How fast are people seeing roots in their EZ-Clone's???

poindexterous

poindexterous

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So I've been through many rounds in my two ez-cloners, trying many variations, temp, additives, hormones, light, etc, etc, even a phone consultation with the company. And while I've got it to be a fairly consistent propagation method I never see roots in 5 days as I hear is possible, more like twice that time.

How fast are you all getting roots? And what's your best ez-clone method? Does the strain make a big difference?

Thanks!
 
Mongobud

Mongobud

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10ml of clonex liquid, 10ml of aquashield, 12 drops of House and Garden Roots Excelorator ( all per gallon ) I also use the gel Clonex for a dip. I also shave the epidermis first layer of the cuttings skin before I dip. "root scarification" but not necessary.

I see Roots form in 5 days, I wait another day then plant.
 
poindexterous

poindexterous

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Mongobud said:
10ml of clonex liquid, 10ml of aquashield, 12 drops of House and Garden Roots Excelorator ( all per gallon ) I also use the gel Clonex for a dip. I also shave the epidermis first layer of the cuttings skin before I dip. "root scarification" but not necessary.

I see Roots form in 5 days, I wait another day then plant.
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I'd sure like to get closer to 5 days. Is that Roots Excelurator hormonal, nutrient, or both? And aquashield is beneficial micro's right? I just started adding some great white, yet to see how it does. I dip in Clonex and/or rootech and add a squirt of hormex. I'll try the scarification next time, never done that.
 
Mongobud

Mongobud

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Roots excel is a very concentrated benefial, aquashield is a nutrient uptake catalyst. Roots is also very clean and completely dissolves in ro water. Its liquid not granulated or powder which can clog your cloner.
 
Mongobud

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...I also clean my cloner with 10ml of 12% h2o2 in between uses. Then flush it again with pure ro.

Do not use h2o2 in conjunction with benefials or organics of any kind however. ..don't add it to your nutrient mix.
 
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henery

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I find warm water temp eg 75 and cooler air temp eg 70 promotes root development instead of leaf development!
One other trick I use is cutting the branch right at the internode witch has hormones that will help rooting!
Oh yeah and the strain does have allot to do with it as some are super easy and some are a bitch!
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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roots in 6 days, transplant in 13 days. for some strains i think u have to have 2 noids below the n004.jpgeopreme, scrape, and use root tec gel. i would never use roots excelerator in ez cloner, cost alot just to root. i do use it in everything else.007.jpg
 
poindexterous

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a mongo frog said:
roots in 6 days, transplant in 13 days. for some strains i think u have to have 2 noids below the neoprene, scrape, and use root tec gel. i would never use roots excelerator in ez cloner, cost alot just to root. i do use it in everything else.
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So besides gel nothing else just plain water?
 
CaptainCAVEMAN

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Urban Garden had an article a few months ago and in it talked with the creator of the EZ Clone. He suggested Clonex rooting gel and tapwater. That's it. Thats what I use and it works great. Another thing I do is hook it up to a timer that runs 15min on and 15 min off 24/7. This helps keep water temps down and seems to help promote root growth. I see roots around 5 days but still can't transplant till around 10 days. Inventor guy also recommended waiting till roots show tiny hairs to transplant.
 
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marmarb

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tap water clonex on the clones 10 day transplant works like magic i do however a 5 days add about 10 ml of grow big to the rez i dont like the yellowing on the leaves just me
 
poindexterous

poindexterous

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Everyone likes clonex it seems. I don't think I'm doing anything much different than most here. Maybe some strains are just a bit slower? I also wonder about how much foliage to leave on the clones, I am surprised to see several fan leaves on many peoples cuttings, I always though the rule was just one leaf or maybe two max. When I used oasis wedges I'd leave just the tip since there was so little space. Perhaps the ez-clone does better with more leaf area??
 
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marmarb

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dont take anything off of the plant the fan leaves feed the plant untill the roots and start sustaining the clone clonex comes with the unit so pple just stick with it you know good luck thou i got some in there now and im on day 4 i believe not sure as im gonna leave them in the cloner for about three weeks gonna let them veg in there for three weeks and than they go into flower
 
Mongobud

Mongobud

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Cut your fan leaves in half, and only leave the top new growth uncut. Roots Excelorator in a benefial bactria root innoculate. Not only do roots form quicker with use, but tiny white "feeder hairs" form instead of white roots that look like smooth worms. I swear by the shit, that and aquashield. RE is completely soluble. and all you need is 6-12 drops per gallon.

...and IMHO your waiting way to long to plant those clones MongoFrog.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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thats not true. im waiting to long to plant those. please tell me your joking. tell us how many clone u do a year, stop sayin stuff u know nothing about. i really dont know if your joking or not. and if your not ill bet your broke.
 
Mongobud

Mongobud

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I mean that's fine if your in soil. But in rockwool cubes I'd have hell transplanting wioth roots that long. I do 30 clones per month. Straight to hugo blocks. I have planted with roots that long but there ready to go way before that. Not trying to disrespect you brotha, just saying those look like they should have been transplanted days before those pictures.

...Your method obviously works Frog. I'm not putting you on the spot, so don't start making assumtions homie.
 
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marmarb

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i actually veg in my ezcloner just move the clones to the outside cloner i have the 60 site ez cloner so i have the extra room away from the pump and sprayers and transpant straight into hydroton so i can go directly into flower after 3 days done this with coco as well and no problems 3 weeks in a cloner i have alot of roots
 
Mongobud

Mongobud

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Yea it's easy to transplant clones with long roots into straight hydroton and broken up coco. You can remove rockwool from cubes to make room for longer roots as well, it's just a pain in the ass.

I mean why wait that long when the goal is to get them to veg or flower quick?

I'm not trying to butt heads with anyone. Everyone develops a technique that works well for them and thats fucking awesome.
 
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