How long for nanners?

Hey RIU,
I'm going to try to induce a hermie in a plant I'll be harvesting soon.
I'm going to harvest the top 4 feet, and leave the bottom foot, then use dark period interruption to try to get her to grow some nanners and pollinate herself.
My question is how long does it take nanners to form after I start interrupting the dark period? I've found lots of info on how to detect nanners, and lots more on how to overreact if I do find them, but nothing on how long they take to grow, or how long it takes for them to start releasing pollen.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Or barring that a source of Cherry Bomb pollen in Southern Ontario
Thanks in advance

CanadianJim said:

Hey RIU,
I'm going to try to induce a hermie in a plant I'll be harvesting soon.
I'm going to harvest the top 4 feet, and leave the bottom foot, then use dark period interruption to try to get her to grow some nanners and pollinate herself.
My question is how long does it take nanners to form after I start interrupting the dark period? I've found lots of info on how to detect nanners, and lots more on how to overreact if I do find them, but nothing on how long they take to grow, or how long it takes for them to start releasing pollen.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Or barring that a source of Cherry Bomb pollen in Southern Ontario
Thanks in advance

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Nanners and hermies are two different things. Sometimes nanners appear early in flower. Sometimes late. The timeline you are trying to work with will be too late to produce seed. Consider STS instead. On another grow. Early.

I’ve got some huge Cherry Bomb colas. These suckers produce.

hotrodharley said:

Nanners and hermies are two different things. Sometimes nanners appear early in flower. Sometimes late. The timeline you are trying to work with will be too late to produce seed. Consider STS instead. On another grow. Early.

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I should've specified stress hermie, rather than genetic. My bad.
If it's too late then how does rhodelization work? Where a plant that's been in flower too long tries to pollinate herself? The plant in question is in a pot, so the weather isn't a problem. I have no experience with hermies of any kind, or nanners, or pollination for that matter. My indoor grows all went off without them, probably because I used regular seeds for my first few.

CanadianJim said:

Hey RIU,
I'm going to try to induce a hermie in a plant I'll be harvesting soon.
I'm going to harvest the top 4 feet, and leave the bottom foot, then use dark period interruption to try to get her to grow some nanners and pollinate herself.
My question is how long does it take nanners to form after I start interrupting the dark period? I've found lots of info on how to detect nanners, and lots more on how to overreact if I do find them, but nothing on how long they take to grow, or how long it takes for them to start releasing pollen.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Or barring that a source of Cherry Bomb pollen in Southern Ontario
Thanks in advance

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Yeah don't fuck about. Harvest most of the plant. Reveg it, take a clone or 5 then reverse either the clone or the mother and pollinate the other to get female seeds.
As hotrod says, use STS or colloidal silver. STS is less work.
Schwaggy P has a great guide in his random thread.

coreywebster said:

Yeah don't fuck about. Harvest most of the plant. Reveg it, take a clone or 5 then reverse either the clone or the mother and pollinate the other to get female seeds.
As hotrod says, use STS or colloidal silver. STS is less work.
Schwaggy P has a great guide in his random thread.

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Hotrod is usually right, I'll probably end up reveging the bottom foot, if I can.
Maybe just photoperiod stress her after she gets bigger. I'm not going to bother trying to clone her again. 10 clones, 2 different methods, no roots.
100+ attempts to clone, with experienced people watching me, confirming I'd done it right and conditions were right. No roots. I'm like some sort of wizard when it comes to cloning, only I kill them all.

CanadianJim said:

Hotrod is usually right, I'll probably end up reveging the bottom foot, if I can.
Maybe just photoperiod stress her after she gets bigger. I'm not going to bother trying to clone her again. 10 clones, 2 different methods, no roots.
100+ attempts to clone, with experienced people watching me, confirming I'd done it right and conditions were right. No roots. I'm like some sort of wizard when it comes to cloning, only I kill them all.

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Read about Marijuana Regeneration System. There’s a book. Good advice for regenerating a plant after chop. A bit different than a simple reveg but just as easy. Read it before you chop so you cut it the way you’ll want the stump.

https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/harvesting-for-regeneration/

Free and probably same info as the book.

hotrodharley said:

Read about Marijuana Regeneration System. There’s a book. Good advice for regenerating a plant after chop. A bit different than a simple reveg but just as easy. Read it before you chop so you cut it the way you’ll want the stump.

https://www.dinafem.org/en/blog/harvesting-for-regeneration/

Free and probably same info as the book.

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Thanks for the link. I've got some reading to do!

CanadianJim said:

Thanks for the link. I've got some reading to do!

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Sealing that stump is very important. Good luck. I think you will find this interesting.

CanadianJim said:

Hotrod is usually right, I'll probably end up reveging the bottom foot, if I can.
Maybe just photoperiod stress her after she gets bigger. I'm not going to bother trying to clone her again. 10 clones, 2 different methods, no roots.
100+ attempts to clone, with experienced people watching me, confirming I'd done it right and conditions were right. No roots. I'm like some sort of wizard when it comes to cloning, only I kill them all.

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Could just be the strain.
I would try again anyway with a simple tray of perlite and low light levels.

But I get ya, ive only ever had one strain which was a true bitch to clone, took 4-5 weeks where others would take 7-10days.

coreywebster said:

Could just be the strain.
I would try again anyway with a simple tray of perlite and low light levels.

But I get ya, ive only ever had one strain which was a true bitch to clone, took 4-5 weeks where others would take 7-10days.

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4 different strains, 3 different root stimulators, used on all the strains, sometimes in all possible combinations LOL.
I once got irradiated apple seeds to germinate. One even survived to become a healthy tree (the rest were mutated and died over the course of the first year). I can get almost anything to grow from seed. Not a single cutting I have ever taken from any plant has survived. I'm going to keep trying, but I have low expectations.

CanadianJim said:

4 different strains, 3 different root stimulators, used on all the strains, sometimes in all possible combinations LOL.
I once got irradiated apple seeds to germinate. One even survived to become a healthy tree (the rest were mutated and died over the course of the first year). I can get almost anything to grow from seed. Not a single cutting I have ever taken from any plant has survived. I'm going to keep trying, but I have low expectations.

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These Cherry Bomb rooted clones in used pro mix. I’m definitely interested in some regular seeds of it. Got these from a friend who had nanners. These have yet to throw one even under 1000 watts. He had told me his resulted from some early light issues. He was surprised to find seeds. Only a few too sadly.

Cherry Bomb clone untopped in a 3 gallon. It was 2 weeks old. Had to supercrop it to keep it on level with others.

CanadianJim said:

4 different strains, 3 different root stimulators, used on all the strains, sometimes in all possible combinations LOL.
I once got irradiated apple seeds to germinate. One even survived to become a healthy tree (the rest were mutated and died over the course of the first year). I can get almost anything to grow from seed. Not a single cutting I have ever taken from any plant has survived. I'm going to keep trying, but I have low expectations.

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Cut healthy branches. Not wispy shit. Scrape the outer stem layer off with the edge of a blade. Like stringing celery. Dip in honey and then into Mykos or Great White or whatever brand. Insert into Dixie cups with moistened potting soil. Black Gold Seedling Mix is perfect. Be sure there’s lots and lots of drainage holes including a few on the sides. I don’t cover with a dome. Others do. Mist daily with regular tap water. Only add water to the medium if it actually dries out. Then under low light. Be patient.

Add: when I say dries out have some common sense. Not like the Mojave.

WHOO HOO (provisional)!
I was just checking over the plant and down at the bottom there is a tiny cluster of old dried out nanners, and a t least 3 green seeds! They're full size, just green!
They're probably from the nanners, but the reason my celebration is restrained is I think one of my neighbours has a male plant. He put out a little stick of a sativa in a bucket about a month ago, and it started to flower even though he seems to have an aversion to caring for it, and by flower I mean it has a bunch of balls, and I can't get close enough to see if they have pistils sticking out.
Whatever, seeds are seeds. I'd be happier if I knew they were pure Cherry Bomb, but anyway.
Full size green seeds, about how much longer till they're mature you think?

hotrodharley said:

Cut healthy branches. Not wispy shit. Scrape the outer stem layer off with the edge of a blade. Like stringing celery. Dip in honey and then into Mykos or Great White or whatever brand. Insert into Dixie cups with moistened potting soil. Black Gold Seedling Mix is perfect. Be sure there’s lots and lots of drainage holes including a few on the sides. I don’t cover with a dome. Others do. Mist daily with regular tap water. Only add water to the medium if it actually dries out. Then under low light. Be patient.

Add: when I say dries out have some common sense. Not like the Mojave.

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Change the honey to rooting gel and/or rooting powder, remove the mykos and great white, and change the black gold to miracle grow seedling mix, and you have one of the methods I tried with a Master Kush, and a Haze x Unknown (possibly Cheese). 5 of each with a dome, and two months later when those had failed 5 more without the dome, under a single bulb 24" t5 backed off to 18". Medium moistened daily by misting and a tiny bit of water added from the bottom. Medium was suitably moist for a seedling, but never wet.

So I checked out the breeders forum, and one of the posts there said you can reveg a plant that has seeds growing and they'll continue to develop. So do you guys think that would happen if I rejuv her?

CanadianJim said:

Change the honey to rooting gel and/or rooting powder, remove the mykos and great white, and change the black gold to miracle grow seedling mix, and you have one of the methods I tried with a Master Kush, and a Haze x Unknown (possibly Cheese). 5 of each with a dome, and two months later when those had failed 5 more without the dome, under a single bulb 24" t5 backed off to 18". Medium moistened daily by misting and a tiny bit of water added from the bottom. Medium was suitably moist for a seedling, but never wet.

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Miracle Grow isn't helping make it any easier for ya. Better soil and the rest of what hot rod said.

PadawanWarrior said:

Miracle Grow isn't helping make it any easier for ya. Better soil and the rest of what hot rod said.

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Thanks, but that's just one of the things I've tried, including compost and potting soil from a few different companies.