how to get perfect soil? Need help Please. Everything is ready except soil and weather.

kkhhaadd

Member
Hey guys, my clones are growing and now i need to prepare for the soil. Most of those stuffs are on the delivery, but i still have some confusion and problems.

I have searched a lot for organic soil recipe, like the followings:

Soil A.

Composted Super Soil Ingredients

6 bags x 10-gallon (35 pounds or 1.5 cu. ft.) Roots Organic Soil
2 bags x 50L (35 lbs) Biobizz Light-Mix soil
2 bags x 30 lbs Organic Earthworm Castings
1 box 6 lbs Fish Bone Meal (3-16-0) Note: 3-15-0 or 3-18-0 can also be used
1 cup Dolomite Lime (“prilled” if possible)
½ cup Azomite (0-0-0.2)
1 box 5 lbs Blood Meal (12-0-0)
1 bag 4 lbs Happy Frog Bat Guano (0-5-0)
¾ cup Epsom Salt
(Optional) Up to 25% Perlite (for extra drainage)



Soil B:

8- Large bags of High quality Organic potting soil with a coco and Mycorrhizae

1- 25-50 pounds of Organic Worm castings
5 lb. Steamed Bone meal
5 lb. Bloom bat Guano
5 lb. Blood meal
3 lb. Rock Phoshate
¾ cup Epson salts
½ to 1 Cup cup Sweet Lime ( Dolimite)
½ Cup Azomite ( Trace Elements)

2- TBS Powdered Humic Acid

Question 1: I really can't get those soil which i highlighted with red color in the above, it's unavailable for me, so i have to make the basic soil by myself. I bought some coco coir , perlite and vermiculite, i also bought some peat moss. How about the ratio? My usual method was mix them 1:1:1. I need to mix them to be used as basic soil and then add the other stuffs.

Question 2: What's the difference between fish bone meal and bone meal? I find that some of these stuffs are made from fish bones and others are made from cattle bones, what's the difference between them? Will it bring different NPK ratio?

Question 3: What's the difference between natural bat guano and the processed Bloom Bat Guano, it's also unavailable to get the processed one because the time, i can't wait. Can I use natural bat guano to replace those products?

Question 4: If outdoors, what's the proper container volume for plants? Oh, man, don't tell me the bigger the better, certainly i know that, that's right, but we need to control the cost. I bought some plastic bags, they are about 200 gallons.

Question 5: I'm going to dig some holes and put the bags in the ground. I have noticed that a lot of outdoor marijuana gardens they just put the big smart pot on the ground. Which one is better? I'm afraid of attracting unnecessary attention from people when the containers are on the ground and easy to find.

Okay, it's raining cats and dogs so I have to stay indoors and post this thread.
Thanks a lot for everyone's advice and wise.
 

kkhhaadd

Member
Well, a lot of horticultural companies have added additional fertilizer into the soil and their products, is here anybody know about it?
For example, the jiffy peat pellets, when you use this for germination or cloning, it's much faster than the coco coir or pure peat moss.
They declared they added some fertilizer to make it better, does anyone know that?
 

Colorado Old Guy

Active Member
The jiffy pellets have just enough to sprout the seed and grow it until roots show at the bottom and sides.......it's time to pot up then....miracle grow potting soil is a complete mix, with enough nutrients to get you by for a month or so then it's time to either pot up again or go out into the ground.....
 

Colorado Old Guy

Active Member
I don't know about all that other stuff, sounds like you don't or can't use Mother Earth to plant in.....unless you have toxic soil, you can amend it with some leaf mould, compost or potting soil....scatter a couple of handfuls of 12/12/12 around a three foot circle, dig it in good with the other amendments, water well, let it sit as long as possible and plant. Forget about the exotic stuff, remember you are growing weeds, it's not rocket science. Don't look for an exact formula with the soil, just look at it, feel it with your fingers....does it feel granular? Does it have a loose texture?
Wet it and rub between your fingers....does it feel sandy or is it slick....read up on soil testing and soil amendments....if necessary, take a soil sample and seek a professional test to determine what you need...Google for soil testing.....good luck
 

kkhhaadd

Member
I don't know about all that other stuff, sounds like you don't or can't use Mother Earth to plant in.....unless you have toxic soil, you can amend it with some leaf mould, compost or potting soil....scatter a couple of handfuls of 12/12/12 around a three foot circle, dig it in good with the other amendments, water well, let it sit as long as possible and plant. Forget about the exotic stuff, remember you are growing weeds, it's not rocket science. Don't look for an exact formula with the soil, just look at it, feel it with your fingers....does it feel granular? Does it have a loose texture?
Wet it and rub between your fingers....does it feel sandy or is it slick....read up on soil testing and soil amendments....if necessary, take a soil sample and seek a professional test to determine what you need...Google for soil testing.....good luck
I'll show you some pics later, i'm going to find some spots for planting.
 
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