How much for a pound near you?

Muzzle2

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A lot of people around are stopping. I'm hearing whispers that prices are starting to go back up. Not skyrise up, but better than what we're used to seeing in the past 12 months. Hopefully it's good enough to keep the strong going. I'm fortunate to have a good broker now and almost always move product, but I'm hoping everyone can win.
 

UpstateRecGrower

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A lot of people around are stopping. I'm hearing whispers that prices are starting to go back up. Not skyrise up, but better than what we're used to seeing in the past 12 months. Hopefully it's good enough to keep the strong going. I'm fortunate to have a good broker now and almost always move product, but I'm hoping everyone can win.
Same here, I know of people that are giving up or already have. Obviously the people trying to unload what they have for a few hundred bucks aren't going to stay in the game at those prices, they'll unload what they have and do something else..
 

Muzzle2

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I'm not sure if it was, but it feels like a market correction. The market had way too much supply and most supply was not triple A. It seemed like too many options were available and a lot of new growers were in fear.

For instance, one broker would say your product is amazing, but I have someone offering me product with a bit less quality for much less $$.

Once fear strikes, you'd rather dump your product then lose on it. Brokers having excess supply were able to play that game. However, now that supply has become less you'd assume prices would naturally rise. Which I feel like that's happening.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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I wouldn't get back or continue doing it even if prices came back up slightly to say $1200. It would take $2500 (it'll never happen) to change my mind, and then you have to consider IF you can move it. There's going to have to be 1000's less growers, and a lot less Dispensaries.
 

kingzt

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In Michigan prices dropped fastin the past 2 years. Both on the rec side and the legacy side. Still hard to find quality though. Seems like people don’t want that but rather a good deal. Really cant blame them sonce most households are having to budget more now a days. I’ve seen good stuff at dispos for $150 though.

I’ve been told a few times by workers at some larger grows that a lot of flower gets remediated. I don’t know that first hand just what I’ve been told from folks on the inside. There was some talk that these rec stores should label the product that been through remediation but that probably got squashed fast.

I also see a lot of folks posting pics of their great deals on reddit and the stuff was harvested in April. The dispos in bigger cities are doing alright but the ones in Rural areas I don’t believe are doing too good.

As far as black market so many people are dropping like flies. You can find great deals on equipment on craigslist. All the expensive leds are being sold for cheap. Think i seen some gavitas 1700s for like $400 per fixture. There is still some growers though hanging in there. They would be better if there was outlets where they deal with people directly maybe like the ole weedmaps days.

The average consumer now i believe doesn’t even know what good bud looks like I’m convinced. So much machine trimmed bullshit out there. But hey if it’s purple and got some long stalked trichs, people will eat it up at $20 an 8er.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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In Michigan prices dropped fastin the past 2 years. Both on the rec side and the legacy side. Still hard to find quality though. Seems like people don’t want that but rather a good deal. Really cant blame them sonce most households are having to budget more now a days. I’ve seen good stuff at dispos for $150 though.

I’ve been told a few times by workers at some larger grows that a lot of flower gets remediated. I don’t know that first hand just what I’ve been told from folks on the inside. There was some talk that these rec stores should label the product that been through remediation but that probably got squashed fast.

I also see a lot of folks posting pics of their great deals on reddit and the stuff was harvested in April. The dispos in bigger cities are doing alright but the ones in Rural areas I don’t believe are doing too good.

As far as black market so many people are dropping like flies. You can find great deals on equipment on craigslist. All the expensive leds are being sold for cheap. Think i seen some gavitas 1700s for like $400 per fixture. There is still some growers though hanging in there. They would be better if there was outlets where they deal with people directly maybe like the ole weedmaps days.

The average consumer now i believe doesn’t even know what good bud looks like I’m convinced. So much machine trimmed bullshit out there. But hey if it’s purple and got some long stalked trichs, people will eat it up at $20 an 8er.
We figured that out pretty quick… people want cheap weed… well, you can’t make good weed for cheap. You can make mids fairly cheap. In the beginning of our business, we made sure every bud looked perfect… that’s when we were getting $2800 lbs, now… I don’t care to make it look like a High Times magazine centerfold if you’re only gonna pay $400 lbs.
 

kingzt

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We figured that out pretty quick… people want cheap weed… well, you can’t make good weed for cheap. You can make mids fairly cheap. In the beginning of our business, we made sure every bud looked perfect… that’s when we were getting $2800 lbs, now… I don’t care to make it look like a High Times magazine centerfold if you’re only gonna pay $400 lbs.
Right even the great caregivers in Michigan who made the transition to the legal side thought that $50/8ers would last if the it was the best. That didn’t last long. I believe there is still some on the market but it’s usually hype stuff that is new the to the market and people want to try it. Not sure what to expect now. The state is talking about not issuing licenses for a bit. Its funny because it’s the cities that dictate who can grow within their limits and majority of the cities in the state don’t allow it. So there’s probably a handful of large licensed producers creating most of the product. If they push out all the smaller grows both on the legal and black market and the state doesn’t issue any more licenses for a set time they will have the market cornered.
 

kingzt

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The water weight alone in greens and veggies is seemingly worth more than cannabis now IMO.

How much for an oz of microgreens (mostly water) near you?
Not sure to be honest but a switch over would be nice. I always love going to the nursery and picking out flowers in the spring. I can’t really recall a lot of place’s using micro greens at their restaurants. Seems like a very niche market.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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At this point I could raise a calf for slaughter in my grow space and make more money.
I mentioned this in another thread, but that's what we do.. trade a lb. for a steer every year... split it with a family member who pays for the processing, and get about 300lbs of local grass fed beef. So, that puts our cost to produce a lb of weed at $400.. so about $1.33 a lb for steaks, roasts, ground beef, etc
 

orangejesus

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so... how much should someone make growing/selling legal cannabis?
40 hours a week, 52 weeks = 2080 hours
$20/hour? $40?
Your first year?
5th?
20th?
Assuming you put in eight hours a day, five days a week.
 

DoubleAtotheRON

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so... how much should someone make growing/selling legal cannabis?
40 hours a week, 52 weeks = 2080 hours
$20/hour? $40?
Your first year?
5th?
20th?
Assuming you put in eight hours a day, five days a week.
As a lead grower, I would expect to make $75K a year. It's a lot of work, and no days off. But when you get down to paying to do it.... things change. And then you have expenses.. nutes, electric, sticky traps, paper, ink, invoices, marketing, tools, equipment, fees, taxes.... it never ends.
 
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Drop That Sound

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List of the Cons of Animal Cloning
1. Animal cloning is an expensive process.
The current cost to clone an animal which is used for livestock is about $20,000 per instance. If you want to clone a champion racehorse, the basic cost is over $150,000 for each attempt. You could ask someone to clone your cat for you if you have $25,000 to invest. Cloning dogs is more expensive, priced at $50,000 and above. Since the millions that were spent to clone Dolly the sheep, science has helped to bring cloning toward mainstream society ever so slowly. At the moment, however, it is an opportunity which is still available to only a select few.

2. From a reproduction standpoint, every other method is better than cloning.
Animal cloning is the least reliable method of reproduction right now. Numerous defects occur during the cloning process that are potentially fatal to the offspring. Even if you were to front the $20,000 to clone your favorite cow, there is a 25% that the animal will suffer from “hydrops,’ which causes edema. About 6% of cows are oversized, which may threaten the life of the mother. It took hundreds of attempts to produce the first successful animal clone. Today’s rates of success are better, but it is still far from a perfect science.



About 20k..

That's pretty cheap now days! I'm kinda surprised you can actually pay some to clone animals for you, lol.
 
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