How Do We Eradicate Religion From Modern Society?

Luger187

Luger187

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Hepheastus420 said:
why is it that you can't understand me when I say over and over that I have no evidence nor can I prove anything. So if neither of us fan prove anything then we are arguing for fucking nothing, get what I'm saying? Damn we are going in circles. Ugh I need another bowl.
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if you have nothing, why do you believe it? why is it such a big fucking deal in your life if there is no real reason to believe it? why waste your time on a total guess?
i understand what you are saying. but i dont feel that we are arguing over nothing. the religion you subscribe to affects my life, and i would like to just know why people like you(no offense) believe. you are making extraordinary claims(god definitely exists and created the universe and jesus was a real prophet) that you say has no evidence at all, yet still whole-heartedly believe in it. WHY?! how do you not see that you are apparently believing in your religion for no reason at all? you see other religions as not true because they have nothing to stand on. whats different about christianity?

i dont mean for this to sound like an attack. i really am curious how this kind of thing happens and why
 
mexiblunt

mexiblunt

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Underthelight said:
We are all atheists in some form, the lack of believe is all atheism is. So as soon as you realized why you dismiss all other gods through out history other then whatever you may believe now, you will realize why I would dismiss yours.
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Welcome to rollitup! This is not correct but I hear what ur saying. It is only correct if the "whatever you believe now part has no deities".
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Luger187 said:
if you have nothing, why do you believe it? why is it such a big fucking deal in your life if there is no real reason to believe it? why waste your time on a total guess?
i understand what you are saying. but i dont feel that we are arguing over nothing. the religion you subscribe to affects my life, and i would like to just know why people like you(no offense) believe. you are making extraordinary claims(god definitely exists and created the universe and jesus was a real prophet) that you say has no evidence at all, yet still whole-heartedly believe in it. WHY?! how do you not see that you are apparently believing in your religion for no reason at all? you see other religions as not true because they have nothing to stand on. whats different about christianity?

i dont mean for this to sound like an attack. i really am curious how this kind of thing happens and why
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Alot of the messages from the bible are very true to me. I have looked into other religions but Christianity just stuck with me. Jesus is a great role model and I honestly want to follow in his footsteps. I have no proof but I don't need any. If for some reason I would lie and say I killed in the name of god then I could understand why I would need evidence to back myself up. But the thing is I hurt nobody and don't vote when it comes to politics so I really don't affect anyone's lives including yours. If it does affect anyone's lives it would be my own life. And that's ok because it only has positive qualities FOR ME. I can't answer why anyone else believes in a religion because I can't choose whether or not I want them to believe in a god.
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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Hepheastus420 said:
Who said we don't believe in science?
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Hahaha... Well history for one...you guys get the convenience of saying it isn.t science if you dont believe it. Hawkings just said our universe easnt created by god and has mathematical and scientific backing...how do you feel about that?
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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Hepheastus420 said:
Alot of the messages from the bible are very true to me. I have looked into other religions but Christianity just stuck with me. Jesus is a great role model and I honestly want to follow in his footsteps. I have no proof but I don't need any. If for some reason I would lie and say I killed in the name of god then I could understand why I would need evidence to back myself up. But the thing is I hurt nobody and don't vote when it comes to politics so I really don't affect anyone's lives including yours. If it does affect anyone's lives it would be my own life. And that's ok because it only has positive qualities FOR ME. I can't answer why anyone else believes in a religion because I can't choose whether or not I want them to believe in a god.
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And I.m sure you gave all the other religions an honest chance right, like budhism... Beside that, what does thinking jesus was cool have anything to do with christianity? Lets be real, jesus's words are like 50 pages out of a 12oo page bible. Christianity really has nothing to do with jesus aside from needing a mascot, or as the spanish like to say, mascote...hahaha sorry, a bit baked now
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Filthy Phil said:
Hahaha... Well history for one...you guys get the convenience of saying it isn.t science if you dont believe it. Hawkings just said our universe easnt created by god and has mathematical and scientific backing...how do you feel about that?
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First of it is isn't not easnt. And it's isn't not isn.t.
Next, Please show me the proof that this guy knows how the universe was created.
After that please tell me how there was nothing and that certain nothing exploded and became our universe.
Also what time are you talking about when you say history?
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Filthy Phil said:
And I.m sure you gave all the other religions an honest chance right, like budhism... Beside that, what does thinking jesus was cool have anything to do with christianity? Lets be real, jesus's words are like 50 pages out of a 12oo page bible. Christianity really has nothing to do with jesus aside from needing a mascot, or as the spanish like to say, mascote...hahaha sorry, a bit baked now
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Yes you are completely right. It was my mistake for thinking CHRISTianity had anything to do with following Jesus CHRIST.
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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They should call it Paul-ianity since he had more to say that jesus did...but no one wants to worship a psychotic executioner... The deeper I get into this talk the more I think the only answe IS like in the Bible, have them all axed...talk about a self fulfilling professy. I think that is part of y'alls problem, te inherrant victimization that comes from believing we will eventually want to kill you all. Fucking martyrs
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Filthy Phil said:
They should call it Paul-ianity since he had more to say that jesus did...but no one wants to worship a psychotic executioner... The deeper I get into this talk the more I think the only answe IS like in the Bible, have them all axed...talk about a self fulfilling professy. I think that is part of y'alls problem, te inherrant victimization that comes from believing we will eventually want to kill you all. Fucking martyrs
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So pretty much you have nothing beneficial to bring to the table, am I correct?
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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Hahaha, buddy, you have no idea what I have to bring to the table, its just not wroth the time it takes to blast another one of you out of the water by typing through my cellphone...trust me, I know your damn bible, cover to fucking cover. I also know the hiatory of christianity, the history of religion, the sociological a.d psychological aspects of it all... Yoh have no fucking idea, sitti.g across from a table with a panel of judges, like we do it in the intellectual debate world, I would rip you a new asshole so fucking big you.d look like a swarm of sharks just took you for dinner. You dont even know pal... I'm trying to be polite and somewhat diplomatic, its just aggrevating, its hard to have patience with the religious...
 
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Underthelight

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I did not realize how heated the discussion was, I was raised Roman Catholic so I studied the Bible (Old and New Testament ) exclusively until I was older , I know it quite well, and must say I never questioned a thing at first.Later in life I started learning about what occurred through history in the name of my specific form of Christianity and began to have deep questions no one could/would answer for me, like whom combined the Bible in it's current form and why, what was lost in the original translations, why some of the gospels were left out, why so many had to die in the crusades, why we share so many pagan holidays and traditions, why the protestants separated from the main church long ago, etc. I studied the other gospels next which showed quite a different view on things, at that time I decided to read the Qur'an, it just lead me to have more questions on how this all came about, next was the religion of the Egyptians and how that was constantly evolving , then the older European gods of the Greeks, Romans, and Norse. After that I was hooked and started looking into the gods of the Native Americans, Inuit, Mayans, Incas and so on. That lead me back to the more recently developed followings of the Mormons and Scientology.

In the end I had learned so much of the rich history that religions have to offer, and came to the conclusion personally that no one really has a clue whats going on, and if there was a specific all powerful god out there, what a pansy to just not show up and clear all the confusion up.

I truly do believe everyone would get along better in today's world if religion had no influence. I will not try to convince anyone whom is religious in whatever sense that they are incorrect I just wish everyone open there mind to all the information out there and treat it all equally. Sadly most put on the blinders and ignore all but what pertains to there beliefs, or even worst they believe something and know a lot less then even I do about what they are telling me they believe in.

I find much more wonder in the world around us , and all that we can learn and see in this vast universe, and our short time to experience it, then what any religion has to offer.

Alas nothing I believe or you believe is going to matter in the end as we will all be dust , and go back to where ever we were before we came here, if we were anywhere at all. So lets all get along and enjoy this roller coaster of an experiences we get to all share in.

:peace:
 
Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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fucking christians, come onto an ANTI CHRISTIAN thread and push your fucki ng agenda. Mind your own business, stick to your own posts, I dunno, something about protdcting pedophile priests or something. You obviously were never wanted here. I blame the romans, there were originally only 12 of you guys, how hard could that have been.... Damned romans!
 
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Underthelight

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Filthy Phil said:
fucking christians, come onto an ANTI CHRISTIAN thread and push your fucki ng agenda. Mind your own business, stick to your own posts, I dunno, something about protdcting pedophile priests or something. You obviously were never wanted here. I blame the romans, there were originally only 12 of you guys, how hard could that have been.... Damned romans!
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Hope you didn't mean me as I am far, far from being a christian. That or you can't read?
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Filthy Phil said:
Hahaha, buddy, you have no idea what I have to bring to the table, its just not wroth the time it takes to blast another one of you out of the water by typing through my cellphone...trust me, I know your damn bible, cover to fucking cover. I also know the hiatory of christianity, the history of religion, the sociological a.d psychological aspects of it all... Yoh have no fucking idea, sitti.g across from a table with a panel of judges, like we do it in the intellectual debate world, I would rip you a new asshole so fucking big you.d look like a swarm of sharks just took you for dinner. You dont even know pal... I'm trying to be polite and somewhat diplomatic, its just aggrevating, its hard to have patience with the religious...
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So in short, you have nothing to bring to the table. Do you know what I find aggregating? I find it aggravating when someone claims they are so intelligent when they don't know how to spell basic words nor can have a mature debate. You should rethink about your debating skills and try to improve them alot before you go off typing misspelled words like a dumbass who claims to have intellectual debates.
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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Filthy Phil said:
fucking christians, come onto an ANTI CHRISTIAN thread and push your fucki ng agenda. Mind your own business, stick to your own posts, I dunno, something about protdcting pedophile priests or something. You obviously were never wanted here. I blame the romans, there were originally only 12 of you guys, how hard could that have been.... Damned romans!
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Ha look how pissed he gets, that's hilarious.
 
Luger187

Luger187

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let the battle commence!

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Filthy Phil

Filthy Phil

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Underthelight said:
I did not realize how heated the discussion was, I was raised Roman Catholic so I studied the Bible (Old and New Testament ) exclusively until I was older , I know it quite well, and must say I never questioned a thing at first.Later in life I started learning about what occurred through history in the name of my specific form of Christianity and began to have deep questions no one could/would answer for me, like whom combined the Bible in it's current form and why, what was lost in the original translations, why some of the gospels were left out, why so many had to die in the crusades, why we share so many pagan holidays and traditions, why the protestants separated from the main church long ago, etc. I studied the other gospels next which showed quite a different view on things, at that time I decided to read the Qur'an, it just lead me to have more questions on how this all came about, next was the religion of the Egyptians and how that was constantly evolving , then the older European gods of the Greeks, Romans, and Norse. After that I was hooked and started looking into the gods of the Native Americans, Inuit, Mayans, Incas and so on. That lead me back to the more recently developed followings of the Mormons and Scientology.

In the end I had learned so much of the rich history that religions have to offer, and came to the conclusion personally that no one really has a clue whats going on, and if there was a specific all powerful god out there, what a pansy to just not show up and clear all the confusion up.

I truly do believe everyone would get along better in today's world if religion had no influence. I will not try to convince anyone whom is religious in whatever sense that they are incorrect I just wish everyone open there mind to all the information out there and treat it all equally. Sadly most put on the blinders and ignore all but what pertains to there beliefs, or even worst they believe something and know a lot less then even I do about what they are telling me they believe in.

I find much more wonder in the world around us , and all that we can learn and see in this vast universe, and our short time to experience it, then what any religion has to offer.

Alas nothing I believe or you believe is going to matter in the end as we will all be dust , and go back to where ever we were before we came here, if we were anywhere at all. So lets all get along and enjoy this roller coaster of an experiences we get to all share in.

:peace:
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Underthelight said:
Hope you didn't mean me as I am far, far from being a christian. That or you can't read?
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No, of course I didnt mean you, I thought what you had to say was insightful. After I posted I saw your post...sorry bout that.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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Typical ignorance on a mass scale with these atheists.


Its funny how they always give us shit about deflecting and what not, i believe i have owned them and they have nothing to say. All they do is say their stupid lil "oly says the darndest things" queer verse.

Typical and expected of these low lifes




Hepheastus420 said:
I'm surprised they had nothing to say to that. I guess they jut don't wish to face the unfortunate truth.
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