How To Deal With Trolls.

see, the great thing about riu, is, because of the 'ignore' option, i have no idea what he said to me after i dropped the no feeding the trolls pic on him. (don't tell me, i prefer having the last rational word). i was just sitting here appreciating that.

welcome! if you can get around *them*, there really are lots of nice folks here! ;)
 
(don't tell me, i prefer having the last rational word)
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I forgot what he said. I'm sure he has already moved onto someone else to bother.
I'm here to learn, and to talk amongst people with common interests. There is no room in my brain for arguing with
people on the internet. If I disagree with someone, big deal, no one will even know about it more than likely. If
someone decides to argue or disagree with me, I'll use the ignore button like you said.
So far, there seems to be a lot of decent people here and I hope I can learn something from them, even just by
reading their posts, threads, and journals.
 
If you know someone is trolling how can that bother you? you already know they are a troll so ignore it.. Complaining about trolls is like saying "I know fire is hot but i'm mad that it burned me when i touched it" By not responding to a troll, you completely stop it in its tracks.. Trolls require feedback to carry on..No feedback, no trolling...
 
I seem to have issues with the ignore button. I only have two threads that I care about, and I take it personally when folks come on there and muck it up.
 
Well I find hydro very good, but the taste is not as complex as growing in dirt with cool things like Greensand, kelp, Spanich River Carbonatite, Worm Castings, Composted manures, coco and earth.

I kind of compare hydro to hard liquor and organics to wine, they both get you there one just a lot more enjoyable.

:joint:
 
This is not really on topic but another drawback with hydro is if you're inexperienced you may not properly purge the chemicals before the harvest. If you've ever had bud that requires constant contact with your flame, tastes like crap, and produces tough black ash, you know what I'm talking about.
I like the philosophy of organic, feed the soil not the plant. Now why don't I see many people making compost tea and going organic hydro for a higher quality commercial grow?
Well now that I think of it, high quality commercial would be an oxymoron... and everythng suks and your all stupid biches because bla bla bla anarchy(now it's back on topic:wink:)
 
anymouse said:
... and everythng suks and your all stupid biches because bla bla bla anarchy(now it's back on topic:wink:)
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BWAAAA HAHAHAHA now you need to keep that up for a couple more posts and then finish with "not tryna be an asshole, i just have nothing to smoke right now so i'm grumpy"

Green Inferno said:
I'm starting to notice more and more of "them". A few tried starting with me. I never responded, and as mysteriously as they arrived,
they were gone.
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well, our camp obviously needs more of 'them' just to even out the score (i can be very 'taste of your own medicine' from time to time). except if i ever encounter a militant dirt grower who goes around to hydro journals to cut down folks' methodology, i'd prolly try to stay out of his/her way too.....
 
mellokitty said:
BWAAAA HAHAHAHA now you need to keep that up for a couple more posts and then finish with "not tryna be an asshole, i just have nothing to smoke right now so i'm grumpy"



well, our camp obviously needs more of 'them' just to even out the score (i can be very 'taste of your own medicine' from time to time). except if i ever encounter a militant dirt grower who goes around to hydro journals to cut down folks' methodology, i'd prolly try to stay out of his/her way too.....
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I have only grown outdoors, I can't make an opinion on soil or hydro. So, I will be trying both! Which ever works best for me, I will
use. Both seem to have advantages. I have enough soil, and a hydro system, and 3 types of lighting systems, nothing too special or
big, just enough for me to give it a try before I buy a bunch of stuff, and dedicate a whole room or 2 for my maximum legal limit.
I have LED, HPS, and CFLs. Everything was free and given to me by a friend, except for the LED, I paid $100 for it, got it from a different
friend. Not expecting much from the CFLs. I'm hoping the LED will work good. I will post a journal with my progress and results, I'm sure
there will be plenty of trash talkers telling me LEDs are bad, or hydro is bad, or soil is bad. Or to do this instead of that, or that instead of
this. But I'm sure there will be plenty of people offering genuine help or good criticism.

I have to bite my tongue a lot, some people say some pretty off-the-wall stuff. On top of their insults and ramblings, are usually misspellings.
"your' when they mean "you're", or "there" when they mean "their", or "they're". I'm not saying I'm a genius, but insults, and misspellings are
signs of a kid with computer access, and no life. (you wont even have to look too far up from this post for a good example;) )

I do not believe I have even tried hydro weed before. Some people say it tastes better and is smoother. Some say it is flavorless. My
concern is potency, and it not tasting bad. And of course yield. Have you tried both hydro and soil? You opinion?
 
i've done both.
pound for pound, i've probably grown more hydro, but that's the nature of the beast - big comm grow vs. little persey grow. which, i don't know how to explain it but thusly: pound for pound, the hydro was less work, but, since i actually enjoy playing in the dirt, and a large-scale hydro grower is like a glorified janitor, i didn't enjoy the task at hand as much. that said, i probably wouldn't have been able to grow the same amount in soil with the same available manpower, no way.
my opinion on the finished product? depends on the grower.
my opinion of cannabis is like my opinion of medicine. i believe a holistic approach is going to have more long-run success, whether it's the lifespan of a plant or that of a patient. that said, methodologically speaking, dirt growing, where you have the lifetime of the plant in mind when you start formulating your soil, *tends to be a more holistic approach than hydro, wherein, given the total control available, you can minutely tweak your nutes based on what they look like they need *right *now, and *tends to be a more symptomatic approach. so when you ask me which i think is going to produce a better end product, i'm going to *tend to assume that buddy over here in dirt is going to have a product closer to what nature intended (which is my personal preference), but i'm not going to dismiss the possibility that buddy in hydro knows better what he's doing, either, because if he does he'll get my vote over a dirt grower that *doesn't know what he's doing.
 
mellokitty said:
i've done both.
pound for pound, i've probably grown more hydro, but that's the nature of the beast - big comm grow vs. little persey grow. which, i don't know how to explain it but thusly: pound for pound, the hydro was less work, but, since i actually enjoy playing in the dirt, and a large-scale hydro grower is like a glorified janitor, i didn't enjoy the task at hand as much. that said, i probably wouldn't have been able to grow the same amount in soil with the same available manpower, no way.
my opinion on the finished product? depends on the grower.
my opinion of cannabis is like my opinion of medicine. i believe a holistic approach is going to have more long-run success, whether it's the lifespan of a plant or that of a patient. that said, methodologically speaking, dirt growing, where you have the lifetime of the plant in mind when you start formulating your soil, *tends to be a more holistic approach than hydro, wherein, given the total control available, you can minutely tweak your nutes based on what they look like they need *right *now, and *tends to be a more symptomatic approach. so when you ask me which i think is going to produce a better end product, i'm going to *tend to assume that buddy over here in dirt is going to have a product closer to what nature intended (which is my personal preference), but i'm not going to dismiss the possibility that buddy in hydro knows better what he's doing, either, because if he does he'll get my vote over a dirt grower that *doesn't know what he's doing.
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I wouldn't say I'm commercial minded, or large scale minded. But I am a heavy smoker, and would like to never run out.
My idea that I have in my head right now (until I get a better plan) would be to use 2/3 of my total legal limit for high
yielding, fast finishing strains, in hydro, and some connoisseur quality strains grown in the best soil I can find. But this
is just an idea, and may change once I have a few indoor practice grows completed with my 250 watt HPS, and my LED,
in both soil, and in hydro. I will only use the CFLs to add to my yield.
 
oh yeah, by commercial i meant something more in the neighbourhood of "i could smoke in the style of that 'sublime' song everyday for a year and i probably still couldn't smoke a single whole harvest." (where yield and bag appeal are more important than flavour or high.) fuck i hate pimping out my wisdom on that shit. never again.

i'm a heavy smoker, even by BC standards, and a 1000w hps one-banger kept me in enough weed, with a bit extra. when my best friend figured that out, i had to plug in another one lol. one more and i could've quit waitressing. the golden ratio seems to be "a pound a light or better", which means, once you have your shit dialed in, you should be producing a *minimum of a 1/4 lb every 2/3 months with your 250hps and led combo.

as far as the trying a bunch of different strains/methods, two sides of the coin: a) how else are you going to figure out your preference? but, b) careful not to bite off more than you can chew. if this is your first hydro grow my advice would be to keep it to one strain to start (do a few different ones in dirt if you want, but hydro is a finicky beast), especially if your hydro plants are going to be interconnected. that's one thing i don't like about hydro: one hiccup can mean spectacular failure across the board.
 
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