How to delineate growing experience from the typicall 2 yr "master"

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
I did the variety wheels I wont do them again from now on I will go after specific strains. A couple did not pop and I am disappointed in GHS in some ways.
If you haven't already popped them, don't waste your time. That is my opinion. The SSH and SLH are fantastic but there is much better out there. I you like those specific strains, try MR. nice seed company. He Was the master grower for GHS and when Arjan ficked him over he left with his strains and created a new company. Just my opinion. In all reality, if you find some good growers in the valley, you shouldn't have any problems obtaining the strains you desire.
 

BeaverHuntr

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I did the variety wheels I wont do them again from now on I will go after specific strains. A couple did not pop and I am disappointed in GHS in some ways.
If you have been in the MMJ scene long enough you wouldnt have bothered with Barneys farm or Green House, outside of the super lemon haze those companies are notorious for selling crap genetics.
 

Lucius Vorenus

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I know a friend who probably has 100 harvests under his belt. Unfortunately he has never grown in anything bigger then a closet. Just because of his experience doesn't mean he will have the ability to run and fully sustain a commercial type grow. The reason behind breeding is almost every business plan has a goal. If their goal is to be the best and ultimately run 'everything' then genetics and breeders are going to play a HUGE role. People get tired of the same old genetics and are always wanting something a little 'better'. In order to keep the same medicinal values and to create something better, you are going to have to have the knowledge to breed. That being said, the dispensaries that are still around and operating legally all have at least developed one of their own strains or have growers hired under that disoensary doing the breeding for them. But my point is, at some time you are going to have to have something to set you aside from the others and honestly IMO genetics are the most important.

Sorry just on my phone writing this :) I can elaborate more if you have questions lol
From watching California and being a part of it in Colorado I can honestly tell you all of that goes out the window once Dispensaries are going.

What Dispensary owners wants: Quality, consistently, reasonably priced.

What growers think they want: The holy grail of herb that has been played Motzart since it was a seed and massaged daily creating the finest herb known to man.

Lots of good quality herb that will sell. Thats it folks.

Also anyone who doesn't think people in Az aren't trafficking still from Cali is fooling themselves. High quality outdoor bud in Mendocino can be purchased right now for $900. Step into any Compassion Club in Tempe and Mesa and see for yourself.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
Strain info as far as medicine goes is easy to find. Here is my site with exactly that info (no I do not have every strain but quite a few) http://www.medicaljurisdiction.com/medical-marijuana/mmj-cures/thc-cbd-cbn.htm

Have I grown all of those? No. However, I have grown or am currently growing the major strain variations such as kush, berry, cheese, og, ww, SLH and SSH as well as other GHS new varieties, Pinapples. While I will agree each has its own needs I believe I can tell you how most strains are going to act by the phenotype during growth and the cannabinoids interaction with CB receptors as medicine.
http://www.medicaljurisdiction.com/medical-marijuana/mmj-cures/cbd-cbn-thc.php

Now I think the biggest part to remeber is that a grower may have input as to what to grow but not the final decsision. I as someone who is hiring is not letting you make that decision it would not be in my business plan.

To start this and not be a grower would be foolish. What happens if your grower dies? You better know how to step in and take over or lose a lot of money.

If your not a grower doing the interview your all ready doomed in many ways.
That list is great and all but those percentages will not be indicative of a novice grower. Those stats are a foreshadow of the strain possibilities, which are only achieved under optimal conditions. Also depends on the pheno......
 

personified

Active Member
Yes I have an injury and my typing has gone to shit. I do not have the new Office 2010 and so the new IE does not do spell check. Sorry I mis spelled something. And exchange is so much more than pH.

But hey thanks for pointing out the non relavent.
 

BeaverHuntr

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From watching California and being a part of it in Colorado I can honestly tell you all of that goes out the window once Dispensaries are going.

What Dispensary owners wants: Quality, consistently, reasonably priced.

What growers think they want: The holy grail of herb that has been played Motzart since it was a seed and massaged daily creating the finest herb known to man.

Lots of good quality herb that will sell. Thats it folks.

Also anyone who doesn't think people in Az aren't trafficking still from Cali is fooling themselves. High quality outdoor bud in Mendocino can be purchased right now for $900. Step into any Compassion Club in Tempe and Mesa and see for yourself.
Its always been like that and will be like that. Its real easy for a dispensary grower to say " yeah I grew this myself" when in reality he brought it over from California. Not saying everyone will be doing this but there will dispensary owners not playing by the rules.
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
Yes I have an injury and my typing has gone to shit. I do not have the new Office 2010 and so the new IE does not do spell check. Sorry I mis spelled something. And exchange is so much more than pH.

But hey thanks for pointing out the non relavent.
You're welcome.
 

personified

Active Member
I like the whites. Irieie I noticed somewhere in the posts your rasta. I think the new Sativa strains are from the Jamica strain hunters. They did not have a good expedition and I think they got some weak strains.
 

KAL EL

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To start this and not be a grower would be foolish. What happens if your grower dies? You better know how to step in and take over or lose a lot of money.

If your not a grower doing the interview your all ready doomed in many ways.
You can get your grow insured just in case your grower dies.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Real life in a nutshell, thank you Bird... One can absorb all the knowledge in the world but applying it is another story.

I doubt majority of the dispensary operators know jack about growing anyway, so most of these "tough" questions would not even arise.
That pot of gold is the shiznit! If you guys are into heavy yielders than POG is for you.. I'm drying two plants and they look like they are gonna yield me over 5 ounces each. Barneys farm and Green House genetics arent that great .
Glad you like it man! Went through a ton of phenos to finally obtain that specific one. Gonna need some samples once it is dried and ready to go ;)

From watching California and being a part of it in Colorado I can honestly tell you all of that goes out the window once Dispensaries are going.

What Dispensary owners wants: Quality, consistently, reasonably priced.

What growers think they want: The holy grail of herb that has been played Motzart since it was a seed and massaged daily creating the finest herb known to man.

Lots of good quality herb that will sell. Thats it folks.

Also anyone who doesn't think people in Az aren't trafficking still from Cali is fooling themselves. High quality outdoor bud in Mendocino can be purchased right now for $900. Step into any Compassion Club in Tempe and Mesa and see for yourself.
I'm from California and helped many dispensaries growers start their operation. When you are in the holy Mecca of weed genetics plays a huge roles. Owners want consistency, quality and lots of it. But my point with the breeding and genetics is once you have those elite strains nobody can compete. And if you have a grower that TRULY knows what they are doing, they will ALWAYS have the best. Breeding plays a role as well as the strains you have to offer.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
I like the whites. Irieie I noticed somewhere in the posts your rasta. I think the new Sativa strains are from the Jamica strain hunters. They did not have a good expedition and I think they got some weak strains.
No I am not rasta. What posts did you read? I am a five two 260 white chubby guy with messy red hair. Greenhouse seeds only has weak strains. Their stuff is not very good. Except the slh but I have never grown that out but I heard from others whom have that it is alright. Funny how we all know their shit is crap but they cleared something like 20 mil on seeds alone last year.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
From watching California and being a part of it in Colorado I can honestly tell you all of that goes out the window once Dispensaries are going.

What Dispensary owners wants: Quality, consistently, reasonably priced.

What growers think they want: The holy grail of herb that has been played Motzart since it was a seed and massaged daily creating the finest herb known to man.

Lots of good quality herb that will sell. Thats it folks.

Also anyone who doesn't think people in Az aren't trafficking still from Cali is fooling themselves. High quality outdoor bud in Mendocino can be purchased right now for $900. Step into any Compassion Club in Tempe and Mesa and see for yourself.
I have family in the industry in CO, that is where i started when I was young, it's been tough there recently... What CO scene do you hail from?

Importing is a stupid way to F your business. Those fools will have larger attorney bills than any profit they garner, Federal Case... They can go right ahead and sink themselves...
Why would I import something like that outdoor, when I could legally obtain a LB of dank from my legit growers for not much more than your stated price. Yes, if its your facility and you are paying your growers by harvested weight, the costs should be extremely lucrative. In other states, unlike AZ, Caregivers can sell to dispensaries, those are the people getting paid 3500 a lb. If you are an employee of a dispensary and have not invested any of your own money, I do not imagine you getting paid at that rate. ESP. If all the equipment and electricity are provided...You cannot compare compassion clubs to dispensaries because there is absolutely no oversight from the state.

Not to mention there is probably a dossier on all of the exisitng CC and associated bank accounts. Cases don't get built overnight.
 

BeaverHuntr

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No I am not rasta. What posts did you read? I am a five two 260 white chubby guy with messy red hair. Greenhouse seeds only has weak strains. Their stuff is not very good. Except the slh but I have never grown that out but I heard from others whom have that it is alright. Funny how we all know their shit is crap but they cleared something like 20 mil on seeds alone last year.
Agreed Green House sucks dick outside of their SLH same with Barney farms they send some fire to the Cannabis Cup and thats about it. Customer reviews are horrible.
 

KAL EL

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funny how you name the 2 companies notorious for stealing genetics and saying they bred it.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
Can you say cash business... dossier sure. You seem to have a bias against the clubs. I wonder why that would be do they threaten your prospective business venture. Should be interesting to see how that plays out.
 
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