Hot Shot No Pest Strips. Do They Kill Spidermite Eggs Too?

R.Raider

R.Raider

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Ok so after battling spidermites the last 3-4 years or so I've finally decided to shut down shop and try to tackle these fuckers properly. I've sprayed down my entire grow room and all equipment with hot water and bleach. I've sprayed down the few plants that I still have in veg with Forbid 4f. I've heard several people claiming to have success with the Hot Shot No Pest Strips but want to know if those kill the spidermite eggs too? At this point since I've shut everything down just to tackle these fuckers so I want to make I'm not leaving any stones unturned. If another 3-6 months down the road I see mites again I'm going to fuckin snap and burn my house down lol.
 
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R.Raider

R.Raider

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budlover13 said:
I have a lighter.

If no plants or humans or pets will be in there, bomb the shit out of it.
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By "bomb" do you mean pyrethrum bomb? Done that many times already. That doesn't kill the eggs though so a few months down the road you see the same cycle...but if by bomb you mean C-4 or something let me know where I can find some and hand me that lighter :fire:.
 
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DST

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Spider mites tend to travel on wind currents, dry air preferred. Down in Spain there are wind currents that blow up from the North African desserts and they always carry Spider Mites (we got them at our place down ther this year). Have you got a filter on the intake for your room? Have you checked plants outside your home for potential Spider Mite homes (e.g I had an Oleander that seemed to be HQ for Spider mites at one point). If you are fighting this for years, I would recommend looking at factors outsdie your grow room as well. I use a wash when I have them that is garlic based (Dutch product called Spray and Grow). It's not an insecticide either.
Good luck, Spider Mites suck.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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R.Raider said:
By "bomb" do you mean pyrethrum bomb? Done that many times already. That doesn't kill the eggs though so a few months down the road you see the same cycle...but if by bomb you mean C-4 or something let me know where I can find some and hand me that lighter :fire:.
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I was thinking more along the lines of siphotrol.
 
vostok

vostok

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Hot Shot will do more damage to you than the bugs

Dichlorvos, is a no shit weapon, it will kill your bugs

but then you smoke that shit and expect to have kids one day

Dude... go Neem Oil..

see this as a helpful advisement

Since it is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor,
symptoms of dichlorvos exposure include weakness, headache,
tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea,
vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, eye and skin irritation,
miosis (pupil constriction), eye pain, runny nose, wheezing,
laryngospasm, cyanosis, anorexia, muscle fasciculation
, paralysis, dizziness, ataxia, convulsions, hypotension
(low blood pressure), and cardiac arrhythmias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichlorvos
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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vostok said:

Hot Shot will do more damage to you than the bugs

Dichlorvos, is a no shit weapon, it will kill your bugs

but then you smoke that shit and expect to have kids one day

Dude... go Neem Oil..

see this as a helpful advisement

Since it is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor,
symptoms of dichlorvos exposure include weakness, headache,
tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea,
vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, eye and skin irritation,
miosis (pupil constriction), eye pain, runny nose, wheezing,
laryngospasm, cyanosis, anorexia, muscle fasciculation
, paralysis, dizziness, ataxia, convulsions, hypotension
(low blood pressure), and cardiac arrhythmias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichlorvos
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I don't have plants in flower though. I specifically shut things down just to tackle these fuckers.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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DST said:
Spider mites tend to travel on wind currents, dry air preferred. Down in Spain there are wind currents that blow up from the North African desserts and they always carry Spider Mites (we got them at our place down ther this year). Have you got a filter on the intake for your room? Have you checked plants outside your home for potential Spider Mite homes (e.g I had an Oleander that seemed to be HQ for Spider mites at one point). If you are fighting this for years, I would recommend looking at factors outsdie your grow room as well. I use a wash when I have them that is garlic based (Dutch product called Spray and Grow). It's not an insecticide either.
Good luck, Spider Mites suck.
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I've been fighting this for a few years mostly because I haven't made the proper efforts that I'm trying to do now. Was just buying myself time up till now.
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
Clear ALL plants out but leave your gear (lights, fans, tables/stands, etc) in your room. Bomb it, per directions. Next day, bomb it again. Wait a week, bomb it again.

THEN pull your gear and wash EVERYTHING with soap, water, and bleach. Vacuum everything in your room, carpet, walls, baseboards, windows and coverings, etc. Wash that stuff with bleach and warm soapy water.

THEN, use neem everywhere.

If that don't work, I will mail you the lighter.

Just remember, spider mites will travel on you from outside when you enter the room.
 
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hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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R.Raider said:
Ok so after battling spidermites the last 3-4 years or so I've finally decided to shut down shop and try to tackle these fuckers properly. I've sprayed down my entire grow room and all equipment with hot water and bleach. I've sprayed down the few plants that I still have in veg with Forbid 4f. I've heard several people claiming to have success with the Hot Shot No Pest Strips but want to know if those kill the spidermite eggs too? At this point since I've shut everything down just to tackle these fuckers so I want to make I'm not leaving any stones unturned. If another 3-6 months down the road I see mites again I'm going to fuckin snap and burn my house down lol.
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Nothing kills eggs. But let the little fuckers hatch and they are dead.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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hotrodharley said:
Nothing kills eggs. But let the little fuckers hatch and they are dead.
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Forbid does. But the good part is it lasts long enough in the plant to get any that might have been missed and hatch.

I also strongly AGREE on filtering the incoming air!!!!
If in your house and in a separate room and you don't use the cold air return and heating vent for heating and cooling the grow = SEAL THEM OFF!
Use some sort of door seal on the floor gap!
Make a point of not going into your grow after working outdoors on anything!
Do not bring in folks for a tour (should be this way anyway) or allow animals in the area!
Simple rule of watering after your mourning shower is a good way to ensure your not carrying them in on you or your clothes.

Bombing the whole home can help and be SURE to treat ANY house plants you have too!
I've been told before that Neem sprayed around the windows and doors helps repel them...

Doc
 
MetalHead75

MetalHead75

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An alternation of Avid & Floromite are what I used to help take care of my nasty bug problem last winter. One application of Avid to my vegging plants actually seemed to do the trick, but once the month on that was up I hit them with an application of Floromite for good measure before putting them into flower. I usually try to stay organic but damn, those buggers were nasty and I just couldn't stay persistent enough to get them all with homemade sprays at the time. Since then however, I've stayed much more adamant on preventative maintenance with natural oil based sprays and have not had a problem at all. Garlic, neem, and lavender are ones I alternate with.
 
Diabolical666

Diabolical666

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Id just do weekly pest maintenance till I didnt see any signs for months. switch up your pesticides between sprays becuase they get resistance , then they pass on the resistance to the next gen. I hope you doused the shit out of your grow with the forbid as well. They hide and can lay dormant in/on wood, in any insulation etc. Learn the life cycle, reproduction of, and effective pesticides per how bad you have them.
 
R.Raider

R.Raider

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Diabolical666 said:
Id just do weekly pest maintenance till I didnt see any signs for months. switch up your pesticides between sprays becuase they get resistance , then they pass on the resistance to the next gen. I hope you doused the shit out of your grow with the forbid as well. They hide and can lay dormant in/on wood, in any insulation etc. Learn the life cycle, reproduction of, and effective pesticides per how bad you have them.
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I sprayed the plants with the forbid but doused the shit out of the grow room and equipment with hot water and bleach.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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R.Raider said:
I sprayed the plants with the forbid but doused the shit out of the grow room and equipment with hot water and bleach.
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Spider mites dont like to leave. You can fight them all you want, theyll come back. But im sure you already know that. Have you tried to just control them instead of try and eliminate them? Cause since theyll never leave the only alternative is keeping the numbers down cheaply right? Have you tried lady bugs? Theyre cheap and theyre killers. No shit man, its not a trailerpark boys joke. They really work. But hydro stores wont sell them because they dont make the money off of them. Its ten bucks for 1500 of em and thatll last in a 4x4x8 grow for a month for ten bucks. Do the math. Nukem on the otherhand is like 50 bucks a quart ;)

Oh ya, and cover your air holes with screen or fill em with foam.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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vostok said:

Hot Shot will do more damage to you than the bugs

Dichlorvos, is a no shit weapon, it will kill your bugs

but then you smoke that shit and expect to have kids one day

Dude... go Neem Oil..

see this as a helpful advisement

Since it is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor,
symptoms of dichlorvos exposure include weakness, headache,
tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea,
vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal cramps, eye and skin irritation,
miosis (pupil constriction), eye pain, runny nose, wheezing,
laryngospasm, cyanosis, anorexia, muscle fasciculation
, paralysis, dizziness, ataxia, convulsions, hypotension
(low blood pressure), and cardiac arrhythmias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichlorvos
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There's much more to it than that though, man, it's destroyed by oxygen and light and is rendered inert in hours, they use it in fleacollars, for gods sake... it's not nearly as toxic as miticides.
All those symptoms you list are extreme exposure, well beyond the limits of what anything commercial provides, especially the hot shots.
Point is simply this, NOTHING "safe: will fully control/combat mites, they laugh at neem, or at least mine do.
not to mention the solid particulates that smoking neem oil would do...
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Dr. Who said:
Forbid does. But the good part is it lasts long enough in the plant to get any that might have been missed and hatch.

I also strongly AGREE on filtering the incoming air!!!!
If in your house and in a separate room and you don't use the cold air return and heating vent for heating and cooling the grow = SEAL THEM OFF!
Use some sort of door seal on the floor gap!
Make a point of not going into your grow after working outdoors on anything!
Do not bring in folks for a tour (should be this way anyway) or allow animals in the area!
Simple rule of watering after your mourning shower is a good way to ensure your not carrying them in on you or your clothes.

Bombing the whole home can help and be SURE to treat ANY house plants you have too!
I've been told before that Neem sprayed around the windows and doors helps repel them...

Doc
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Spider mites natural haunts are next to roads. Especially dusty areas.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Alienwidow said:
Spider mites dont like to leave. You can fight them all you want, theyll come back. But im sure you already know that. Have you tried to just control them instead of try and eliminate them? Cause since theyll never leave the only alternative is keeping the numbers down cheaply right? Have you tried lady bugs? Theyre cheap and theyre killers. No shit man, its not a trailerpark boys joke. They really work. But hydro stores wont sell them because they dont make the money off of them. Its ten bucks for 1500 of em and thatll last in a 4x4x8 grow for a month for ten bucks. Do the math. Nukem on the otherhand is like 50 bucks a quart ;)

Oh ya, and cover your air holes with screen or fill em with foam.
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if you have luck controlling mites with ladybugs, you'd be the first.
I mean this with the utmost respect, I just have NEVER seen ladybugs good for anything... unless your goal is to fill your light-hood with dead bugs.. those things are dumb as hell
 
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