Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by jayjay777, Apr 6, 2018.


    jayjay777 Well-Known Member

    I've been growing for close to 5 years now. I tend to get about 20-24 oz per light and I'm not exactly trying my hardest. But I have tried very hard in past. Only time Ive gotten to 2 lbs per light is by putting 50 clones on a flood table.


    I remember when I was younger I used to lift weights, I was fairly built, but not like the one guy I knew. Well long story short I wanted to try steroids to see the results. I bought everything I needed that do so. Although I look back and I am ashamed, it was pretty cool. I wasn't just 50% stronger but I didn't tire easily, ever.


    I understand a plants a totally different biology and would need different chemicals from us. Also who wants to consume those chemicals? Not me...

    But can it be done?

    What's out there?

    Just curious...
    Btw I ran test prop and then ace. Followed by clomid and something else.

    jayjay777 Well-Known Member

    I was also told super thrive which I no longer use, contains auxin. One of the five common hormones.


    NaturalFarmer Well-Known Member

    Probably more in depth for most but by far the most extensive link I have found on the subject.
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    chiqifella Well-Known Member

    after you use hormones on your plants, you'll look back and be embarrassed. Your plants will be 50% stronger but
    they won't stone you any better, ever

    NaturalFarmer Well-Known Member

    I use kelp which is known for having high amounts of cytokines but that isn't the only reason I use it at all.

    If you wanted to take it a step further than just using kelp you could check out this product which has concentrated the cytokine from the kelp but it is expensive. Other products have similar claims.


    jayjay777 Well-Known Member

    Well pgr was an unfamiliar word to me last week. Now I know most of the basic info on them. Doesn't sound too good. Anyone use hulk or cyco?

    I get huge buds. There just not dense. There ripe, under new 1k bulbs, denser but not like everyone elses.

    I thought it could be the batwings but I really doubt it.

    My volume is on par, just no density. I lollipop, train, blah blah...

    Any helpful advice is much appreciated.

    chiqifella Well-Known Member

    temps, rh, air flow, exchange, c02, watering habits, fertilizers...for starters.
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    NaturalFarmer Well-Known Member

    Are these all from seed? Some strains/phenos end up being duds regardless of the packaging claims.

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Kelp is a double-edged sword. Use it too often and it will limit vertical growth and reduce chloroplasts.
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    stoned-monkey Well-Known Member

    still learning this stuff myself but kelp and alfalfa seem to be the way go for natural growth enhancement. also corn sprouted seed tea has cytokines.
    kelp= cytokinin
    alfalfa= triacontanol
    corn sst= cytokinins
    coconut water= auxin, cytokinin, gibberellins
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    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    So you were a steroid monkey and want to grow steroid monkey plants eh.

    You were ashamed about what you did to your body but fine doing it to grow more pot?

    Thank Jah I'll never have to smoke the crap you want to grow.

    'Roid monkeys are crap people.

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    I'll admit that I played around years ago with a bunch of things just out of curiosity. I'm not ashamed. I'm a very curious person and I just had to play around to see what would happen. Some of the results were extremely crazy. If you want to turn a cannabis plant into a tall spindly beanstalk that grows several inches in a day spray it with some strong solution of gibberelic acid. I wish I had taken pictures but this was before smartphones with camera's in your pocket 24/7. I haven't played with the stuff for years. I did recently buy some gibberelic acid for an experiment I'm going to do in the vegetable garden though. I have experimented with many of the PGR's and other substances. I've thrown in the towel on that. Now all I give my plants are the 16 elements they need.

    I haven't experimented with everything on this list but it's all available from sellers on ebay. I'm done with experimenting but knock yourself out.

    Gibberelic Acid
    Indole Butyric Acid
    Chlormequat Chloride
    Chitosan Oligosaccharide
    Kinetin 6-furfurylaminopurine
    Naphthaleneacetic acid

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    GreenHighlander Well-Known Member

    I had a buddy growing up who planted estrogen patches in his soil thinking it would increase the female numbers lol

    Cheers :)
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    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I tried those patches to grow my own titties to play with but just got bitchy for a week every month. ;)


    GreenHighlander Well-Known Member

    Holy fuck that just killed me hahahahahahahaha

    Cheers :)
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