How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

AlabamaRedneck

AlabamaRedneck

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OldGrowth420 said:
Here's what you need to understand. When you've seen what I've seen, and heard what I've heard, you can't be quiet about it. If you just knew who i was, how much filth I've been in, and if you had any idea what God has forgiven me of, and how much he's transformed me from an angry, bitter, unfaithful, lying person into, by His grace only, a man of God, then you'd realize that I have to talk about this God, this Jesus, this love that has radically changed my life.

To ask me to remain silent about the most important part of my life- Why, you might as well ask the sun to stop shining, the rain to stop falling or the flowers to stop blooming. As long as there is breath in my body, nothing will stop me from talking about the Jesus who saved me and made me new.

-Craig Groeshchel
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Well, you and I are two ships passing in the night.

I grew up a "religious fanatic", and have since become a "doubter of god". I respect your opinion, but I no longer share it. I am a serious doubter. And for GREAT reasons, I believe.

Stick with your convictions. I highly respect your opinion and boldness to state it and defend it. Even if I disagree with it. You go man. You go.
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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AlabamaRedneck said:
Well, you and I are two ships passing in the night.

I grew up a "religious fanatic", and have since become a "doubter of god". I respect your opinion, but I no longer share it. I am a serious doubter. And for GREAT reasons, I believe.

Stick with your convictions. I highly respect your opinion and boldness to state it and defend it. Even if I disagree with it. You go man. You go.
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Now that you have expressed your doubt of his dogma, I fear he is now going to throw a shit-ton of scripture at you. Prepare yourself, it gets tiresome...
 
AlabamaRedneck

AlabamaRedneck

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tyler.durden said:
Now that you have expressed your doubt of his dogma, I fear he is now going to throw a shit-ton of scripture at you. Prepare yourself, it gets tiresome...
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OK, maybe I made a mistake...bracing myself here...since tomorrow is Sunday...wish me luck in putting up with scripture...
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

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Once you realize we are already in hell, that you are already in hell, only then can you start to take the gradual steps toward the light, to climb to teetering stairs of hell towards salvation.

;)

but be careful along the way, because the closer you get, the more the devil attempts to waver you from enlightenment.

Infinity surely exists, you are living it over and over again right now, given the illusion you are not in hell, forgetting every time, given chance after chance.

Some guru's say, the biggest mistake you can ever make is to believe that you are alive... when in reality you are merely asleep in life's waiting room...

This is all a dream and god is waiting for us to wake up, this one moment to just wake up... and everyone of us puts up our hands and says "weeellll, not just yet, i don't think i'm done yet, give me a little more time" but there is only one time, only now, and all of us must make the decision, and we do. Every, Single, Time.

;) ;) ;)
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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OldGrowth420 said:
Not all prayers are God's will. I got drunk at the bar when i was underage, stepped onto the roof of a storm shelter, it opened up.. I fell in. Hit my back on a metal lip, now my pain reminds me not to do stupid stuff. I deserve it.

My prayers seemed to have helped my back pain immensely.
They certainly have helped repair my mind.
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That's crazy. I tweaked my back and my knee. I didn't pray at all and they feel a lot better now. Hmm.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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guy incognito said:
That's crazy. I tweaked my back and my knee. I didn't pray at all and they feel a lot better now. Hmm.
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And hmm! That guy with one arm who was a devout Christian all his life who prayed for another arm didn't get it either.. He told me "God said that by giving me another arm, it would dispel the requirement of faith! He not only gave me the answer I needed but he debunked the fallacy of "God can't heal amputees" all in one! Praise Jesus!"...

Tards gonna tard..
 
guy incognito

guy incognito

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Well I actually prayed that that guy would not get a new arm. Maybe god answered my prayer? Maybe god is as sick, twisted, and sadistic as me?
 
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Rastafari InI

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Ok I just like to say agnostic atheism

Seroiusly I don't get any of these people who worship a god, I just laugh and think how stupid.
Even if I was illogical enough to come to the conclusion a god exists I would still never think to worship a god. Especially that fucker from the bible he's a bloody sadist who stones children, kills all gays. the list is too long for all his fucked sense of morality.

Relgious idiots say ah well we might be wrong but athiests are wrong aswel they don't have evidence, this is hilarious as the default position is to not believe without evidence, you DON'T need evidence to not believe that is ludicrous.
Just like if I was to say there's an invisible dragon that no one else knows about that fits in my pocket and talks to me when no one is there, I Stated this therefore I have to state the evidence and if I don't then just like with god the default position is not to believe.

And surely if god is peacefull and all knowing he wouldn't send me to hell for not believing in him without evidence, and well there is NO evidence, I mean he created us ( I dont believe this ) and should know how our logical brains work and that it would be normal to come to a conclusion he doesn't exist. Please search AGNOSTIC ATHIESM if you don't alreadly know what is means. this is the default position of believe regarding god. I don't think that is a opinion

If I created someone with the ability to not belive in me, provided no evidence to belive in me, then send that person to hell if they didn't believe me I would definatly be a monster by my morality.

How many of you religious folks have a different religion from your parents, I can say not many your all just sheep. Did you even look at other religions to see if they make more sense or did you just say well this one suits me and I'll just do what everyone else is, fools the lot of you.

Also it's funny how if you believe in god your a thiest yet every other theory and belief is ATHIESM shows how's close minding theist are. Athiests can and do believe in thousands of different theories on how the universe is here.

So what would you rather be a thiest who believes with in a magical, omnipotent, all seeing god. Or a athiest who believes in every other theory possible and every single athiest I met doesn't claim to know how it the universe started but just deny the god theory unlike these ( all knowing ) thiests who all claim to know god exists without any evidence what so ever.

I don't claim to know how the universe started but just because I don't know doesn't mean I have to take wild guess and belive what sounds best ( all religious people ), default position is to not believe until proven.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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[video=youtube_share;AcO4TnrskE0]http://youtu.be/AcO4TnrskE0[/video]

"The true horror of religion is that it allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions what only lunatics could believe on their own.
If you believe that saying a few Latin words over your pancakes turns into the body of Elvis Presley you have lost your mind, but if you think more or less the same thing about a cracker and the body of Jesus you are just a catholic.
It is a very strange loving God who would make salvation depend on believing in him on that evidence." - Sam Harris
 
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Kervork

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"But they for whom I am the supreme goal, who do all work renouncing self for me and meditate on me with single-hearted devotion, these I will swiftly rescue from death's vast sea, for their consciousness has entered into me."
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Kervork said:
"But they for whom I am the supreme goal, who do all work renouncing self for me and meditate on me with single-hearted devotion, these I will swiftly rescue from death's vast sea, for their consciousness has entered into me."
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One mass delusion is no better than another. Hinduism is not excluded.
 
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Kervork

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Yeah, them delusional hindus believing in a universe billions of years old that exploded out of nothing in a multiverse trillions of years old.
 
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Rastafari InI

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Beefbisquit said:
[video=youtube_share;AcO4TnrskE0]http://youtu.be/AcO4TnrskE0[/video]

"The true horror of religion is that it allows perfectly decent and sane people to believe by the billions what only lunatics could believe on their own.
If you believe that saying a few Latin words over your pancakes turns into the body of Elvis Presley you have lost your mind, but if you think more or less the same thing about a cracker and the body of Jesus you are just a catholic.
It is a very strange loving God who would make salvation depend on believing in him on that evidence." - Sam Harris
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I love this quote, I really don't understand when you have these people that think sane and logically then whenever it comes to religion or god common sense, science, morality and rational and logical judgements and decision making is just thrown out the window. Crazy if you ask me.
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Kervork said:
Yeah, them delusional hindus believing in a universe billions of years old that exploded out of nothing in a multiverse trillions of years old.
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....and the world is actually on the back of a giant tortoise, which is also on the back of a giant elephant..... seems so plausible!​
 
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Kervork

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Show one reference of this in Hindu literature. You're just repeating crap which was ignorantly said about the Hindoos hundreds of years which has no basis in actual fact.
 
kpmarine

kpmarine

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Kervork said:
Show one reference of this in Hindu literature. You're just repeating crap which was ignorantly said about the Hindoos hundreds of years which has no basis in actual fact.
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Hinduism teaches that our planet was created by a god that popped out of a lotus flower in vishnu's belly button. It also teaches that the universe becomes a giant lake when it is destroyed, which vishnu floats in while riding a giant snake; until brahma pops out of his belly-button, of course. Face it, it's just as ridiculous as the rest of the religions.
 
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