley Smith before finding these videos mostly from NPK university but he has so much great info on really important things you may not realize as a grower about maximizing yeilds, essential micro and macro nutrients, amino acids, microbiology in your soil and just being the best grower possible. Videos are long, and a bit repetitive but full of great stuff I had no idea about, but now I feel like a much more confident grower. Hope this helps others as much as it helped me
He has many more videos but these were the most benificial for me

For " normal growers " whether indoor / outdoor , these " lectures " are far deep into the SCIENCE of the Plant and its functions more than application . It IS FAR BETTER for the prospective grower to learn by " field experience " meaning actual gardening than by cramming very technical knowledge. EXPERIENCE will trump classes and book reading.

It's a plant .... If you can grow a tomato plant , you can reasonably grow weed.
Lighting , environmental conditions , nutrition , air exchange , grow medium are pretty much the basics NEEDED. Forget the nerdy shit , follow the grows on this forum for information.
You are basing " grow info " on youtube videos for crying out loud.
You will stumble .
You will fail .
And you will WIN.

No grower can deny that they learned very valuable info from the mistakes done on grows. Everybody's methods are different. Its doing your homework into researching THE ACTUAL STYLE of grow that will best be close to what you are looking for.

Like HID ? Follow some journals
Like LED ? Look at actual grows and study that.

Overthinking " gardening " is where shit goes wrong

Budzbuddha said:

For " normal growers " whether indoor / outdoor , these " lectures " are far deep into the SCIENCE of the Plant and its functions more than application . It IS FAR BETTER for the prospective grower to learn by " field experience " meaning actual gardening than by cramming very technical knowledge. EXPERIENCE will trump classes and book reading.

It's a plant .... If you can grow a tomato plant , you can reasonably grow weed.
Lighting , environmental conditions , nutrition , air exchange , grow medium are pretty much the basics NEEDED. Forget the nerdy shit , follow the grows on this forum for information.
You are basing " grow info " on youtube videos for crying out loud.
You will stumble .
You will fail .
And you will WIN.

No grower can deny that they learned very valuable info from the mistakes done on grows. Everybody's methods are different. Its doing your homework into researching THE ACTUAL STYLE of grow that will best be close to what you are looking for.

Like HID ? Follow some journals
Like LED ? Look at actual grows and study that.

Overthinking " gardening " is where shit goes wrong

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This isnt overthinking hahaaha its learning more about WHY a plant needs somthing so you can see the whole picture and WHY diffrent texniques work better than others. The whole point of this is to learn the scientific side of it. I have been growing for 6 or 7 years and have done ALOT of research on these forums about hid, led, training techniques, fertilizers alot of other things. But regardless of how much field experience you have, it won't match the scientific experiments this guy has conducted himself.
These videos are obviously not for beginners, but for people who want to take there growing to the next level.

All I'm saying is that of course anybody who can grow a tomato plant can grow a marijuana plant, but if you want to go from an average grower, making some good medicine, to a great grower who is maximizing the genetic potential of his plants to produce the best yields and highest quality buds, then your going to have to learn more than what types of lights are out there.


Seems to me this "scientific" stuff is just too complicated for you to understand hahah

People can say whatever the hell they want on these threads, and that's what causes so much misinformation out there, this guy is an actual professor, who has studied plant biology his whole life, going to different countries to talk with other scientists about his experiments and theirs.
I don't care what you say, no matter how many forums you read from some half ass grower who thinks he knows whats going on, it cant compare to what this guy can teach you.

Budzbuddha said:

For " normal growers " whether indoor / outdoor , these " lectures " are far deep into the SCIENCE of the Plant and its functions more than application . It IS FAR BETTER for the prospective grower to learn by " field experience " meaning actual gardening than by cramming very technical knowledge. EXPERIENCE will trump classes and book reading.

It's a plant .... If you can grow a tomato plant , you can reasonably grow weed.
Lighting , environmental conditions , nutrition , air exchange , grow medium are pretty much the basics NEEDED. Forget the nerdy shit , follow the grows on this forum for information.
You are basing " grow info " on youtube videos for crying out loud.
You will stumble .
You will fail .
And you will WIN.

No grower can deny that they learned very valuable info from the mistakes done on grows. Everybody's methods are different. Its doing your homework into researching THE ACTUAL STYLE of grow that will best be close to what you are looking for.

Like HID ? Follow some journals
Like LED ? Look at actual grows and study that.

Overthinking " gardening " is where shit goes wrong

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PREACH!

Bbcchance said:

PREACH!

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Alright thats fine, you guys go ahead and keep doing what your doing.
Knowledge is power, and you should never stop trying to find more of it. Regardless how "scientific" or "nerdy" it is.
You don't know what you can learn from this guy untill you watch the videos, after you've watched all the videos, go ahead and come back here THEN tell me it was a waste of time.

I know you won't, because after you actually give the videos a shot, you will realize how great this guy is, he puts everything so simply, and is a great teacher

I'm just trying to help out and help people become better, top shelf, growers. If you don't want that, and just want to only learn whats "NEEDED" go ahead and get off the thread hahahah

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ said:

Alright thats fine, you guys go ahead and keep doing what your doing.
Knowledge is power, and you should never stop trying to find more of it. Regardless how "scientific" or "nerdy" it is.
You don't know what you can learn from this guy untill you watch the videos, after you've watched all the videos, go ahead and come back here THEN tell me it was a waste of time.

I know you won't, because after you actually give the videos a shot, you will realize how great this guy is, he puts everything so simply, and is a great teacher

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The videos are good info, but even if you memorize every aspect if his teachings you are still gonna have issues pop up in your garden while practicing the teachings, never stop learning or reading or watching, but practical application is where the real education begins was my point

Bbcchance said:

The videos are good info, but even if you memorize every aspect if his teachings you are still gonna have issues pop up in your garden while practicing the teachings, never stop learning or reading or watching, but practical application is where the real education begins was my point

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If you memorize everything this guy teaches, you will know exactly how to fix each of those problems
He doesn't teach any crazy new radical ideas, he teaches you how to understand what you're already doing to your plants, and how to improve on whatever your already doing to maximize your genetic potential, get the highest quality, and highest yeild possible

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ said:

This isnt overthinking hahaaha its learning more about WHY a plant needs somthing so you can see the whole picture and WHY diffrent texniques work better than others. The whole point of this is to learn the scientific side of it. I have been growing for 6 or 7 years and have done ALOT of research on these forums about hid, led, training techniques, fertilizers alot of other things. But regardless of how much field experience you have, it won't match the scientific experiments this guy has conducted himself.
These videos are obviously not for beginners, but for people who want to take there growing to the next level.

All I'm saying is that of course anybody who can grow a tomato plant can grow a marijuana plant, but if you want to go from an average grower, making some good medicine, to a great grower who is maximizing the genetic potential of his plants to produce the best yields and highest quality buds, then your going to have to learn more than what types of lights are out there.


Seems to me this "scientific" stuff is just too complicated for you to understand hahah

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Tell ya what. I learned all that "science" in college! You get a far better understanding, and especially how to apply that knowledge there. These "video classes" are nice but, not anywhere near as effective as an actual class on the subject - He leaves out more then you learn.

Even after "school" educations. You learn far more about the plant. When you grow it yourself. Time simply makes you better as you learn the plant and it's needs. There is no better "teacher" of refined growing then experience!

Go to school and take some Hort/Biology classes.....At least learn how to read papers on these subjects, and how to understand them. Search google scholar for papers on every aspect of growing.....Learn more there, not to mention reading actual textbooks!

You got any idea how much of this actual science goes in one ear and out the other..... Learning how to apply the knowledge is just, if not more important....

I wouldn't grow cannabis like a tomato plant any day!
Treat it like a blooming "Tropical" and do better, FAR better..

I like to say that if you get an African Violet and then get it to bloom properly......You can grow cannabis with out 98% of the common mistakes of new growers!

If you want to learn basic/advanced hort. Go to college and take the classes. You got a local community college? Nice place to take exactly the classes you want for a fair cost. No need to "graduate". Just take what you want, to learn what you want!

Dr. Who said:

Tell ya what. I learned all that "science" in college! You get a far better understanding, and especially how to apply that knowledge there. These "video classes" are nice but, not anywhere near as effective as an actual class on the subject - He leaves out more then you learn.

Even after "school" educations. You learn far more about the plant. When you grow it yourself. Time simply makes you better as you learn the plant and it's needs. There is no better "teacher" of refined growing then experience!

Go to school and take some Hort/Biology classes.....At least learn how to read papers on these subjects, and how to understand them. Search google scholar for papers on every aspect of growing.....Learn more there, not to mention reading actual textbooks!

You got any idea how much of this actual science goes in one ear and out the other..... Learning how to apply the knowledge is just, if not more important....

I wouldn't grow cannabis like a tomato plant any day!
Treat it like a blooming "Tropical" and do better, FAR better..

I like to say that if you get an African Violet and then get it to bloom properly......You can grow cannabis with out 98% of the common mistakes of new growers!

If you want to learn basic/advanced hort. Go to college and take the classes. You got a local community college? Nice place to take exactly the classes you want for a fair cost. No need to "graduate". Just take what you want, to learn what you want!

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Great advise, I deffenitly would sign up for some horticulture classes if i could! I just don't have the time, or money.
To me this seems like the second best thing! I have a good fundamental understanding of plant biology so that helps out alot when watching this videos, but I admit some of it goes over my head. But that doesn't stop me from sucking up as much as I can!

Dr. Who said:

Tell ya what. I learned all that "science" in college! You get a far better understanding, and especially how to apply that knowledge there. These "video classes" are nice but, not anywhere near as effective as an actual class on the subject - He leaves out more then you learn.

Even after "school" educations. You learn far more about the plant. When you grow it yourself. Time simply makes you better as you learn the plant and it's needs. There is no better "teacher" of refined growing then experience!

Go to school and take some Hort/Biology classes.....At least learn how to read papers on these subjects, and how to understand them. Search google scholar for papers on every aspect of growing.....Learn more there, not to mention reading actual textbooks!

You got any idea how much of this actual science goes in one ear and out the other..... Learning how to apply the knowledge is just, if not more important....

I wouldn't grow cannabis like a tomato plant any day!
Treat it like a blooming "Tropical" and do better, FAR better..

I like to say that if you get an African Violet and then get it to bloom properly......You can grow cannabis with out 98% of the common mistakes of new growers!

If you want to learn basic/advanced hort. Go to college and take the classes. You got a local community college? Nice place to take exactly the classes you want for a fair cost. No need to "graduate". Just take what you want, to learn what you want!

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African vilots are no joke to keep around!

Dr. Who said:

Tell ya what. I learned all that "science" in college! You get a far better understanding, and especially how to apply that knowledge there. These "video classes" are nice but, not anywhere near as effective as an actual class on the subject - He leaves out more then you learn.

Even after "school" educations. You learn far more about the plant. When you grow it yourself. Time simply makes you better as you learn the plant and it's needs. There is no better "teacher" of refined growing then experience!

Go to school and take some Hort/Biology classes.....At least learn how to read papers on these subjects, and how to understand them. Search google scholar for papers on every aspect of growing.....Learn more there, not to mention reading actual textbooks!

You got any idea how much of this actual science goes in one ear and out the other..... Learning how to apply the knowledge is just, if not more important....

I wouldn't grow cannabis like a tomato plant any day!
Treat it like a blooming "Tropical" and do better, FAR better..

I like to say that if you get an African Violet and then get it to bloom properly......You can grow cannabis with out 98% of the common mistakes of new growers!

If you want to learn basic/advanced hort. Go to college and take the classes. You got a local community college? Nice place to take exactly the classes you want for a fair cost. No need to "graduate". Just take what you want, to learn what you want!

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There just comes a time on these threads, or just growing, where you hit a limit. I couldnt understand what the NPK ratio really ment, or how everything works together, what micro or macro nutrients were, what mobile nutrients are, and how that affects how you see different deficiencys in a plant. There is a certain point where you can observe only so much, but you can't understand why your observing it. This helped me over so many hurdles in my growing process, it teached me so much about how I fertilize, when I fertilize, and how much I fertilize.
I started using amino acids mixed with kelp extract as an addition to my regular feeding regimen and as a foliar feeding and it improved things GREATLY.
I also learned about WHY molasses works, it doesn't actually supply sugars to the plant, but feeds the micro bacteria in the soil, helping stimulate them to the very end to give the plant more nutrients because at the end of flowering a plant actually stops naturally feeding the micro bacteria because instead of releasing sugars into the soil, it's soaking it all up for the buds, that's why it's important to feed them yourself.
Even simple things he taught me that I didn't really realize like that it's far better to let your plants become a little deficient than burning them, it's much easier, and better for final yields to correct a deficiency than to try and fix a nutrient burn.

That's just the beginning of what this guy has taught me. There is so much more information in this can be applied to your everyday growing techniques

Understanding what is being taught.....Is what college is for......Video's can't do that.....who do you ask questions from? What if a mistake was made? etc. etc.

Bbcchance said:

African vilots are no joke to keep around!

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And that's the thing! It's why I say to grow those first!
All the same aspects as cannabis but, more tight on how as far as plant needs!

Soil - pH - feeding - RH and temps.... Running this plant teach's you not just about each but, makes you learn to understand how to effectively use them in relationship to the plant. Each is critical to blooming success with this plant vs. Cannabis.

If you do this. You will find that cannabis is "now" easy, AND you'll know about how to make all those adjustments to find the "optimal" conditions for hitting plant potentials......much easier then with any "tomato"...

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ said:

I started using amino acids mixed with kelp extract as an addition to my regular feeding regimen and as a foliar feeding and it improved things GREATLY.

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Kelp contains the amino's! Why add more? FACT. What amino's do the plant actually take up and what one's not? What about feeding the building blocks or "precursor" compounds so the plant makes it's own, for the one's that don't feed. Amino's effect genetic expression. What else can do that?

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ said:

I also learned about WHY molasses works, it doesn't actually supply sugars to the plant, but feeds the micro bacteria in the soil, helping stimulate them to the very end to give the plant more nutrients because at the end of flowering a plant actually stops naturally feeding the micro bacteria because instead of releasing sugars into the soil, it's soaking it all up for the buds, that's why it's important to feed them yourself.

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BUT, molasses is not the best choice for that.....It brings things to the table that I don't want at this point! Not to mention that most of the better nutrient lines, supply extra carbs in bloom - just for that reason......Then you have AN that separates them into other bottles for you to pay extra for! Then the REAL kicker is that it'll do little to nothing for synthetic nutrient feed plants! The synthetic nutrient is plant ready and doesn't rely on microbes to break it down for plant use!

In organics it's still better to add in fresh active microbes in the form of AACT tea in late bloom then add any carb straight to soil!

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ said:

Even simple things he taught me that I didn't really realize like that it's far better to let your plants become a little deficient than burning them, it's much easier, and better for final yields to correct a deficiency than to try and fix a nutrient burn.

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Learning this is nice but, a def is still going to take away from potentials. Even if they are "repaired".

These points are why I say the video's are "nice" but actual class.....kick's it's butt! Community colleges are affordable! Whats it matter to take a cpl of hrs a week out of your time? It's an investment in yourself! Watch less TV or find an hr here and there to replace with that investment!

Simply buying used textbooks can do better. In the long run! Sub sections and cross references, etc, etc. It's resource.

I've seen most of them already and I'm in my first grow. Which is going great. I did online research, read people posts, watched videos etc. before even starting...
His videos aren't EVEN nerdy stuff. It's barely complicated. If you're actually interested in the plant and how everything works it's extremely easy to follow and learn.
I get that experience is how you learn but I learned a boat load from his videos and used what he said to do deeper into questions that I had. The internet is a wonderful teacher. I can cross reference multiple sources and form my own opinion on what to do... plus I think he'd be a cool ass dude to hang out with haha
I learned from my mistakes before making them because I took the time and made the effort. The ops title does say "biggest yields." If you want to pop a seed in the ground and then post "what do I do now" or make tons of mistakes, or read but still not get the yield you want that's fine. But every little bit of info helps...
I know I'm new and I haven't seen multiple strains and had multiple problems so I LACK experience. But everything I've read so far will for sure help me immediately diagnose problems, if not stop them before they start

When the student is ready the teacher will appear

Dr. Who said:

Kelp contains the amino's! Why add more? FACT. What amino's do the plant actually take up and what one's not? What about feeding the building blocks or "precursor" compounds so the plant makes it's own, for the one's that don't feed. Amino's effect genetic expression. What else can do that?



BUT, molasses is not the best choice for that.....It brings things to the table that I don't want at this point! Not to mention that most of the better nutrient lines, supply extra carbs in bloom - just for that reason......Then you have AN that separates them into other bottles for you to pay extra for!



Learning this is nice but, a def is still going to take away from potentials. Even if they are "repaired".

These points are why I say the video's are "nice" but actual class.....kick's it's butt! Community colleges are affordable! Whats it matter to take a cpl of hrs a week out of your time? It's an investment in your self! Watch less TV or find an hr here and there to replace with that investment!

Simply buying used textbooks can do better. In the long run! Sub sections and cross references, etc, etc. It's resource.

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Hey I appreciate you actually stopping by and having a conversation about this, not just shutting it down. You have some great points, and no source of indoor is perfect!
I just wanted to post this as another resource.
By the way, I I'm using foxfarm ferts, and they don't supply everything you need for sure, so it's important to know what your missing. Most people flush the last couple weeks of flower, and then your not getting those sugars some bloom fertilizers contain, that's why it's important to still supply some kind of carb for the micro heard and keep them alive and functioning.

I actually started adding this fert called cytoplus, by bioag, it has worked great for my plants, increasing nutrient uptake, and encouraging secondary branch growth.
It contains kelp extract to assist in natural amino acids, and micro nutrients, but they also combine that with humic and folic acids derived from oyster shells. It's actually a really great product

GreenBean 420 said:

I've seen most of them already and I'm in my first grow. Which is going great. I did online research, read people posts, watched videos etc. before even starting...
His videos aren't EVEN nerdy stuff. It's barely complicated. If you're actually interested in the plant and how everything works it's extremely easy to follow and learn.
I get that experience is how you learn but I learned a boat load from his videos and used what he said to do deeper into questions that I had. The internet is a wonderful teacher. I can cross reference multiple sources and form my own opinion on what to do... plus I think he'd be a cool ass dude to hang out with haha
I learned from my mistakes before making them because I took the time and made the effort. The ops title does say "biggest yields." If you want to pop a seed in the ground and then post "what do I do now" or make tons of mistakes, or read but still not get the yield you want that's fine. But every little bit of info helps...
I know I'm new and I haven't seen multiple strains and had multiple problems so I LACK experience. But everything I've read so far will for sure help me immediately diagnose problems, if not stop them before they start

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Thanks for actually backing me up! Seems like everyone wants to knock it before they try it hahah he really is a great teacher, and does seem like a cool dude!! The awesome Mutton chops are just a benifit! Hahaha

Well I will watch them. Because although it may not be the ideal way to learn, if it teaches me one thing I didn't know then what harm has it done.
Many folks are not geared toward class rooms or text books, for some a youtube vid they can watch over and over and skip back and forth is easier to digest than other forms of media.
Personally speaking I love to learn, love to read and enjoyed my education but I know many many people who grow and are at the other end of the spectrum as far as their ability to take in info from text or even their ability to attend classes either through physical aliment or lack of social skills.
Its another form of media that can be useful to people, where's the harm in that.