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CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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Thanks for the heads up. I'm ok with multiple daily waterings, I wanted to do my best to not outgrow my space, so I don't mind a bit of extra work along the way.
You want be disappointed in your yield. Seems to me when i flower that small they can barely fill up a three gallon with the root mass. Maybe it is just my set up that makes it seem that way. That 1 gal rad looks almost like a 2 gal smart pot. I think i will try the 3 gallon on my next run just so i don't have to irrigate as often. Radicle does not make a 2 gallon unfortunately. I don't rely mean to contradict what Honest was saying about the pot size . I am just stating what works for me. These bags are very cool. Never had a problem with water coming out the side of the pot.
 

socaljoe

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You want be disappointed in your yield. Seems to me when i flower that small they can barely fill up a three gallon with the root mass. Maybe it is just my set up that makes it seem that way. That 1 gal rad looks almost like a 2 gal smart pot. I think i will try the 3 gallon on my next run just so i don't have to irrigate as often. Radicle does not make a 2 gallon unfortunately. I don't rely mean to contradict what Honest was saying about the pot size . I am just stating what works for me. These bags are very cool. Never had a problem with water coming out the side of the pot.
I totally get the relationship between pot size, root mass and final yield. The importance really shows growing outdoor, which is what I've been doing until this indoor run. I wanted to go with 2 gallon radicle bags myself (too bad they don't exist), I'll see what happens with this run and reevaluate if I need/want to step up to 3 gals next time . This run is all about learning indoor growing for me, so I'll figure out quickly what works and what doesn't...so far, it's going alright.
 
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CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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I totally get the relationship between pot size, root mass and final yield. The importance really shows growing outdoor, which is what I've been doing until this indoor run. I wanted to go with 2 gallon radicle bags myself (too bad they don't exist), I'll see what happens with this run and reevaluate if I need/want to step up to 3 gals time. This run is all about learning indoor growing for me, so I'll figure out quickly what works and what doesn't...so far, it's going alright.
Can't imagine you would have any trouble. I have seen those monsters you grow outside! If you want PM me with any questions i MIGHT be able to help with any indoor questions. You never know i might have made that mistake already.lol
 

socaljoe

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Can't imagine you would have any trouble. I have seen those monsters you grow outside! If you want PM me with any questions i MIGHT be able to help with any indoor questions. You never know i might have made that mistake already.lol
Thanks for the offer, I'll be happy to take you up on that if I hit a wall or need guidance. Mistakes are the single most important learning tool in my experience, as long as you recognize them and learn.

I was so unprepared for how my outdoor plants were going to grow in coco this last seasons, several mistakes were made that won't be repeated.
 

CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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Thanks for the offer, I'll be happy to take you up on that if I hit a wall or need guidance. Mistakes are the single most important learning tool in my experience, as long as you recognize them and learn.

I was so unprepared for how my outdoor plants were going to grow in coco this last seasons, several mistakes were made that won't be repeated.
I have been growing indoors now for 5 years. I will say this since i stumbled onto RIU thru greenpoint seeds around a year ago. I have learned more in one year from some of the fantastic growers on here than i have in all the other years combined. Only had the internet to learn from and while there is a wealth of info out there,. There is also a lot of BAD info out there as well.
 

socaljoe

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I have been growing indoors now for 5 years. I will say this since i stumbled onto RIU thru greenpoint seeds around a year ago. I have learned more in one year from some of the fantastic growers on here than i have in all the other years combined. Only had the internet to learn from and while there is a wealth of info out there,. There is also a lot of BAD info out there as well.
Exactly, and it can be hard to separate the wheat from the chaff sometimes. I tried (and failed) so many times with different methods, and the common denominator was me overthinking things and doing too much based on bad or misunderstood information. I've got plenty of room for improvement, I don't kid myself about that for a second, but getting back to basics and keeping things simple is what has set me on what appears to be a good path. Onward and upward. :mrgreen:
 

hybridcheef

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DO NOT ORDER FROM GLO SEED BANK. i ordered 3 times from them and things were slow but atleast i got my seeds, this last time though this mother fucker has some nerve to steal my credit card information. I literally bought a prepaid debit card because i heard the stories about this douche bag and decided to try it anyways thinking maybe it was all just gossip. come to find out this guy uses your card to buy playstation network shit. what a sleez, messaged him multiple times calling him out direct to his websites email and he never responds because he knows hes guilty. what kind of douche bag would give up a repeat customer so he can get them for $50? lol what a low life.
 

HonestGenetics420

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DO NOT ORDER FROM GLO SEED BANK. i ordered 3 times from them and things were slow but atleast i got my seeds, this last time though this mother fucker has some nerve to steal my credit card information. I literally bought a prepaid debit card because i heard the stories about this douche bag and decided to try it anyways thinking maybe it was all just gossip. come to find out this guy uses your card to buy playstation network shit. what a sleez, messaged him multiple times calling him out direct to his websites email and he never responds because he knows hes guilty. what kind of douche bag would give up a repeat customer so he can get them for $50? lol what a low life.
I feel it necessary to point out right now that when you use a credit card processor online that it’s all third party. The seller can’t see your credit card number and they pay fees on each transaction to use that service. So it’s actually impossible that he used your card number for anything, he would never have been able to see anything except the last four numbers. Anyways, that’s not really a post that belongs on this thread, I offer the direct option so that people can come straight to me when they want Honest Genetics. Sorry for your inconvenience, I would recommend you dispute the charge
 

jayblaze710

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I feel it necessary to point out right now that when you use a credit card processor online that it’s all third party. The seller can’t see your credit card number and they pay fees on each transaction to use that service. So it’s actually impossible that he used your card number for anything, he would never have been able to see anything except the last four numbers. Anyways, that’s not really a post that belongs on this thread, I offer the direct option so that people can come straight to me when they want Honest Genetics. Sorry for your inconvenience, I would recommend you dispute the charge
A seller can absolutely see and store your CC if they’ve set up their website to do so. In fact, the majority of ecommerce sites capture the CC info from the browser, and then send the data to the CC processor’s server.
 

HonestGenetics420

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Some photos of The Dessert at day 23 from the garden of Gilnetics. This strain packs on weight and resin from the get go. Typically they’re done at 9weeks flat in flower with amazing yields. This strain also washes for ice wax better than almost anything out there. They develop a wide range of dessert flavors which is why I named the strain The Dessert. An easy grower which makes her ideal for commercial and personal production alike, it has something for everyone but most importantly the consumers LOVE IT :)
 

socaljoe

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This is my rockstar. Oregon Orange Punch. She's responded terrifically to being topped at the second true node to achieve 4 mains Uncle Ben style. You can see my other OOP in the background is considerably smaller, she's growing super tightly stacked nodes, also topped at the second node. My 2 ScarJo are doing fine, a bit calcium deficiency was showing on the older of the two, I'm keeping an eye on her as I'm now using the new formulation of Mega Crop with more Cal and mag.

OOP

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growslut

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Up-potted 1 each Face Punch, BC, BP, and SJ into their final 20L homes. Stellar growth from all. Topped all the plants this week. Just the top node. @socaljoe I might have to give the 2nd node topping a try sometime in the future

Also noticed that the plants prefer the QB lighting to the blurple during veg. The QB side of the tent looks totally happy and thriving. The blurple side seems to be causing cal-mag deficiencies. Good news is that all the Honest seedlings have been on the blurple side

As soon as there's room plan to move the Honest gear to the other tent and start flower
 

HonestGenetics420

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Up-potted 1 each Face Punch, BC, BP, and SJ into their final 20L homes. Stellar growth from all. Topped all the plants this week. Just the top node. @socaljoe I might have to give the 2nd node topping a try sometime in the future
You can actually cut plants all the way in half on most of my current offerings as long as you haven’t cleaned up the lower growths yet. I actually recommend it. It seems counterproductive only on paper. In reality you vastly supercharge the growth by doing the toppings as low as possible. The reason for this is you create a situation where the roots are more established than the plant itself. Suddenly the flow of hormones pushes hard into the already established branches and the plant absolutely skyrockets in growth.
Certain genetics don’t like this strategy, but almost all my current genetic offerings will respond extremely well to it, I tend to breed with topping traits in mind.
So basically find a part of the plant midway on the plant that has good branching already, cut right above the last good looking branch(one with multiple nodes already). Then clean up the plant so it has 4-6 main branches. You will achieve a stronger anchored base by doing this as well, which will better support heavy flower weights later on.
The strategy can also be applied to each new top at a later point as well. If you want amazing yields this is a nice way to accomplish that goal. Topping near the top creates a little bit of lag by comparison and doesn’t anchor the plant as well.
Typically speaking I let my plants grow 12-18” and then cut them in half to make them into bushes rather than Christmas trees ;)
 
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socaljoe

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HonestGenetics420

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Day 24 The Dessert from the garden of Gilnetics, bred by me. All his phenos already look above average swollen and resinous for their age. This genetic line is very consistent for early onset of flowers and resin. He told me this particular pheno smells like a buttered up creamy cake batter with a hint of lemon. All the phenos tend to put on some form of Dessert terps, some even have a wonderful banana essence.
The Chocolate Frosting crosses are stellar for resin, terps, and yields. Very consumer and grower friendly as well :)
 

growslut

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You can actually cut plants all the way in half on most of my current offerings as long as you haven’t cleaned up the lower growths yet. I actually recommend it. It seems counterproductive only on paper. In reality you vastly supercharge the growth by doing the toppings as low as possible. The reason for this is you create a situation where the roots are more established than the plant itself. Suddenly the flow of hormones pushes hard into the already established branches and the plant absolutely skyrockets in growth.
Certain genetics don’t like this strategy, but almost all my current genetic offerings will respond extremely well to it, I tend to breed with topping traits in mind.
So basically find a part of the plant midway on the plant that has good branching already, cut right above the last good looking branch(one with multiple nodes already). Then clean up the plant so it has 4-6 main branches. You will achieve a stronger anchored base by doing this as well, which will better support heavy flower weights later on.
The strategy can also be applied to each new top at a later point as well. If you want amazing yields this is a nice way to accomplish that goal. Topping near the top creates a little bit of lag by comparison and doesn’t anchor the plant as well.
Typically speaking I let my plants grow 12-18” and then cut them in half to make them into bushes rather than Christmas trees ;)
Thanks for the pro-tip. Def going to give this a try

@socaljoe thanks for suggesting the thread and will check it out
 
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