How much longer to fill these screens and flip?

How many plants should i run under each 4x4 scrog on the next run?

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HydroNito305

HydroNito305

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So how much longer do u guys think it should take to fill these 2 4x4 screens with only one plant under each one? So far I've been on this journey since mid-October, i did start from seed though. Any ideas or feedback from you all is always greatly appreciated.
 
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Mineralz

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What strain is it? Have you scrogged before? Have you lollipopped at all? I think a good rule of thumb to veg until your screen is 70% full or thereabouts and then flip. However, if I were you id try to get them going more horizontal. Remove the smaller growth and fans from underneath your canopy. They will eventually get shaded out and die from lack of light or at best be under-developed. Thin out the middle a bit. If your tops are 2-3" above your screen now then by the time they finish stretch your hard work and efforts may be in vain as the stretch may take over and make the screen obsolete. Do somemore tucking and make sure the ends of your branches are at least screen-heighth and slowly but surely start grooming her underneath. If u can tuck away the bigger fan leaves on top of your canopy then great, but it isn't a ridiculous thought to remove some of them to open up more light to squares next to them. Overall they look like beastly plants and you should do well. Just remember to tuck WHENEVER you can especially through the stretch. Maybe another wk or 2 on veg? They've got plenty of light so I would be expecting a fair amount of stretch
 
HydroNito305

HydroNito305

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Mineralz said:
What strain is it? Have you scrogged before? Have you lollipopped at all? I think a good rule of thumb to veg until your screen is 70% full or thereabouts and then flip. However, if I were you id try to get them going more horizontal. Remove the smaller growth and fans from underneath your canopy. They will eventually get shaded out and die from lack of light or at best be under-developed. Thin out the middle a bit. If your tops are 2-3" above your screen now then by the time they finish stretch your hard work and efforts may be in vain as the stretch may take over and make the screen obsolete. Do somemore tucking and make sure the ends of your branches are at least screen-heighth and slowly but surely start grooming her underneath. If u can tuck away the bigger fan leaves on top of your canopy then great, but it isn't a ridiculous thought to remove some of them to open up more light to squares next to them. Overall they look like beastly plants and you should do well. Just remember to tuck WHENEVER you can especially through the stretch. Maybe another wk or 2 on veg? They've got plenty of light so I would be expecting a fair amount of stretch
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The strain is "Big Bomb" from Bomb Seeds. I have already lollipoped and pruned quite a bit.image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg
 
HydroNito305

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I went with one plant under each screen because i had a buddy who would do only one plant per 1000 watt light religiously, and he would consistently get 2+ lbs. per plant that way. I suggested to him about doing more plants per light, like 4 or even 6 and he completely shrugged at the idea suggesting that it would result in a crappy yield, is this true? While im aware that more plants doesn't necessarily increase yield doesn't at least make it out to where you can cut down on veg time tremendously while still getting the same kind of yield per light?
 
SPLFreak808

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HydroNito305 said:
I went with one plant under each screen because i had a buddy who would do only one plant per 1000 watt light religiously, and he would consistently get 2+ lbs. per plant that way. I suggested to him about doing more plants per light, like 4 or even 6 and he completely shrugged at the idea suggesting that it would result in a crappy yield, is this true? While im aware that more plants doesn't necessarily increase yield doesn't at least make it out to where you can cut down on veg time tremendously while still getting the same kind of yield per light?
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It would take more work in flower but less time to veg. I do two per 1000's in 7/10 gallons. Anyways you look like you could veg for 2-4 more weeks just keep pulling the stretched growth to an outer square to keep things even.
 
Mineralz

Mineralz

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This was my very 1st true scrog like 3-4 yrs ago. 4 plants in a 3x3 under 1 400w Sun System HPS. 2 Nirvana Bubblicious and 2 Nirvana Wonder Woman. Veg'd for like 4-5 weeks then trained as they stretched. Ended up coming out very well I think at like 0.79 grams per watt for 315 gms total dry
 
HydroNito305

HydroNito305

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SPLFreak808 said:
Most of the time yes.
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So do you put the 2 plants in 10 gallon pots under a 4x4 as well, or do you use a smaller or bigger screen?

Also when i started these seeds i soaked them using the water cup method until they sprouted which was around 3 or 4 days and then i placed them tap root down into sum rockwool cubes. Once they came up out of the rockwool cubes and roots developed out the bottom I transplanted them to party cups with holes poked out the bottom for drainage. Once the roots reached the bottom of the cups i transplanted them to 1 gallon pots, and then to 5 gallon pots where i started to get a little root bound right before transplanting them to the 15 gallon pots in which they are in now. So at the incredibly fast rate at which these plant's root systems are growing and developing, what size pots do you think i'll end up finishing in and how many more transplants do you think i should need on the way there?
 
Gquebed

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Six of one and a half dozen of the other.

By doing one plant per light your friend cuts out more work with soil transplanting and etc but has to veg longer to get his 2lbs per light.

You could go four plants per light and do more work up front with smaller plants and get the same yield a little bit faster.

Think of it like this. There is only so much light to be had by the plants. Whether you spread one plant out to use it all or share it among many plants, the available light can only produce so much.
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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HydroNito305 said:
So do you put the 2 plants in 10 gallon pots under a 4x4 as well, or do you use a smaller or bigger screen?

Also when i started these seeds i soaked them using the water cup method until they sprouted which was around 3 or 4 days and then i placed them tap root down into sum rockwool cubes. Once they came up out of the rockwool cubes and roots developed out the bottom I transplanted them to party cups with holes poked out the bottom for drainage. Once the roots reached the bottom of the cups i transplanted them to 1 gallon pots, and then to 5 gallon pots where i started to get a little root bound right before transplanting them to the 15 gallon pots in which they are in now. So at the incredibly fast rate at which these plant's root systems are growing and developing, what size pots do you think i'll end up finishing in and how many more transplants do you think i should need on the way there?
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Yep. 2 plants 60 day veg day 45 gets the 10 gallon flower pot depending on how quick shits going. Yield is usually anywhere from 12-16 zips per plant depending on genetics. The same thing with one plant would probably take a month longer veg but idk I've never tried 1 plant per 1kw, i veg with hps so i refuse to veg any longer then 60 days.
 
HydroNito305

HydroNito305

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The other thing about my setup is that I currently have 3 1k HPS over the entire grow area, 2 of which are directly centered over the plants and screens themselves, and 1 that's centered inbetween both of them (which is currently off) for a total of 3000 watts. My question is whenever i flip to 12/12 would turning on this 3rd 1k HPS increase my yield with the hopes of getting anywhere near 6 lbs. or is that too high of an expectancy for a mere 2 plants even if i was to fill up the entire 4x9 grow space?
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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HydroNito305 said:
The other thing about my setup is that I currently have 3 1k HPS over the entire grow area, 2 of which are directly centered over the plants and screens themselves, and 1 that's centered inbetween both of them (which is currently off) for a total of 3000 watts. My question is whenever i flip to 12/12 would turning on this 3rd 1k HPS increase my yield with the hopes of getting anywhere near 6 lbs. or is that too high of an expectancy for a mere 2 plants even if i was to fill up the entire 4x9?
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Whats the internal dimension of the room? The 3rd light would help yield but it wont automatically give you an extra 1/3 yield unless you have the proper canopy to use it.
 
HydroNito305

HydroNito305

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SPLFreak808 said:
Whats the internal dimension of the room? The 3rd light would help yield but it wont automatically give you an extra 1/3 yield unless you have the proper canopy to use it.
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The entire room is 117"x117" inches, or 9.75'x9.75' feet, with roughly half of that being actual grow space. I made two 4'x4' foot screens and placed them all the way against the backwall of the room, and spaced them as far apart from each other as possible, leaving a gap inbetween only large enough to accomodate a 20lb CO2 tank, so about maybe a foot +/-, so therefore i believe once both plants develop individual strong canopies that form thru their pertaining screens, they should overlap slightly or at the very least combine creating 1 unified super canopy to cover the entire area.
 
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SPLFreak808

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HydroNito305 said:
The entire room is 117"x117" inches, or 9.75'x9.75' feet, with roughly half of that being actual grow space. I made two 4'x4' foot screens and placed them all the way against the backwall of the room, and spaced them as far apart from each other as possible, leaving a gap inbetween only large enough to accomodate a 20lb CO2 tank, so about maybe a foot +/-, so therefore i believe once both plants develop individual strong canopies that form thru their pertaining screens, they should overlap slightly or at the very least combine creating 1 unified super canopy to cover the entire area.
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Yeah well, thats up to you. I dont think it will increase the yield to actually make up for the electricity spent. Maybe you could turn it on from week 4-6 of flower to help bulk up the plant a bit then shut it back off.
 
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